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Correct me if I am wrong somebody, but I believe I read that RDS’s gross revenues are equivalent to about 85% of the Netherlands Gross Domestic Product. With that kind of cash flow I would say that RDS clearly has the Dutch government in their back pocket.
THIS POSTING BY Zik Gbemre WAS TO LARGE TO BE PUBLISHED ON THE SHELL BLOG, SO IT HAS BEEN PUBLISHED AS AN ARTICLE: OBJECTION TO MR. OSAGIE OKUNBOR AS MD/COUNTRY CHAIR OF SHELL (SPDC) NIGERIA
To LondonLad and USCitizen: Welcome back! This blog was getting a bit boring without you guys, even if you are hardcore RDS fans.
Geez – Shell’s public website on GTL clearly discusses the technology it is based on, no one is trying to muddy that water but John. The key is the more than 3500 patents Shell developed to make it commerically viable. It was proven to work 75 years before Bintulu in a lab, but not scalable, minor detail huh?? Shell and Sasol made that happen with hugh research investments. If it was off the shelf, many more folks would be building would they not?? Come on, engage the brain.
Shell MDS Technology and Process
Shell MDS technology is a modern version of the Fisher-Tropsch process which was invented back in 1920s. The Shell MDS process, however, uses a much more active and selective proprietary Shell catalyst, which enables the technology to be brought to full commercial operations.
It may be interesting for your readers to know that the process used at Pearl and Bintulu is the “Fischer-Tropsch Process” developed in Germany in the 1920s due to a shortage of petroleum resources and taking advantage of an abundance of coal (see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fischer%E2%80%93Tropsch_process ). It was further developed by Sasol in South Africa during the 1970s to address the shortage of oil caused by the oil embargo.
LondonLad refers to the “Fischer-Tropsch” process as SMDS (Shell Middle Distillate Synthesis) and implies that it is something newly developed by Shell. It is neither new nor was it developed by Shell. The technology was proven 75 years before Bintulu exploded, and similar plants have been in operation in South Africa since the 1970s. The only difference was that the South African plants did not have to contend with smoke from forest fires.
Why should Shell et al have to sue someone just to prove their innocence? Trouble is that there are too many people who believe in suing just to make a fast buck. (Nigerians in the Delta region spring to mind.) All I can say is that Shell does not appear to have done anything wrong (let’s face it the Irish drink at the drop a hat, so a little top up from Shell would not cause any harm) it is merely those people who want to cause trouble with Shell’s gas projects in Ireland. Why do we have to keep seeing that girl with the “Shell’s cops” banner? As I have said before, I suggest the Irish trouble makers think long and hard about the prospect of having to use gas from Putin (see what has happened to the Ukraine). There got that off my chest, albeit that it is just to reduce the amount of footage that “Relieved” has produced recently in the blog.
To Unrelieved: Having a bad day, or are you an RDS fan?
Relieved: you can stop this “sieg heil” bullshit. We get it. … or perhaps you are a closet Nazi, using this site to live out fantasies?
There is that old adage about not believing everything you read. Of course, we know that holds very true for anything RDS puts out.
John, as the new owner of RDS you must immediately update the business principles statement! First priority of an incoming chairman…..
Shell Canada has just sold over 50 retail gas stations to a third party. Longterm plan is to exit Retail within 2 years…..massive employee layoffs are expected.
John: Saw your video clip. Pictures are worth a thousand words, as the saying goes. There is no explaining this away. Sieg Heil (Hail Victory) !!
At the end of the cold war General Dynamics Corp., a US defense contractor, saw the handwriting on the wall and began to sell its operations divisions one by one, distributing the gains to shareholders as dividends. GD stock price soared because of the rich dividends. Insiders made a killing. Eventually GD was down to one operating company, Electric Boat, the primary manufacturer of nuclear submarine for the US Navy. GD pondered selling EB, thereby liquidating the company and retiring the GD brand name completely. Along came a new CEO and things changed. GD began to acquire additional businesses, and today they are now one of the ‘big 4′ US defense contractors. Maybe RDS will sell off its operating divisions, liquidate itself, and distribute the gains as dividends to the shareholders. Well, one can always hope. The world would most probably be a better place without RDS lurking about.
In a way, the merger of RDS and BP makes some sort of perverse sense. RDS is really out in the cold (no pun intended) in the US Arctic. BP, et al, own the assets necessary to make RDS’s investment in the Arctic pay-off handsomely. RDS would have to reproduce much of the in-place logistical base found at Prudhoe Bay, and then pump their oil through a pipeline they don’t own. And BP’s brand is forever tarnished in the US. They are a host of other synergies to be realized as well. Talks about such a merger, because it is NOT a merger of US based corporations are probably quite serious. This is something to watch for.
I saw your article on possible misconduct on the part of Shell with regard to proprietary trade secret information. If this fellow engaged in his business with Shell in the USA he needs to get moving with regard to potential legal action. All statutes in the US with regard to theft of trade secrets have associated statutes of limitations. Now, this fellow might bring action against Shell for breach of contract (4 year statute of limitation), conversion (2 year statute of limitation), or theft (2 years statute of limitation from date of first knowledge). The date of first knowledge clause in this statute was a gift to big business because it gives them a ‘forever’ clause to bring action against contractors, former employees, etc. There is also the Economic Espionage Statute he might consider because Shell is a foreign corp., etc., but this information was disclosed willingly. I hope this fellow got a signed NDA, otherwise he is probably S.O.L.
Your advice and warning about Shell is well founded. All those dealing with Shell need to protect themselves completely. And if Shell objects to the terms and conditions of the disclosure then don’t deal with them. However, if Shell thinks you are really on to something expect shenanigans on Shell’s part. Dealing with Shell is like dealing with the mafia. You get what you ask for – trouble, and often lots of it. As John has disclosed Shell is apparently even willing to go after highly classified US DOD military technology if they see a benefit. Industrial espionage, theft of IP, etc., is just a part and cost of doing business for Shell.
The recent appeals court decision against BP and Anadarko is an ill wind for RDS. It means they can be fined heavily for pollution-law violations resulting from gross-negligence/incompetence. Given Shell’s conduct in their recent Arctic adventure they clearly have been very lucky. However, they need to get their act together. The financial consequences of screwing up could be extremely severe, even before one considers clean-up costs. The shareholders of the company need to understand the full consequences of letting the junior varsity run the Alaskan operation.
Mr. Putin (or whom-ever you are) In the late 1930′s Europe went through a situation much like that found today in the Ukraine. They have seen this story before. Mr. Hitler was once lauded for his rebuilding of Germany, then his true nature showed itself. Mr. Putin was once lauded for his work at rebuilding Russia, but now his true nature is on display. What more need be said (Note: Hitler was not blond or blue-eyed. Putin is.).
Mr Donovan, I notice the attention you are giving to Ben van Beurden bowing to President Putin. It is not long since you were supplying the Russian government with confidential Shell internal documents that cost Shell its controlling stake of Sakhalin Energy. You seem to have rather changed your attitude to Putin?
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Changed by polonium poisoning in London and the invasion and annexation of Crimea. The UK government has also changed its attitude somewhat. In 2003 Putin undertook a state visit to Britain at the invitation on the UK government and attended a state banquet where he met with the royal family, no doubt including Prince Charles, who has also changed his attitude to Putin. Shell puts moral and ethical considerations to one side.
To Old EP Hand: Having had to deal with sour service issues when I worked for Shell on the ‘P’ side of the business I am as appalled as you are at the level of incompetence displayed on the Kashagan project, and by all parties. You are correct, someone signed off on all of this, and I suspect that some technical ‘expert’ at Shell signed-off as well. Probably a 2 year engineer who got saddled with processing incoming paperwork from the operator. If Shell management was as competent as LondonLad appears to have been in his time at Shell it is no wonder that the obvious was overlooked and ignored. Probably for ‘political’ reasons. Who would want to create a stink by claiming the Italians didn’t know their own rear ends from a hole in the ground ??? Maybe the Shell staff assigned to the project had the same problem.
London lad I wouldn’t judge by the time factor , i
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Niger Delta region of Nigeria in 1958 and has a long history of working … thirteen years of litigation, the case against Shell ended in a historic $15.5 million …
Comment by John Donovan:
Unfortunately the above posting is partly incoherent. The intended comment seems to be that the merits of the allegations should not be judged on a time factor, bearing in mind that it took 13 years of litigation before Shell settled a human rights claim for $15.5 million arising from Shell’s conduct in Nigeria.
