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C16 Camp Xray: LondonLad how can you honestly make a comparison between badly treated staff and Greenpeace? And have you not checked how much dirty pollution by way of CO2 an oil company is responsible for? Or all the oil spills? Where the hell is the empathy? Good grief I'm relieved to be out of that snake pit. No doubt another HR or PR (or is it CX) person will write a reply protecting their masters!
LondonLad: Well "going out smoothly" it is indeed a "dirty job" at the coal face - it is also very dangerous. So I assume you are someone who has zero knowledge of the oil industry or its products?!?! Do you drive a car? do you ride a bicycle? do you fly to other countries? do you live in a house? do you own a pair of shoes? etc. etc. All of these and many many more things from our daily lives rely on the oil industry and their products. It is dick-heads like you and Greenpeace who have virtually no idea about the oil industry. Why even John Donovan made a fortune out of working with the oil industry until he fell out with Shell. Oh it's great to be back and being able to comment on some idiot comments.
going out smoothly...: you guys are all crazy. its just a dirty job with a dirty company. Make your money and move on... treat them like they treat you - what have you done for me lately.
Contractor: Academics have been stating over the last 30 years about the need to change careers 3 times in your lifetime. With respect to Oil, this is potentially twice. 1988 and 2014. Staff are pretty much the same as contractors these days; difference being that contractors carry most of the workload.
Relieved: Read the article about energy storage revolution. This will drive a stake in the heart of the US coal industry, except for certain used and export, and it will drive natural gas prices into the ground. It will also prove a boon to hybrid vehicle technology, which will help cap the demand for liquid hydrocarbons for motor fuel. Looks like the days of expensive oil maybe gone forever.
Dutchdude: Amused Non Expat - A bit surprised at your rationale. Because you perceive expats to be overpayed, it is ok for Shell HR to impose a new HYPOtax? Get the wording, this is not a tax, it does not go to a government, will not go to funds to build schools, housing, healthcare. No this hypotax goes to Shell general funds (who knows to pay the high dividends). I have been on both local and expat side, and agree Shell has been a good employer as a whole, I just have issues with unscrupulous HR staff who trod decency so easily. I know numerous staff who have been send to a location with certain promises, only to find out the reality is much less. If you work in HR, please do some self reflection on who in Shell actually earns your sandwich for you... Sadly I do agree with Shareholder, that it appears this time around the smart people are cashing in on Shell, signs all around that the ship is aiming for big rocks.
totallyhackedoff: To Amused non expat- am thinking you might know how much the redundancy payments are in cash terms to be able to comment....are you in HR? (probably has a high CEP and a Shell tattoo somewhere on your behind). Last time I checked, this is a forum for people to speak openly about ALL and ANY issues relating to Shell, whining or otherwise. Consider it cathartic for people to get it off their chest, and be included in conversation that creates a bit of camarardarie, lest it happen in the corridors of Shell.
Amused non Expat: Not gloating at all, nor envious so nothing to let go. Just pointing out reality which appears to have been overlooked by some folks. To the best of my knowledge I cannot recall anyone committing suicide over a redundancy but I may be wrong.
Learning: To amused non expat.. Envy of your fellow expats will eat away at you. Let it go. And i advise you to not gloat at those about to lose their jobs (expat or not). People have been known to commit suicide over such life changing moments. A bit of dignity please.
Amused non Expat: "Expat Staff" were you so innocent as to believe Shell promised you job for life. If Shell has really given you promises in contractual terms then you re very lucky. I did disagree however that you would have been better off as a contractor, whose life and work is always at the will of the employing company and can be changed at a moments notice. Expats were immune from that exposure and you should be grateful for that. As for Shell only having the "people who can't cut it in the real life" to imply that is a totally ridiculous statement and belittles the many of us left. I would suggest it is the expat who doesn't know what the 'real life' is all about and is just finding out.
Expat Staff: I have worked for shell in over 12 international posting over my time. At present i am on garden leave waiting for the redundancy paper work, and have been told that i will not have any real option of securing a position in my home country. When i left on expat conditions some 27 years ago, there were lots of promises, and even more conditions expressed in contracts / agreements. One central theme to this is that the company would have my back and ensure that i would have a job when i came home. Part of the carrot associated with the sacrifice. Now, its just a numbers game. Tax equalization agreements in my contracts covered taxes while in overseas locations. I agree that the current approach could be considered fair and just, but not when the terms and conditions and HR staff always stated i would always have a job at home after my many years of service in remote locations. Anyone who worked in Nigeria, Oman, Brunei, Malaysia, Thailand, China for long periods of time much of it away from friends and family will understand. We have been shafted. It would have been better to be a contractor for hire over this period, as they have had been able to just walk away from assignments, work for Exxon or BP for a stint and come back to packages often better than staff. With the expectation that staff will be protected, contractors are just hire and fire. Heaven forbid you or a family member get sick... How many cancer deaths have left the families with extremely difficult repatriation, and much smaller sums than promised? I for one will now go back to being a contractor, lots of our suppliers and service companies will be paying top money when the pendulum swings, and shell will have only the people who can not cut in the real world left.
Amused non expat: I find it amusing that we have highly (over) paid Expats now whining about having to pay tax on what will be considerable redundancy payments. This whole entitlement/greed attitude is one of the problems which has got Shell into this overstaffing situation. Just remember that a lot of the redundancy payments are WELL in excess of statutory minimums and are ex gratis payments and can be taken away at a moments notice. This whole expat 'entitlement' attitude is sickening and people should look in the mirror sometimes. Most of you have had a good ride on the gravy train but the train is about to hit the buffers. Time to step off and walk away.