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MUSAINT : Yes, I do deny that I have asked for deletion of Guest 6519's posting (albeit that the idiot Twaddle Master 6519 made little sense yet again). And yes you cannot show that I have requested its deletion. I have asked for this evidence on 3 occassions and all 3 times you divert my question.

John Donovan : MUSAINT, other visitors can read the exchanges and draw their own conclusions. I note that you do not deny that you would like to see this site deleted?

MUSAINT : I repeat Mr. D show me where I asked for the deletion of Guest 6519's posting. You cannot and therefore this shows that you wish to mask the fact with a lengthy posting yourself making many unfounded accusations. This doesn't show this website up in very good light. You're starting to waffle like Guest 2340.

guest_7187 : Typo Take no offense

guest_7879 : Musaint, Which one in the CONTROVERSIES SURROUNDING ROYAL DUTCH SHELL IN WIKIPEDIA do you want to discuss? If not then that no offense. They must be true and not twaddle.

John Donovan : P1. MUSAINT you tried to use the fact that I had deleted an over the top comment about you to suggest that I might delete a comment posted by you. That was the clear implication. Although I intervened in your behalf, you used that against me. At least we have now flushed out the motive behind your 24/7 visits here under various guest guises over many months. You want the site to be deleted.

John Donovan : P2. At least we now know where you are coming from. By coincidence or otherwise your desire and your strenuous efforts over a long period are completely in line with the objectives of Shell and the team set up by Shell to combat this site. Those efforts will not succeed. We will be here for years to come building up our files on Shell and related matters. All will continue to be made available FREE to all interested parties.

MUSAINT : Mr. Donovan kindly point out in my correspondence where I stated that I objected to the deletion of the posting of Guest 6519. I'm afraid that this unfortunately shows that you do not read some of the postings very well. That said, it has to be said that Guest 6519 (aka 2340) is indeed a master of twaddle. Your website you can delete.

John Donovan : As MUSAINT apparently objects to the deletion of the posting by Guest 6519, I have reinstated it below.

John Donovan : Posting by Guest 6519: Musaint loves the big oil Shell A.K.A unloveable goddess. Mu Saint sought divine intervention, calling - where are you God? Are you deaf? Why so far away from me..bla bla bla. A soft voice was heard from afar. Musaint shouted Ã¢â‚¬â€œ donÃ¢â‚¬â„¢t you have a loudspeaker. Softly said, I am the unloveable goddess, if you want more money - make more crisis, more worries and you can get more money to satisfy your vanities. Let us all trade into a depression!

John Donovan : The Shell Foundation is one example of Shell's charitable good works. Unfortunately Shell execs could not resist the temptation to use the charity improperly for commercial benefit, as was revealed by the Guardian newspaper. MUSAINT by all means speak out for Shell. We will continue to promote adherence to Shell's business principles.

MUSAINT : PART 2 : around the globe. If people don't like my general defence of most of the attacks on them by some Guests on the website, tough.

MUSAINT : Whoops, I seem to have upset the Twaddle Master (Guest 3506 aka Guest 2340) - shame that!! I will (unless deleted by the owners of this website) continue to criticise those who unjustifiably or without a great deal of reason slag off Shell. I admit they have their faults, as we all do, but they also do a great deal of good around the world. It's a pity that PR people in Shell do a crap job at advertizing, for example, the amount of money donated to various charities, communities etc, around the

John Donovan : Accusations of making a personal attack are nonsense when the identity of the person being attacked is unknown. I am all for focusing attention on Shell rather than anonymous contributors to Live Chat.

guest_4023 : John, why don't we focus on Shell rather than other commentators? Whether or not they have chosen to identify themselves is hardly relevant.

John Donovan : Guest 4023 how is it possible for anyone to make a personal attack on an individual who has not revealed any personal details? As for the comments of 6519, they are inappropriate and have therefore been deleted.

guest_4023 : I don't agree with everything that Musaint says, any more than I support the small number of people in Shell implicated in the incompetence and unethical behaviour described on this site. However, I suspect that most readers are more interested in rational discussion than personal attacks.

guest_3506 : Musaint is a desperate person making generous contradictions. For example, detest Shell-defend Shell; Shell Best-Shell Bleat; Shell Profitable-Shell Pedigree; Shell Environmental Friendly-Shell Nigeria Friendly. Musiant you better make up your mind. You are a hypocrite. State your issue, one at a time. Go to the controversies of Shell and select a menu you object. Then we can have some civilized engagements. If you have no time, get lost!