As stated before, OSSL, it is indeed 5 years ago that this allegation first started. However, I guess Ireland has the same law of “innocent until proven guilty” SO why no prosecution of Shell yet? Innocent I would therefore say. All these allegations are just trying to pour a dampener on the Corrib project – what other mischief can these objectors attempt in order to stop a project that the country needs. Perhaps Russian gas might be cheaper and more reliable OSSL?
PLEASE SEE: Corrib Corruption Scandal on the Agenda at Royal Dutch Shell AGM
John, May we use your platform to inform all at Shell the following …it’s five years ago today that Shell CEO for Corrib took us into his office and informed us that a serious situation had arisen regarding Shells instructions to OSSL. He asked for two weeks of silence from us on all matters. In those two weeks he told us “I will sort it all out just be patient”. Senior Shell man Brian Foley was also in the room …..he remains in position as the top man on the Corrib project . What followed next is a comedy farce without humour. Thanks John .
Nexus, very many verbal instructions as you would expect for matters requiring confidentiality and integrity. CEO and one other senior Corrib Shell management now gone (very conveniently) and hopes of resolution in private dashed by spineless leaders and compromised police.
OSSL – were any verbal instructions given? If so, you have recourse via your contract with Shell. Alternatively, if you have Purchase Orders (PO) for service with issued Work Completion Certificates, or Purchase Requisitions with corresponding signed invoices for any of the services provided to SEPIL can be produced as supporting evidence for any work you can make a case. Under the Freedom of Information Act you can also request information for correspondence relating to OSSL, named company directors etc that can be used to gain access to data held in Shell or other companies related to this whole affair. I want to see justice done.
Nexus, you mean well I think, the Shell demand was for no traceability of Alcohol delivered to police. No traceability does what it says on the tin .
I am currently an employee with Shell. I write under an alias as a personal choice. I would like to ask OSSL – did you ever explore taking Shell to the small claims court for the non-payment of the (alleged) alcohol delivered to the Gardia? I am not sure how Irish law works, but such an avenue in the UK, would, I believe be a recourse for you to recoup the lost monies, whilst at the same time proving the existence / delivery of the aforesaid liquor. Personally I would want to see an end to this whole saga and those that have done wrong held to account.
Hi London Lad, whoever you are, it was the UK press that broke this story! Which prompted the Irish police Commissioner to launch an enquiry. The UK
Press picked up the matter from this Shell news site.
Can someone please explain to me (and on this site I’m sure there’s many) why there is still NO mention about this OSSL / booze subject etc. in the UK or Dutch press? Have to say that well done with “In the Gulf”, I think that “OSSL” appears to be someone who is drinking too much of the Guinness prior to his postings!! Also, why is there nothing of importance concerning the alleged manipulation of oil / gas prices by RDS etc. in the UK or Dutch press. I guess that there is nothing to prove.
P.S. I have a mate Donovan who says it should be MUSaint and not Musaint…….
REPLY BY JOHN:
Will take the correction as gospel coming from you, first hand.
I would like to repeat a warning I have mentioned before about postings on this blog. Websites allowing aliases to be used are especially vulnerable to manipulation. That includes Wikipedia and blogs such as this one. It follows that I can only vouch for the bona fides of postings made in my name or by contributors such as Paddy Briggs, who choose not to use an alias. Some contributors using aliases, such as “Outsider” and MUSaint/LondonLad have built up a reputation over several years for the integrity of their postings on this website.
Please explain, what’s a salt flat?
Lots of static since ..tree hugger …posting …asking why ? Shell wanted to blame Shell to Sea for damaging something called the salt flats ….does that make sense ?…
On the subject of Shell Corrib integrity note this fact. Shell instructed OSSL in a visit to our offices to recruit “tree huggers” their words, from outside Ireland to infiltrate a new Shell to Sea camp being assembled at Glencastle …..sounds crazy …it’s a fact – that’s how desperate they had become in 2006 on the Corrib Project; another inconvenient truth for the denial machine that is Shell.
Hi Relieved, believe me where Corrib management are concerned this Shell job has plumbed some depths. Crothers CEO (currently) wanted to tidy up but was stopped because revelations were too damming.
You have got to love the Irish ‘establishment’ and RDS. What a 3rd rate, Mickey Mouse operation. Classic mediocre soap opera comedy. They could not have screwed up any better if they had tried.
Last post 100% spot on bugging geeks were brought from outside the country at Nolans demand others that can confirm are Cronin and Byrne, Foley. Don’t know about bugging Teach Erris but they stayed there.
Document doing the rounds in Mayo Shell circles showing a local hotel bugging details (Gessala), and an instruction to only use non Irish surveillance team, GSOC take note, the instruction is confirmed by Shell.
Yes indeed, in 1999 I recommended that the Brent management team be suspended pending an investigation into their chronic misconduct, do you think such a recommendation comes easily to the lips when you still have some career ahead of you. Post the Brent Bravo incident in 2003, asked to assist in the production of documents that had unexplainably gone missing from files in Aberdeen and Den Haag, and as a retained Senior auditor for RDS, initiated investigation into Malcolm Brinded and others, including Chris Finlayson in 2004, for their part in the lead up to the deaths on Brent Bravo.
You may be surprised to hear that after the 2006 press release by Shell (copied to all staff worldwide) that I had essentially lied about the criminal neglect evident in Aberdeen over a prolonged period I received an extension of contract from RDS until 2008 which as you can realise was never honoured by RDS. So all open and above board, when I decided to provide evidence to the Regulator and the CPS in 2005 I did so only after I had informed the Board in writing and Van der Veer in person at a meeting in C16. At that time as a contracted employee.
At this juncture Shell had just pled guilty to all charges of neglect in the deaths on Brent Bravo.
Unlike you, I do not seek anonymity and have never taken any action against Shell, or it’s employees without notifying them in advance. I thought from your previous blogs that you were not a great fan of Chris Finlayson, but I may be wrong in that respect. Perhaps you can write a counter piece praising his skills as a Director and leader.
Please keep up your blogs, disparity of opinion is what makes the site so useful. Many of your comments are to be welcomed if a balanced debate is to be continued.
Star Gazer; Thought they send the best Arctic Alaska Wells Manager to develop unconventional in China. It’s a major change.
18 years in Shell I am still baffled by how we can waste so much money on doomed projects (billions on Arctic wasted and the Arctic project team are all still waiting around as if Shell is going to continue). I am hoping the board get a pasting at the AGM. Its time for a change. More transparency please.
I do believe Mr. Campbell is referring to the ‘Peter Principle.’ RDS is rife with examples of this.
Absolutely agree with the comments from “MaryM” and in fact very surprised that there has been almost no reporting of this violation against international human rights by Brunei being reported in the UK mainstream papers. A religion that drags countries back 500 years or more when applied in the format of Brunei, Saudi Arabia and Iran etc. Not exactly sure what RDS can do about this as a company, more the case that the US should start some form of oil/gas sanctions against Brunei. Oh dear me how stupid of me, the US doesn’t do that against large oil/gas producing countries. Even against Russia it’s only against individuals. I do like Friday’s – such humour is often written on this website by anti-RDS individuals on a Friday. Campbell in is usual attack on RDS and senior individuals – again Campbell did you make these concerns known within the RDS system when you were working for the company? Then there’s “Wari-or” (isn’t it Warri by the way?) with his laughable comment that “Even we (in Nigeria) are more good and honest with money”. Where has all the billions of dollars of oil revenue gone to over the years “Wari-or”? Oooooo that’s right to some fat Nigerians bank account overseas. Oh and by the way I have been to Nigeria, working there for 6 years, and it’s one of the most corrupt countries in the world.
It amuses me (not in a good way) that someone who is so adamant in implementing Sharia is neglecting the basic tenets of Islam and the Qur’an which prohibit exhibitions of extravagance be it in dress, jewellery, etc. I guess he’s a “Do as I say, not as I do” kind of ‘leader’.
