Comments on: Shell Blog http://royaldutchshellplc.com News and information on Royal Dutch Shell Plc. Tue, 15 Apr 2014 19:32:55 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.8.3 By: shellwaarbenjijnu http://royaldutchshellplc.com/wp-wall-guestbook/#comment-901007 Tue, 15 Apr 2014 19:32:55 +0000 http://royaldutchshellplc.com/?page_id=16226#comment-901007 @Deltaic – don’t wish to be overly “pickey” but I thought the discussion was around the safe functioning of the Bintulu GTL (pilot) plant. Train #9 refers to yet another addition to the LNG plant the functionality and safety of which was not under discussion.

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By: Deltaic http://royaldutchshellplc.com/wp-wall-guestbook/#comment-900840 Tue, 15 Apr 2014 15:28:57 +0000 http://royaldutchshellplc.com/?page_id=16226#comment-900840 Good job that those with real knowledge about projects kept going with aviation development (despite crashes and deaths) else we would be in some trouble wouldn’t we!! Guess you don’t fly Outsider. Still agree with LL as the Bintulu project has been a success despite some early problems and hence train 9 being built.

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By: Outsider http://royaldutchshellplc.com/wp-wall-guestbook/#comment-900060 Mon, 14 Apr 2014 21:09:53 +0000 http://royaldutchshellplc.com/?page_id=16226#comment-900060 I am amazed to hear yet again that a project which resulted in an explosion and fire and the destruction of hundreds of millions of dollars that had been spent on its construction is a “success” – how are we supposed to take these people seriously? According to their logic, if Prelude blows up, but later designs of FLNG plant do not, then Prelude was a success? Trial and error is not normally the design approach used for multi-billion dollar projects.

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By: Deltaic http://royaldutchshellplc.com/wp-wall-guestbook/#comment-899948 Mon, 14 Apr 2014 18:24:01 +0000 http://royaldutchshellplc.com/?page_id=16226#comment-899948 Releived and Outsider really have no knowledge of what Shell is doing or has done regarding the building and addressing of safety issues with Prelude. All that comes across to me is a couple of people who have no idea of the project but merely guess incorrectly. Either way the project goes ahead and the moaners carry on wasting their time. Having been involved with Bintulu I have to agree with London Lad and say that it has in the end been an excellent project for all concerned.

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By: Outsider http://royaldutchshellplc.com/wp-wall-guestbook/#comment-899592 Mon, 14 Apr 2014 09:32:22 +0000 http://royaldutchshellplc.com/?page_id=16226#comment-899592 LondonLad: you answer your own question quite admirably: I believe that there are lots of advantages to new technology which should be exploited to the extent possible. However, with all new technologies there is also a risk that something has been overlooked, the consequences of which may be catastrophic – as with the effects of the smoke from forest fires on the Bintulu GTL plant. Nobody actually knows what is going to happen to Prelude when it gets hit by a cyclone, but there will be green water going across the decks and through the process facilities with enormous force.



John



It may be interesting for your readers to know that the process used at Pearl and Bintulu is the “Fischer-Tropsch Process” developed in Germany in the 1920s due to a shortage of petroleum resources and taking advantage of an abundance of coal (see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fischer%E2%80%93Tropsch_process ). It was further developed by Sasol in South Africa during the 1970s to address the shortage of oil caused by the oil embargo.



LondonLad refers to the “Fischer-Tropsch” process as SMDS (Shell Middle Distillate Synthesis) and implies that it is something newly developed by Shell. It is neither new nor was it developed by Shell. The technology was proven 75 years before Bintulu exploded, and similar plants have been in operation in South Africa since the 1970s. The only difference was that the South African plants did not have to contend with smoke from forest fires.

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