John Donovan : P1. MUSAINT if you created a website focused on Exxon, you would not find anyway near the same vast catalogue of misdeeds as committed by Shell. In any event, I have no problem with you speaking up in defense of Shell. I will continue to point out any holes in your arguments and you are of course free to do the same with my assertions.

John Donovan : P2. Sometimes we will hopefully find common ground, as for example in relation to Shell's shabby treatment of Shell retirees compared to the riches heaped on incompetent executive directors, including scoundrels forced to resign e.g. Sir Phillip Watts.

John Donovan : P3. We expect Shell senior management to abide by Shells General Business Principles: honesty, integrity and openness in all of Shells dealings. We will continue to campaign accordingly. I note that you have not indicated whether you would like this website to close?

MUSAINT : PART 2 : merely likes to criticise because they hat big oil companies. Over to the moaning minnies for their bleat.

MUSAINT : I have better things to do than list Exxons list of litigations, fines, court cases, humanrights records etc. If I did then I would create a similar website as this. I'm afraid that I'll still defend Shell whenever I feel comments are biased and unwarrented or even completely wrong / exaggerated. As stated earlier by myself, I have personal reasons to dislike Shell, however, unlike many contributors I do not bleat on as a tree hugger or someone who merely likes to criticise because they hate b

John Donovan : Oil soars to record near $146 amid concerns over hefty drop in US stockpiles, Iran conflict...

John Donovan : Musaint you say that this site is totally biased against Shell. You are of course entitled to that opinion. Do you think the website serves any useful purpose or should it, in your view, cease to exist?

John Donovan : The person who made the comments in defence of Shell was ignorant of the facts.

John Donovan : MUSAINT, I have provided the evidence for all to see. Information added to Wikipedia has to be neutral and supported by verifiable evidence from reputable sources. Any information which does not meet that standard can be removed by any editor. I have supported my comments. Where is your evidence? There is none which matches the scale of misdeeds by Shell across its operations.

guest_7363 : Musaint: the Exxon Valdez fine has been all but eliminated by a recent Supreme Court decision, whereas the fines imposed on Shell for market abuse in Europe seem to increase by the day...

MUSAINT : PART 2 : to know if Shell has had such a single high fine. As for Twaddle Master 731 JH = John Huong for your info. I wait with baited breath for the flack from some of the muppets on this site for my defence of Guest 8427 who I still believe was incorrectly attacked by Mr.D.

MUSAINT : Well well well what a raft of correspondence I get back for trying to say that Mr. D. went over the top with his comments. I still think that he has and that Wikipedia can be false in some of it's statements (even they state that is possible). That said, this site is totally biased against Shell and will therefore go to great lengths to state so. Other majors have similar and wirse track records and I am not prepared to waste time listing them - Exxon Valdiz does spring to mind and I would like

John Donovan : THE WIKIPEDIA ARTICLES ON SHELL: If Musaint or anyone else can supply any index compilation of misdemeanours by any other business or organisation to rival Shell's dirty laundry list, please let me know and I will publish it.

John Donovan : If Guest 7087 compared the Wikipedia articles for each of the major oil giants they would not have made the statement about Shell being more honest than other majors. Shell has a track record of dishonesty, environmental pollution and unethical conduct without equal by any oil company or indeed any other major business on the planet.

guest_731 : Guest 8427 is Musaint the famous chameleon of various shades. Is JH =??? John Hancock???

guest_6204 : Musaint: I'm sure that Phil Watts would argue that he was the real victim of the reserves case - and that all of the shareholders were simply suing him because he was so wealthy after receiving his severance package

MUSAINT : In the same vein as my earlier comment, clearly Guest 8427 (maybe a certain Mr. J.H.??)misunderstands the point of Guest 7570. Namely ANY large company with a famous BRAND will suffer the problem of many people trying to sue them over anything & everything, in many cases for a hoped for quick buck.