Extravagance – which is to exceed the limits of what is required or what is customary – is something prohibited. Those who do so will be counted among the spendthrifts, about whom Allah says: “Verily the spendthrifts are the brothers of the devils.” [Sûrah al-Isrâ’: 27]
I give as an example…the incredible event that was his 5th child’s (daughter’s) wedding…some say in excess of $20MILLION was spent on the lavish affair which saw men and women mingling and men wearing silk clothing and golden jewelery.
You are true Mr Patrick. I do not know why the culture in Shell America is so selfish and think they are the leader of the world. I can tell you my friends it wont be long before we see devastating organisational changes. Cut this disorganised teams of charlatans off. Then i tell you you watch the stock price go up in the sky. Come here see Nigeria. Even we are more good and honest with money.
Odum may indeed be a nice guy, but that probably makes him a figure head leader. Weak, grinning glad-handers don’t make good corporate leaders. Yes men perhaps, but leaders – no. My bet is that it is Shell USA’s board (i.e., the RDS gang) that is making the big decisions (and mistakes). And that is probably the way RDS wants it. Odum is simply someone to hide behind.
Hi Loud Texan, don’t think it’s just Marvin Odum , it’s the whole team and culture in UA. Indeed time for change
A good day for Shell investors. Well done to CEO. But enough is enough. why is my great company continuing to limp along with the smiling but loss making Marvin Odum as head of America. We are not making money continue embarrassing the rest of the Shell with unforgivable mistakes. A nice guy but time for him to find a job in Hollywood. Time to get back to where we should be.
Chinese oil company may be interested too . That will be real competition if Someone does not block it.
Shell might have some competition from Total if they decide to mount a bid for BG. Andrew Gould has plenty of connections in France.
Hi Michael Crothers CEO of Shell ..using this platform to let you know …ask me for favors …ask me for police booze …ask me to lie to ombudsman ….
But don’t ask me to be stupid #shellsdisgrace
Shell is a very good company. It’s the people who lead it that makes a difference. Let’s hope for that day.
Brinded, Brown, Voser, Rees, Finlayson, Carne…
I’m sure there are more names that could be added to the list, but the oil industry seems to be currently haemorrhaging senior executives… and all from a specific clique. Is there a scandal about to break?
It’s reminiscent of 2004 (Watts, vd Vijver, Boynton, Hofmeister, Botts et al) and 2010 (Browne, Hayward)
OSSL you need fools to come forward and help you, it won’t happen cops won’t speak and we can’t, cheers for everything you did for us but that’s it.
Thanks John to you and all the contributors. Shell is an arrogant company which is wasting money on a big uncompetent work force. Alaska is just one example of shameful failure. Shell’s overpaid PR monkeys have proven to be ridiculously thick for allowing the Putin visit to go ahead.
WHat on earth did Shell do to you to make you so bitter twisted and biased~?
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The reasons why I set up this website can be easily deduced just by reading some of the information in these columns.
Interesting development on Shell Boozegate. Police inform OSSL they can’t ask main witness and offloader of booze anything because his rank is higher than investigators rank. Only a Commissioner can question the witness and he’s gone.
Shale gas has been produced for many years in places such as Sussex, and appears to have been used for lighting at Crowborough Station until quite recently…for example on https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/railwaycanal/conversations/topics/1213 you will find information from 1954.
It will be years before shale gas (if it can ever be produced economically) has any significant impact on gas supplies in the UK. It is not the answer to Russian gas, although it may determine the maximum price at which Russian gas can be sold.
In order to produce a significant volume of shale gas, thousands of wells will need to be drilled and fracced. There are very few drilling rigs available, suitable fraccing equipment is almost non-existent, and there are very few people available with the required expertise.
The construction of the required equipment, training of personnel, the drilling and completion of the required wells, and the construction of the required infrastructure (flow lines and gas treatment facilities) will require many years, and tens of billions of pounds of investment.
After the wells have been drilled, shale gas wells will require major maintenance work every couple of years – in many cases this maintenance will require resources comparable to those used for the initial construction of the well. This is not the same as a conventional gas well which may produce for 20 years without intervention.
Interesting article here which supports my view of UK shale gas production. It does not mention the timescale…
The amount of shale gas potentially recoverable in the UK is at least 10 times that of the famous Groningen field in The Netherlands. British shale gas has the potential to have a serious impact on Russian-European trade.
RDS negotiating sale of Canadian downstream assets.
Since when has RDS operated with ‘corporate social responsibility’. Recall RDS support for Hitler and his gang of demented perverts.
Paddy – voila! Precisely. Just what does the timing of the meeting tell us about the judgement of van Beurden and his PA advisors?
RETIRED ROYAL DUTCH SHELL EXECUTIVE, PADDY BRIGGS
I’m old-fashioned (and old) enough to think that “Corporate Social responsibility” matters. I am also an RDS shareholder. Unlike some previous posters here I don’t think that dividends are the only thing that Shell or any other Company should think about. The gory truth about Western oil companies dalliances with Mr Putin and his mob are well told in Tom Bower’s “The Squeeze”.
My review of it is here:
In the light of this story I think Mr van Beurden might well have been more circumspect with President Putin at this sensitive time.
While a lot of folks are irritated by the way RDS’s fearless leader sucked up to Putin it would wise to remember Shell has a great deal at stake in the land of the Russ and that he works for the shareholders who really don’t care if he sleeps with Putin so long as he keeps those dividends flowing. It is all about money, and the appropriate amount of shameless groveling and sucking up to Putin could pay off handsomely for RDS. As far as I can see van Beurden is just doing his job. National governments make foreign policy, not corporations, although they can dn
Well, hope that Donovan reads your requirements “Relieved” and restricts articles to RDS only. Any reference to 3rd parties involved directly or indirectly with RDS must not be mentioned on the website according to you “Relieved”. Thus if anyone castigates RDS (e.g. Greenpeace over Brent Spar) they must not be mentioned? Wow what a nodding donkey with an RDS problem “Relieved”. Even Donovan is somewhat more even keeled!! Let’s face it there are a majority of people who believe RDS is far far better than is made out by people such as yourself who post like nodding donkeys on this website – yes I am one of those. All this said, fair play to Donovan he generally allows both sides of an argument to be printed (clearly something you don’t want or like).
REPLY BY JOHN:
This blog is meant for free and open discussion about Shell and related matters as has always been the case. Always happy for both sides of a debate to be published.
Sheep pen list just the tip of the iceberg of gifting, now referred to by Shell BID department as “corruption” funny they weren’t calling it that at the time.
LondonLad: Once again, people visit this website to read about RDS, not about Greenpeace, et al., like it or not.
RDS – Brent Spar – Greenpeace : spot the linkage “Relieved”?? You are the one who clearly misses the point in that statistics are used by industry, Governments, Greenpeace, this website etc. to attempt to prove a point. Having this website just for nodding donkeys such as yourself would be somewhat incestuous and very boring. Maybe to allow people like yourself to continue self beatification by attacking RDS at every (unfounded) opportunity there should be a password to allow only anti-RDS contributors?
LondonLad: You seem to have missed the fact that this website is dedicated to RDS, not Greenpeace or any other environmental conservation/protection organization. If you don’t like those folks, and clearly you don’t, then why don’t you establish your own anti-Greenpeace/tree hugger blog.
Fooling around with numbers “Relieved” is also a problem with Greenpeace. Remember all the fictitious numbers they used for the amount of pollutants in the Brent Spar. They also were eventually found out, but hasn’t stopped them blowing up the numbers to attempt to stir trouble. And again Campbell targets Shell for the use of statistics however he does just the same. Statistics can be used to prove almost any point you want – that includes some of the anti-Shell folk on this site.
Fooling about with numbers is a constant game with senior level they do it with everything. And management at RDS is not alone. Recall Enron’s debacle. Of course, RDS finally got caught big time in 2004 with its fooling about with reserve numbers. However, when it comes to risk analysis eventually the chickens come home to roost and there is a serious ‘incident’ that always makes the news. It is not a matter of ‘if’ but ‘when’, but RDS management does not seem capable of learning from past malfeasance. If RDS management keeps fooling around in the Artic they are going to get their heads handed to them in a way that will threaten the existence of the company.
Ian Blauu: small correction, the Dutch pensionfund is handled by Shell Nederland and the bulk of the money comes from the NAM and more specific: Groningen. The Dutch pensioners are therefore quite safe for the next 20 years or so.
I prefer a CEO who keeps up the standards of decency and technical superiority. In words and actions. Grovelling to the dictators of the world is just not on! Jeroen v.d. Veer did the same when Putin stole half the Shell share. He thanked him for that. And if you behave like a serf you get treated like a serf!
I fear van Beurden has the wrong advisors in this matter. Probably americans, they get it wrong all the time!
Shellwaarbenjijnu, you know very well Shell has to rely on Sahkalin In Russia, China, Nigeria, and few others to continue to fund the Shell pension in Holland. By the way , ” Bowing” means respect in many countries.
@Ian Blauu – I was not implying Shell should exit Russia. My observation relates to van Beurden’s body language. There is no requirement in Dutch / European / Russian culture to bow unless you are acknowledging a “superior” which is akin to groveling. The CEO of Shell does not have to grovel. He is at the top of an energy company which by any measure is the superior of anything Russian.
As for Putin knowing Shell’s business better than van Beurden – of course. Van Beurden has to rely on reports from Shell staff which will have been spun and shaped to convey the message “everything is in great shape”. Putin will have his spies everywhere feeding him the undiluted truth.
Shellwaarbenjijnu: completely agree, I saw him on TV, ‘Thank you very much, Mr President, for being able to see me here today. It seems that you know our business in Russia as well as I do.’ Also follow this link http://eng.kremlin.ru/news/7039 for the full text. I am almost certain I heard him say two or three times ‘thank you Mr President’. This grovelling made my stomach turn. Had Putin asked ‘and now you kiss my ass’, I am sure van Beurden would have complied. Anything for the shareholder! Somehow I cannot see the boss of Exxon behave like this!
Shellwaarbenjijnu, Shell is a business. Ben has to keep the share price high. Exiting Ukraine’s unconventional would be the right thing to do too.
van Beurden – shame on you! The front page of the Dutch newspaper De Telegraaf shows you bowing your head to Putin while he looks straight ahead. “Shell welkom in Rusland”.
Where is your pride man? Have you forgotten the humiliation heaped on Shell over Sakhalin based on trumped up charges of environmental vandalism? All originated by a ruthless kleptocrat who at the same time willfully ignores the environmental catastrophy of nuclear waste leaking from abandoned former Soviet navy submarines rotting away in the arctic. Putin is so bent he cannot lie straight in bed at night and you bow your head to him? Shame, shame, shame.
We were lucky in the 1993 SMDS explosion as it was Christmas Eve when everyone was off. For the record Train 9 is part of LNG facilities next door not part of SMDS. Just wish Prelude all the best.
@Deltaic – don’t wish to be overly “pickey” but I thought the discussion was around the safe functioning of the Bintulu GTL (pilot) plant. Train #9 refers to yet another addition to the LNG plant the functionality and safety of which was not under discussion.
Good job that those with real knowledge about projects kept going with aviation development (despite crashes and deaths) else we would be in some trouble wouldn’t we!! Guess you don’t fly Outsider. Still agree with LL as the Bintulu project has been a success despite some early problems and hence train 9 being built.
I am amazed to hear yet again that a project which resulted in an explosion and fire and the destruction of hundreds of millions of dollars that had been spent on its construction is a “success” – how are we supposed to take these people seriously? According to their logic, if Prelude blows up, but later designs of FLNG plant do not, then Prelude was a success? Trial and error is not normally the design approach used for multi-billion dollar projects.
Releived and Outsider really have no knowledge of what Shell is doing or has done regarding the building and addressing of safety issues with Prelude. All that comes across to me is a couple of people who have no idea of the project but merely guess incorrectly. Either way the project goes ahead and the moaners carry on wasting their time. Having been involved with Bintulu I have to agree with London Lad and say that it has in the end been an excellent project for all concerned.
LondonLad: you answer your own question quite admirably: I believe that there are lots of advantages to new technology which should be exploited to the extent possible. However, with all new technologies there is also a risk that something has been overlooked, the consequences of which may be catastrophic – as with the effects of the smoke from forest fires on the Bintulu GTL plant. Nobody actually knows what is going to happen to Prelude when it gets hit by a cyclone, but there will be green water going across the decks and through the process facilities with enormous force.
It may be interesting for your readers to know that the process used at Pearl and Bintulu is the “Fischer-Tropsch Process” developed in Germany in the 1920s due to a shortage of petroleum resources and taking advantage of an abundance of coal (see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fischer%E2%80%93Tropsch_process ). It was further developed by Sasol in South Africa during the 1970s to address the shortage of oil caused by the oil embargo.
LondonLad refers to the “Fischer-Tropsch” process as SMDS (Shell Middle Distillate Synthesis) and implies that it is something newly developed by Shell. It is neither new nor was it developed by Shell. The technology was proven 75 years before Bintulu exploded, and similar plants have been in operation in South Africa since the 1970s. The only difference was that the South African plants did not have to contend with smoke from forest fires.
Again you miss my point and don’t answer the question!! Indeed Bintulu was shut down for 2 years after the explosion in the Air Separation Unit. What was the cause? – minute atmospheric particles stemming from the forest fires which blanketed Borneo and which entered and accumulated in the ASU resulting in an explosion. This was NOT related to SMDS technology. My question is Bintulu a success – well for Malaysia and all interested parties it would appear so as they are now on to Train 9. Outsider, I think you are a glass half-empty man who does like progress (particularly from Shell).
With regard to the Prelude FLNG project I think we can all agree that Shell is trying something that has never been tried before and that it does not have the corporate culture necessary to manage that facility safely. It does, in fact, have the poorest safety record of the major oil companies. So, it is reasonable to say that management has embarked upon a development program it does have the will or the where-with-all to manage and reduce the risks associated with this project to a manageable level. We only need look and BP and its Thunderhorse project. Hence, it is reasonable to presume that sometime in the future there will be an ‘incident’ that is serious. One can only hope Shell has been able to obtain proper insurance for this venture.
LondonLad: The first Bintulu plant was destroyed in an explosion and fire, with numerous injuries to people on site. If this is your definition of success, God help the crew of the Prelude.
You miss my point Outsider. Of course there is a risk with anything a human does, be it as a single person or as a company. Let’s face it most accidents occur in the home. Should we stop progress just because of the risks involved – no as far as I’m concerned. That’s my point. As long as most risks (of course ideally all, but humans are involved here) have been identified and addressed then projects should go ahead. Comparing Prelude to a 1934 Texas refinery (plus picture) is not a direct comparison. Sure, I remember the Bintulu GTL problem well but it shouldn’t stop / delay Prelude. Has Bintulu been a success or failure? The former I believe for both Shell and Malaysia. I’m sure the glass half-full people will jump at this conclusion.
London Lad: You need look no further than the first Bintulu GTL plant or the Port Arthur refinery to see that the application of “new” technology does not prevent mishaps. I would also remind you that Shell demonstrated unequivocally in Alaska that even with new projects, they have no hesitation in using 50 year old technology when it appears to offer a reduction in costs.
Prelude – a cause for celebration as far as I’m concerned Campbell. My glass is always half-full, clearly most commentators on here have a glass that is always half-empty (as far as Shell is concerned anyway). Again the tabloid photo upfront of the explosion at the BP Texas City Refinery – scaremongering again methinks. A 1934 refinery compared to a modern day FLNG/FLPG – some people just don’t want to see progress, especially in the Shell world. Let’s just rely on the supplies from Russia shall we…….
Corrib Watcher: Don’t get your hopes too high. Dutch law and Shell’s lawyers will make it almost impossible for the Irish police to find anything of interest
John tell your LL contributor ….word is Irish Police are in Holland at Shells integrity department demanding sight of enquiry details regarding the supply of alcohol by Shell to the Irish Police. Previous attempts to gain access to the enquiry details were blocked by Shell CEO in Ireland.
LondonLad: You are a fool.
Well Washington Observer, you use the words “rumor” (we would say rumour), “alleged”, and “not privy to the details” – so really there’s not too many facts in your commentary. I would say it’s more of “hot air”, tabloid titillation” and “same-old, same-old” against Shell. I await for the usual 10 pages of defence from someone I won’t name.