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Canada, U.S. increasingly at odds over pollution issues

Posted on June 28, 2008 by John Donovan.
Categories: Canada, Environment, United States.

Other looming issues include:

• Shell Canada’s plans for a heavy-oil refinery near Sarnia that could produce 150,000 to 200,000 barrels per day of gasoline, diesel and jet fuel.

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Washington fines Shell refinery $110,000

Posted on June 26, 2008 by John Donovan.
Categories: Environment.

The Washington Department of Labor and Industries has cited the Shell refinery at Anacortes for 23 safety and health violations and proposed $110,000 in penalties.

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Exxon Valdez $2.5 bln oil spill ruling overturned

Posted on June 25, 2008 by John Donovan.
Categories: Alaska, Environment, Exxon Mobil, Thomson Reuters.

WASHINGTON, June 25 (Reuters) - The U.S. Supreme Court on Wednesday threw out the record $2.5 billion in punitive damages that Exxon Mobil Corp had been ordered to pay for the 1989 Exxon Valdez oil spill off Alaska, the nation’s worst tanker spill.

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Decision time for the planet

Posted on by John Donovan.
Categories: Climate Change, Environment, The Guardian.

As global coal use spirals, governments must decide whether to embrace a controversial new technology that some say is our only hope of tackling climate change

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Fiat criticised for CO2 ad claims

Posted on by John Donovan.
Categories: Environment, The Guardian.

Previously the ASA has censured companies such as Suzuki, Shell, Ryanair and Toyota for so-called “greenwash” where companies overstate their environmental credentials.

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Is the fuel crisis a blessing in disguise?

Posted on June 23, 2008 by John Donovan.
Categories: Climate Change, Environment, The Guardian.

It depends on your point of view, of course, but there is some evidence that the surge in oil prices is succeeding where green campaigners and government initiatives have not…

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Alcoa, Shell Want Climate Plan, Global Carbon Limits

Posted on June 20, 2008 by John Donovan.
Categories: Bloomberg, Climate Change, Environment.

June 20 (Bloomberg) — Alcoa Inc., Royal Dutch Shell Plc and 97 other companies are urging world leaders to devise a plan for fighting global warming by setting greenhouse-gas targets for all nations and creating an international carbon market.

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EPA permit brings Shell a step closer to drilling in Beaufort Sea

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Categories: CNNMoney.com, Environment.

The EPA permit allows Shell Offshore Inc., a subsidiary of Dutch-owned Royal Dutch Shell PLC, to release up to 245 tons of nitrogen oxides at each of its drilling sites in the Beaufort Sea.

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Sakhalin Whales Panel Faults Gas Venture

Posted on June 14, 2008 by John Donovan.
Categories: Dow Jones Newswires, Environment.

LONDON -(Dow Jones)- A scientific panel report released Friday revealed ongoing concerns that the Sakhalin-II oil and gas joint venture hasn’t complied with all of recommendations on the protection of the endangered Western Gray Whale.

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Shell extends assessment deadline on propose St, Clair Township refinery

Posted on June 9, 2008 by John Donovan.
Categories: Canada, Environment.

Project manager Amrik Ahluwalia notified local leaders Friday that the company would not meet its June 25 deadline, saying Shell has developed some breakthrough technology to reduce the refinery’s environmental footprint that the company wants to further explore.

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For the last 4 years, articles authored by Alfred and John Donovan which are published on this website, have been the subject of multiple High Court injunctions by EIGHT ROYAL DUTCH SHELL GROUP companies including Dutch and UK companies. The litigation involving Shell whistleblower Dr John Huong, remains in progress.

Due to bungling or deliberate misrepresentation and/or perjury by malicious Shell lawyers hell-bent on pursuing a vendetta, the shambolic proceedings were brought against the wrong defendant (Dr Huong) in the wrong legal jurisdiction in respect of the wrong website. Shell chose to sue in a a corrupt legal jurisdiction - Malaysia - where justice is on sale to the highest bidder.

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