The comment by “Relieved” citing a relatively obscure field in Mississippi seems to imply that sour gas (H2S) is a relatively rare occurrence. It is not. Sour gas occurs frequently in oil and gas fields throughout the world, and must always be considered in facilities design. The presence of very high levels of H2S in Kashagan was known from the time of the first discovery well. The apparent failure to incorporate design features to address the presence of 17% H2S in the development plan can only be described as gross negligence on the part of all of the partners.
Rumor has it that a complaint is about to filed in Federal district court in Washington, D.C., that is related to Shell USA’s alleged attempt to gain access to US DoD classified technology. I am not privy to the details of this case, but I would watch for it.
I find the problems at Kashagan to be absolutely unforgivable given all of Shell’s experience with sour service equipment at the Thomasville field in Mississippi, USA. Shell USA virtually set the standards for sour service equipment, not only for production well equipment, but also for the processing facilities that removed the H2S from gas and oil and converted it into elemental sulfur. What happened at Kashagan was absolutely preventable and should never have happeded. However, it would appear Shell has ‘downsized’ its technical expertise right out of the company.
Tyler, well said. Heard Ben coming to China to sign off another U$0.5bil to sink in Sichuan. As long as you have the American cowboys running the show, we really pity Shell. We dont have Odum here but we have Brad Kerr. Ben, please do something with Ole boys and get rid of the high overhead if you are serious about developing unconventional in China.
@Old EP Hand – you are absolutely spot on in respect of Odum. Of course he should be fired. He is the “captain” of the Titanic that is the Shell operation in the Americas and is therefor 100% accountable for all that goes right and WRONG on his ship. There are smooth talkers and smooth talkers but none come as close to Odum (although the likes of Botts and Hoffmeister came close). You says it stinks to heaven but that is the problem in the US. It is indeed a “heaven connection”. All these guys at the top have their Southern Baptist, Mormon, etc closed shops and they will protect themselves as they hold hands, close their eyes and “praise the lord”.
@Tyler – your point on China is similar. The “good ole boy” politics and “clappy handy” church connections do not make for clarity on accountability & responsibility and hence excellence in business results (and ethics). Let us hope (and pray??) that van Beurden puts a stop to this poison which has weakened Royal Dutch Shell since the late 1990′s.
In the FT interview of April 1 van Beurden talked of the necessity of taking tough choices. He has a number to take but firing incompetent, smooth talking, power point pilots from the US should be one of the easy ones for him to take.
Let’s talk China. Shell has made commitment to drill Sichuan Province (press release 03/2014). What the story doesn’t tell everyone is that Shell has spent 1 Billion USD and has yet to find sustainable gas. It also does not address the fact that Shell China has gone from 9 rigs to 1 rig in Sichuan. Office staff in Chengdu is over 500 people for a 1 rig operation, by the end of 4Q 2014.
Let’s not forget that Shell China has been put under the US Unconventional Wells group. These are the same ones that screwed up the US Shale Gas Projects. The new manager is Chengdu is an American who came from Alaska, we know how that turned out.
There are so many things wrong in China and RDS has no idea of what is going on.
Investors be aware that it is a sink hole with no financial bottom and the “good ole boy” politics are in play in China.
John, you say Odum should resign. I disagree completely. He should be fired. Gross incompetence of a smooth talker. And how much of the billions that Shell USA wasted on the shalegas and cock-ups in Alaska flowed into the pockets of his friends? I have no proof at all, but in my humble opinion it all stinks to high heaven!
To Bill: if you read the report I refer to, it says that the contents ignited. It even says in the last paragraph: -quote- Further, it should be noted that the ignition of the two unconfined vapor clouds of LNG in Cleveland did not result in explosions. There was no evidence of any explosion overpressures after the ignition of the spill from either the cylindrical tank or the sphere. The only explosions that took place in Cleveland were limited to the sewers where LNG ran and vaporized before the vapor-air mixture ignited in a relatively confined volume. The U.S. Bureau of Mines concluded that the concept of liquefying and storing LNG was valid if “proper precautions are observed”.
Regards the accident in Belgium, please google a bit, the accident was a ruptured high pressure gas line (40in, 85bar). Please check the place – it is more than 100km away from the regasification facility in Zeebrugge.
Regarding scaremongering – maybe I overreacted a bit, you can never exclude risk fully, but it is not exclusive to Shell and should not be an excuse to not try to evolve technology to the next level… I may be mistaken on the purpose of your article, but it seems that that is your message.
Cash all gone comments – My reply
John: Could you please include this correction as a blog from me. If the fellow cares to read the report on the website he linked it clearly states that when the fire had almost died down, the tank collapsed with some 9400 gallons of LNG spilled, this evaporated and in their words promptly ignited so we had a fire followed 20 minutes later by an explosion.
The Belgium incident is listed as an LNG incident on many websites.
I don’t quite understand the scaremongering charge, after all, these events happened did they not and were generally as a result of human error. It is to avoid the charge of bias that at all times I refer to historical failure data both related to Shell operations but industry operations also, as Cash be Gone should understand in determination of the probability of such events were are guided by – has it happened in our industry, has it happened to Shell, the answer to many of the questions is yes it has.
Cash All Gone: I think you are overdoing it a bit. Bill describes a number of incidents involving methane. LNG is liquid methane, but in the event of release it will immediately assume the gaseous form, which when mixed with air can form explosive mixtures. You are right in that LNG in liquid form is not explosive, but the time for which it remains liquid in the event of release is very short. Any escape of LNG will therefore result in a potentially explosive cloud of methane gas and air – exactly as happened in the events that Bill describes.
Reaction to Bill Campbell’s scaremongering article – please get your facts straight as the article is a brilliant mix of truth, halftruth and false statements. For example – the Cleveland incident in 1944 – there was no LNG explosion, there was fire only, except minor explosions in the sewage where the LNG got confined – source: http://www.ch-iv.com/history.html
The explosion in Belgium was not an LNG pipeline, the only regasification facility in Belgium is in Zeebrugge, at the offloading terminal. The gas explosion was caused by a bulldozer hitting a high-pressure maim ring pipeline running under an industrial area. Nothing to do with LNG except that the gas in the line may have been supplied into Belgium as LNG, but it was in gaseous form, nit liquid form in that pipeline.
I see the reasons for your gripe with Shell, but please stay with facts, not with assumptions. You have left Shell and the industry a long time ago – the industry has changed and is still changing rapidly, especially on the HSE side, as it is well understood that it is an essential part of the license to operate.
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LondonLad , You got it wrong. Look at why some Asian SEG left Shell. They are much smarter than the current crop of Excom. It’s some expats trying to divide and rule to lengthen their stay. Sounds like you are one of them from the time your have overstayed in Far East. Shell itself is a very Good company.
I would say “Mohd. Yusuf” it is you that has a very large chip on your shoulder, as I say perhaps because of less than average performances that have caught up on you. As I said, there are many excellent Malaysians and many that have reached the highest levels within Shell. These include chairman of Shell Companies in Malaysia, SSB & SSPC. The “recolonization” statement is merely that of someone who has failed at the workplace in his own country (or perhaps too much tuak?). You didn’t bother to reply to my factual statement that Malaysian Chinese were held back during the enforced Bumiputra first dictate. There are so many opportunities for GOOD performers in Shell, Exxon, Petronas etc. – you likely do not reach that level and hence you shot at the distant past by trying to blame expats in the companies.
As an aside Donovan does this website now make money? – I notice the gradual encroachment of adverts down the left hand-side.
REPLY BY JOHN DONOVAN
Advertising revenue do not cover the cost of one server – we use two, but nonetheless, is welcome. So no, it does not make make money, but I am happy to continue funding it unless you insist on chipping in to make sure we generate lots of ongoing coverage for our Irish friends.
LondonLad, you must have retired after your tropic years in Far East. You smell like a colonial snob during my grandpa time. Many Asians have left after Shell globalized. This is another of recolonising us. Fortunately our national oil companies are getting very smart. They help stop all our easy oil money from flowing out.
The key words in your response Donovan are “have been” covered in the mainstream press. They no longer are at the moment. Secondly I thought that a person or company were innocent until proven guilty under UK and Irish law. My point is that this website and a few others think the law is the other way round. Shell has not until now been required to defend itself in court despite all the hollering of this website.
Any further mainstream news media coverage will depend on the outcome of the current investigation by the Police Ombudsman. The key item of evidence is an OSSL invoice for over €43,000 (with VAT) that I have published on numerous occasions stretching to almost a year ago. It contains detailed information, including the names of Shell employees/managers and the names of specific police officers, including Chief Superintend John Gilligan who helped unload the free alcohol. Strange that none of these named individuals have issued defamation proceedings against me. Strange that Shell has refused to state that the invoice is fake. Strange that despite two investigations by Shell and two investigation by the Irish police, prior to the current investigation by the Ombudsman, no one has branded the invoice as being fake or taken action against OSSL on that basis. So we await the conclusion of the current inquiry that commonsense suggests must either end with action being taken against Shell for corruption, or against OSSL for fraud, forgery and perjury. The invoice is either fake in which case OSSL is in the dock, or its not, in which case Shell is in the mire.
To “Mohd Yusuf” (and to an extent “AsiaDragon”) having worked in the Far East there are certainly many excellent Malaysian and Chinese staff working for Shell – a good number have reached very senior levels within the company. Some have headed Shell companies in the Far East. I fear however that, particularly Mohd Yusuf has a problem with his performance (bypassed, not really up to the required level??) and then blames it on the company / expats etc. If indeed you have a problem with Shell then apply to Petronas or some other local / international company in Malaysia. This is what happens in the UK – wake up and smell the coffee and stop blaming the expats for your inadequacies. Let’s face the fact Mohd Yusuf the Chinese were severely restricted in their advancement through Shell, Petronas and other companies because of the Bumiputra requirements. Was this fair considering that many Chinese with a far superior performance than the Bumiputra were held back??
Well OSSL / Rooney (any relation?) / Donovan – seems like it’s the same old (non) story from you lot. No substance, no conviction in the court, just tabloid sensationalism over a story (fiction or otherwise) that still doesn’t reach the mainstream newspapers here. Sure the local rag still hangs on to the story, as does this website, but surely if Shell was anywhere near to being guilty even the Irish courts would have started the prosecution process. Still like seeing that sole scruffy student with his placard in your oft repeated photograph!!
REPLY BY JOHN DONOVAN:
PLEASE SEE THIS ARTICLE
Perhaps you would like to see another photo, not as clear, but plenty of protestors, although probably none complying with your strict dress code see below. As I have told you before, the OSSL allegations have been covered in the mainstream press – The Guardian, The Sunday Times and the Irish Times, among others and on Irish TV and Radio. The investigation by the Irish Police Ombudsman is still in progress. I supplied evidence to the chief investigating officer last week. The Irish Justice Ministry and the Irish Police are in such disarray, its difficult to know what is going to happen next.
An ethical blind eye at KPMG and Shell just cracked open a little… new Commissioner in Ireland will want answers regarding jail threats for alcohol delivery company wrongly vilified in Shell Garda booze joint venture.
Hi …just been asked by Shell why we continue to flog a dead horse …we replied that we didn’t see them as a dead horse and that it is our firm belief that an honest man or woman with clout in that giant orginisation will step forward and arrest this ethical meltdown on the Corrib Gas Project #shellethicalmeltdown
Your ChinaDaily extract on Shell investing in Sichuan is out of date. Huibert Vigeveno, Mr Chairman please wake up. Wonder when are all your Chinese Ministry visits bearing real investment and projects. Don’t just do these shows to get your next progression to the Excom. What about local staff future and Shell long term future in China.
CashAllGone, are you saying the Shell expat JGB n A etc allow this to happen. Then Shell might as well use local Jg9 to do the job.
to Mohd Yusuf: what contracting strategy is there to form if Petronas just dictates which yard is the next in the queue to get the project?
Shellwaarbenjijnu n Relieved. The Gumusut kakap project award is the brainchild of Shell PnT led by Mathias B. It’s managed by a group of expats who don’t know how to develop contract strategy in a developing country environment like Malaysia. Some just come for three years to get their promotion and leave to a new job with promotion. Look at Hendrik Snyman, he put this experience in his CV and got a VP CP job in an oil and gas company in Australia. Many qualified Malaysian who challenged this has left because this mess.
@Relieved – you have hit the nail on the head and the sorry “hands off” approach (even as operator) appears to have been adopted in Malaysia with the Gumusut Kakap development. The contract was let to a Malaysian contractor with no experience of executing such a large project with the predictable result of quality issues, delay, rework, cost escalation, loss of production (revenue). All in the name of not upsetting a Malaysian bumi putra contractor with strong poitical connections (ownership?)
“The contract for construction of the FPS has been awarded to Malaysia International Shipping Corporation (MISC). The FPS is being constructed at MISC’s fabrication facility in Johor, Malaysia. The engineering, procurement, construction and load-out contract for the topsides and hull of the FPS was awarded to Malaysia Marine and Heavy Engineering.”
Your Shell Executive is playing the game still. Nobody’s bothered about 200 plus cops sharing 27k of alcohol, he wants to divert your gaze from the real matter ie..silencing the Garda and vilifying the messenger they sent to do their bidding. Your still very sharp London Lad, you have us all fooled, or do you?
I don’t think there is any devious intent on the part of LondonLad. He simply thinks its all overblown and does not matter even if the allegations are true.
To LondonLad: This is my basic bitch with RDS management on Kashagan and other projects. RDS KNEW the Italians were not up to the job, and they KNEW there were potential contractor performance issues, and they KNEW what the consequences of bungling the engineering and construction operations could be. Yet they sat around sucking their thumbs, picking their noses and scratching their dirty butts and did nothing proactive to avoid the a predictable end result. That is deliberate misconduct on their part and the shareholders of the company should demand their heads. There is no excuse for this kind of (mis)managementof shareholder assets. None.
Your photo merely proves my statement : few people are interested in the booze to Irish cops tabloid reporting / subject. One scruff with a placard ……. Wow I’m very impressed.
PLEASE SEE THIS ARTICLE
Perhaps you would like to see another photo, not as clear, but plenty of protestors, although probably none complying with your strict dress code.
What’s up with the current reorganization? It seems that people over 50 years of age are targeted for release and VERY inexperienced but young people are retained. Is this tolerated by a company who claims to be upright and to respect people?
I have been reflecting on the revealing recent comment by a former Royal Dutch Shell senior executive known on this website as “LondonLad” in which he trivialised the serious allegations that Shell has corrupted the Irish police by giving free booze to hundreds of officers alleged to be “Shell’s Cops.” This is what he said on the subject: “For those Irish who want a tipple – so what. Probably less than 0.01% of the UK / Irish population give a damn about the project and the alleged giving of some booze to the Irish police. Get over it and move on…” That is an indication of his regard for Shell’s much trumpeted Business Principles and for anti-corruption laws.
They main problem is (more so with motiva) is there are so many management people, that hiring freezes are imposed, which will not allow people to be brought in for the actual operations positions. Also many cases of “jobs” being created for certain managers when the locations they were employed were sold off, or closed. In short, too many chiefs, and not enough Indians!
LondonLad: Given the health risks associated with the accidental release of Hydrogen Sulphide, and the effects of Hydrogen Sulphide embrittlement on the strength of steel, I would have thought that is would be an area of great interest to partners. Hydrogen Sulphide gas is toxic at concentrations as low as just ten parts per million.
London Lad and all on Corrib. OSSL served Corrib well as is confirmed by current CEO in writing. In 2010 OSSL took a small confidential (at Shells insistence ) problem to the then CEO in Ireland. The CEO failed to cure the problem, three leading players on Corrib bit the dust because of the nature of the problem …a sweep up team were put in place but failed to cure the OSSL problem choosing instead to freeze them and hope for silence …the cops booze is only a tiny part of the problem ..but it’s the headline getter …we are not checking on Shells morality we are demanding some integrity from them. This won’t go away till cured .
Of course it’s a large and expensive project – I have never denied this. What I have said, and you still refuse to accept, is the level of detail that is required to be followed / checked by the non-operators. Individual weldings would be very very unusual for a non-operator to check on.
To LondonLad: Is not Kashagan a ‘large’ and ‘expensive’ project ?? If any project deserved meticulous oversight by Shell technical staff this one most surely did. Shell management screwed the pooch on this project. I have nothing further do add other than that someone needs to walk the plank over this.
Well “Relieved” that makes two of us who have worked in a similar Shell environment (operations also included in my case). Your examples of Shell staff “duplicating” the operators work is / was indeed the case for many of the large / costly projects. However, you miss my point about how far this type of “duplicate” work went. Checking individual welding work was not expected (neither was light bulb maintenance & toilet cleanliness). I say again that those with an agenda about Shell seem to attack them at every twist and turn, even if Shell had very little input into a problem or potential problem.
“OSSL” I am interested in our planet. I am also interested in moving the planet forward for our children. The small number of Irish complaining about the Corrib project clearly don’t want progress. For those Irish who want a tipple – so what. Probably less than 0.01% of the UK / Irish population give a damn about the project and the alleged giving of some booze to the Irish police. Get over it and move on (or back in your case). Still no court case for Shell on this eh!! Yes Donovan there may well have been a meeting concerning OSSL but the numbers were no doubt very small (as you yourself have shown in the past with a few scruff bags demonstrating the issue). Quoting the extreme left wing newspapers (Observer & Guardian) does not inspire me at all – they have a major problem with accepting anything that big business does.
REPLY BY JOHN DONOVAN:
Perhaps you have not noticed, but people standing around in the wind at the Shell Centre for hours at a time, handing out leaflets, do not tend to worry too much about sartorial elegance. As to the number of people in attendance at the meeting, that is pure speculation on your part. Many Shell to Sea events have involved large numbers of protestors. Not dressed to the standard you require, but making their strong feelings known, as they are legally entitled to do. Freedom of speech, human rights, all those dreadful left wing ideals promoted by The Guardian and The Observer. Is that why you find these great newspapers so objectionable?
Some photographs of “Shell to Sea” protest events are displayed below. If the photos were larger you could get some idea of the not inconsiderable numbers in attendance.
To LondonLad: When I worked at Shell I worked upstream exploration. I have news for you. On critical wildcats we would virtually duplicated the efforts of our partners and their vendors. That meant having geologists, etc., on site looking over the shoulders and duplicating the work of the operators staff and their contractors staff. We would supervise and modify their proposed logging operations, and we would do our own evaluations of those logs, and we would submit our own recommendations to the operating company management independent of what their staff would recommend. We would submit our own completion and testing recommendations. Sometimes we agreed, often we did not. And when we did not we ALWAYS got our way. To put it bluntly, our people were more competent and better at their jobs than those working for our partners. In short Shell paid to have their staff involved up to their ‘elbows and assholes’. And it made a HUGE difference on a number of occasions. In one case we actually went back and twinned some exploration wells that had been abandoned as ‘dry’. We got 5 new gas fields and about a 1/2 TCF of natural gas in that case. We also got about 15 mm bbls of condensate. Keeping a close eye on our contractors was a very cost effective way to operate, and it paid off handsomely to do so. Don’t feed me your standard line of lazy, ignorant middle level management crap. You were obviously never involved in operations. Like I have said more than once, at one time Shell was a well run company. That day however, has long since passed into the pages of history. The company is in the hands of pretenders and dilettantes now.
Comment by John Donovan.
Added the above photo of Marvin Odum, Director of Upstream Americas, Royal Dutch Shell Plc. For some reason, his image came to mind after reading the last sentence of the posting.
Hi London Lad …who ever you are …perhaps no interest on “your” planet in the Corrib debacle but there is a good appetite for the matter amongst shareholders who witnessed Vosers discomfort at the last AGM …there are twelve very serious questions SHELL cannot afford to address in an honest manner.
OSSL EMAIL SENT TODAY TO SHELL EXECUTIVES, INCLUDING CEO BEN VAN BEURDEN.
….be prepared for the AGM …….unless you request differently ………
1:..you did instruct the alcohol supply …………….
2:..you did disguise the landowners favours …………
3:..you did demand falsification of police statement …
4:..you did send KPMG to frighten a vendor ………….
5:..you did gift an employee tennis courts ………….
6:..you did hold a meeting about disguised favours …..
7:..you did state that your actions were immoral …….
8:..you did arrange the handover of the alcohol ……..
9:..you did tell OSSL they would never work again ……
10:.you did operate a system called Jacintas garden ….
11:.you did vilify an innocent vendor ………………
12:.you did act without integrity ………………….
Have to agree with “Cash All Gone” as no partner in my 30 years in the oil industry has even gone down to the rivet welding level in checking the operators work. Indeed “Relieved” Shell did and still does second staff into an operators organization but certainly isn’t expected to check welding, light bulb maintenance, toilet cleanliness etc. etc. Of course as ever this silly story has been blown out of all proportions on this website by the usual tabloid reporting and add-ons, so don’t get too worked up “C-A-G”. For “Apprin” your comment that “competency is NOT recognized” is often the case – from the person himself / herself. The problem with humans is that they invariably have a much higher opinion of their competency / performance compared to others. I guess that you are one of those for the chop and merely don’t like it. Finally to the eternal moaner “OSSL” it seems that you together with Donovan are just about the only persons on this planet interested in this old story. No criminal charges and likely none in the future. Just enjoy your 6-Nations win and get on with your life of Guinness.
REPLY TO LONDONLAD BY JOHN DONOVAN:
Your timing is a bit off at the moment. Earlier this month you complained when I linked Shell to events in Ukraine. My article was the first to do so and was followed by numerous articles making the same connection. Now you say that OOSL and “Donovan” are just about the only persons on this planet interested in the OSSL allegations against Shell. On Sunday, a public meeting held in Ireland, streamed live on the Internet, discussed a number of issues including the OSSL allegations. One of the panel, Ed Vulliamy, the senior Observer/Guardian journalist, referred without any legal caveat, to Shell buying $70,000 of booze for the cops at Christmas. He read out correspondence he had with the Garda and his discussions with Shell officials. One Shell official threatened on the one hand to sue OSSL for defamation, while on the other declining to make an outright denial that OSSL allegations were true. He also made a strange comment that it would be best if the story was not published. The Observer/Guardian editors had the courage to ignore what could be construed as an implied threat and published the story. The entire video of the public meeting can be viewed online – the segment about OSSL/Corrib starts at about 28 mins. Furthermore, the Garda Ombudsman inquiry into OSSL allegations is still in progress. So, as much as you and Shell might wish otherwise, this story is current and ongoing. Mr Vulliamy, a friend of mine, also makes forthright comments about Shell’s ghastly conduct in Nigeria. An article about the public meeting was published on 18 March 2014 by The Irish Times.
REPLY TO LONDONLAD BY JOHN DONOVAN:
To Outsider: the difference is that as shareholder you buy a share in an incorporated entity with its own legal ‘personality’, while very often (like Macondo) these are unincorporated entities – basically just partnerships where 1 partner is assigned to operate/execute on behalf. The other partners provide assurance and due diligence, but I still have to see the first time that a non-operating partner, without good cause, will dig to the detail of verifying weld NDT test certificates.
To CashAllGone: there is a big difference between a shareholder and a partner in a project – a shareholder has no right to interfere with the day to day operations of a company in which they hold shares, and has no responsibility beyond the value of his shares if things go wrong. However, a partner in an E&P venture has far greater responsibilities. Why do you think that Mitsui and Anadarko (as partners of BP) were liable for a share of the costs of Macondo?
Shell is currently going through a reorganization scam that is simply a legal way of discriminating against anyone over a particular age and also as a way of assuring that the good-old-boy network is alive and well.
Age discrimination has been alleged and the H.R. division has put it to bed neatly while telling outright lies to complainants regarding the H.R. “investigation” results. Managers are not accountable for ruining the reputation of competent employees. Competency is NOT recognized; however, past relationships are the key to advancement by inexperienced and unethical managers. Skilled personnel are assigned tasks that keep them out of recognition while particular employees are synthetically elevated by managers.
Shell is begging for litigation in the most recent “reorganization” in the U.S.
To CashAllGone: Back in my day at Shell it was not uncommon for Shell to assign staff directly to a project for the purpose of keeping an eye on their investment, giving advice to their partners and contractors, wanted or not, and also to raise hell when things were not being done properly. As a partner in a project Shell has every right to do just that, and it is up to Shell management to insure that their money is being spent wisely. In engineering the ‘devil is truly in the details’ and it is far better to do the job right the first time than to go back and fix a cock-up. I spent a good deal of my time at Shell traveling the world doing just that. But the old Shell is dead, and such is life.
To Outsider: there is a large difference between having procedures and following procedures. I am quite sure that all relevant procedures were in place, but they probably were not followed… How can a non-operating partner/shareholder reasonably go into that detail. It’s like any Shell shareholder being to blame for what the conpany does wrong… And remember jn what country this is – probably the “independent” inspector was getting drunk instead of inspecting and just stamping whatever was put in front of him… By the way, my understanding is that the gas in the line was not sour yet, but just sweet gas to get the system going – sour gas would only be introduced once thr whole system was up&runninf smoothly due to the dangers of high H2S content…
To CashAllGone: The partners in a development have the right of access to as much information as they need and since Shell is investing billions of dollars of it’s shareholders’ funds in Kashagan, it has a fiduciary duty to ensure an adequate level of oversight. Standard QA/QC and HSE procedures should have prevented the substandard welds from going undetected especially since it was known that the pipeline would be exposed to Hydrogen Sulphide (H2S)
To Relieved: it’s easy to try to live in a digital world – 1 or 0, on or off, while the real world is analog and has a whole spectrum in between… I tries to give you factual information, but I see that it is not worth the effort… Good luck and have fun…
Hi Relieved …on the matter of self serving underlings ..
Shell trying to declare that top management booze senders on Shell Corrib didn’t actually work for Shell ..our lawyer put them right on that …and they backed off and blamed us for carrying out a Shell instruction …integrity zero.
To Cashallgone: Ah yes, failure on this project is the fault of the evil and corrupt garlic eaters. How many times have we heard this same old story – Shell management is the victim of its partners, its contractors, its employees, etc., etc., all of whom are crooked, dishonest and incompetent. Failure at Shell is due to saintly management being duped by evil and self serving underlings and hirelings. Shell needs a new story. This one is worn out.
To Relieved: the issue with the CashAllGone pipeline has nothing to do with material selection. By the way, the project was executed under management of ENI, and these Italiam crooks brought in some incompetent Turkish welders who caused a lot of weld defects, which then were attacked by the gas and caused brittle failure. Shell is only involved in the operational phase, and just is a shareholder for execution. If ENI did not ask help, Shell had very little opportunity to get involved…
This is an obscenity. No ifs. No buts. It’s wrong in every way. Former Shell chief paid £22m over two years despite profit warning
Mr Resolution, Peter Voser 22 Million…it must be by agreement ….can we have our booze money now ….also by agreement and supplied by demand of Shell when you were at the helm?
Several news outlets have reported that the recent production shutdowns at the giant Kashagan field in Kazakhstan are related to H2S corrosion and embrittlement issues in the production pipelines. These should never have arisen. RDS is a partner in that project. At one time RDS had a great deal of technical expertise in dealing with gas and oil containing high concentrations of H2S. In the 1970′s and 1980′s Shell USA set the standards for the design of H2S service equipment in the US and elsewhere. These were known as the Shell NACE standards. What has happened? I take it the bean counters at Shell have disposed of its technical brains trust as an ‘unnecessary’ overhead item. I wonder how many billions that decision will now cost the company? The people running this company today are damned fools.
By definition any court record is in the public domain, so you are perfectly within your rights to publish anything that is available from the court system. Historically, obtaining the information was more difficult and required a visit to the court itself but the same rules applied.
Reference the article relating to Iain Percival that I removed at his request, after I offered to do so if he had any objection to its publication. I want to make it plain that the main focus of the article – the correspondence between Mr Percival and Mr Hans Bouman – both senior people at Shell at the time, was not private mail via their own email addresses, but Shell internal correspondence using their designated Shell email addresses. It is for this reason that it was included by Shell lawyers in Shell discovery documents that formed part of the relevant class action litigation process. It is no secret that this website has thrived over the last decade on publishing Shell internal documents and correspondence, whether leaked, obtained via SAR applications to Shell, or sourced from court records. As the activities of Wikileaks and Edward Snowden have shown, no one using the Internet or any Intranet can ever rely that any electronic communication, however confidential or sensitive, will not end up being published for all the world to see and as we now know, captured, analysed and stored in vast data centres by US and UK spooks.
With unreserved apologies if you HAVE gotten his support: I find it very sad that you would decide to publish old documents from Iain, a man whose integrity and dignity you praise. His career concerns, his job applications etc are not something that should be shown around for cheap amusement, and to keep alive your anti-Shell moaning.
Yes this stuff was already in the public domain, but your explanation for publishing essentially says “it was hard to find, so I’ve made it easy for everyone to gawp at it”.
Take the document down, and show some dignity in return.
Again to repeat, if Iain is happy then I apologise, but if not, please remove it.
REPLY FROM JOHN DONOVAN: Hello Stuart. I sent an email to Iain immediately the article was published. I explained why, for legal reasons, I did not send it to him in advance. I offered to modify or delete the article if he so desired. I have now heard from him and honoured my offer to delete it. Since there was no legal issue in relation to Mr Bouman, I did contact him in advance and obtained his consent to publish. For the record, the article has been on the US Court records system for several years available to anyone willing to purchase a copy. Once it was posted online on 10 October 2007 the entire information, including the email correspondence, was no longer private but put into the public domain as a consequence of the litigation. The same applies even to documents marked strictly confidential. I was under no obligation to contact anyone. I obtained the document completely legitimately and was entitled to publish it and a related article without reference to anyone else. I contacted both gentleman out of respect for them. There are very few current or former Shell people who I would treat similarly.
This is Kenneth Mukoro 50 years of Oil and Gas Exploration without compensation, I really appreciate you bring the truth to the world it did good, I will be willing send some information on the internet of the activities of Shell here in Nigeria, SPDC Completes 8th Nigerian Oil Mining Lease Sale, the said lease expired some years ago but it faied to renew it leaving the communities to suffer the Oil and Gas exploration without compensation.
For those interested in history Finland was part of Mother Russia prior to WW1. Russia lost Finland (or the Bolsheviks gave it away)as part of the peace settlement after the Great Revolution. Who knows ? Maybe Putin will take his emulation of Herr Hitler to an extreme and invade Finland. Stalin tried it before WW2 and got a huge kick in the backside. He then split Poland with Hitler and managed to keep a big chunk of it after the war. However, if it were not for the Germans Stalin would have succeeded in Finland. History can be quite interesting at time. I wonder if anyone out there in BlogLand has access to a psychological profile on Comrade Putin they would like to share (are able to share) with the rest of us ?? I am certain it would be fascinating reading. Putin is quite a throwback to the bad old days.
Shell CANADA and VALERO are in the process of “framing” a sales agreement for all downstream assets
Not hollering (that seems your forte at the moment) Donovan merely making the point that too often you adopt the tabloid approach when reporting on Shell, that is picking and choosing comments from other articles (often from the left wing Guardian newspaper), bundling up those that are most negative about Shell (very often ignoring the positives in the same article) and making it into a dramatic headline about Shell. I realise you have an alleged gripe against Shell but as the years have progressed your venom gets worse and worse, as I say like a cancer. There are many other anti-Shell nodding donkeys that attack them – some with justification. However, as I have asked 3 or 4 of them, some repeatedly, “did you make your concerns known to the company when you were working for them” – none have said yes. Clearly these, like yourself have a gripe (e.g. maybe forced early retirement?) but don’t care to admit it. Some of the ranting about Shell & Corrib, Shell & price fixing still haven’t progressed very far. Why? Perhaps there’s nothing in the story. Your story on Moody-Stuart and the attack on him viz Brent Spar abandonment is yet another example of your tabloid reporting – sure Greenpeace “thought it unwise” but, as is often the case with Greenpeace, based on fictitious numbers – did I see that added in the headline? No. Now breathe deeply and count to 10……..
REPLY BY JOHN DONOVAN:
Basically you accused me of exploiting the Ukrainian situation by linking it to Shell. You came unstuck because of the number of subsequent articles making the same linkage. Shame you won’t admit it. As to what you say about me taking a tabloid approach and focussing on the negative, is it not naive for you to expect a gripe site aimed at Shell to take any other course of action. If you want a positive spin on all things Shell, then visit shell.com and read their press releases. If readers are interested in a counterbalancing approach, then hopefully we provide it. Please also bear in mind that we publish all kinds of articles about Shell, whether containing positive or negative information. I have no objection to being linked to the Guardian. It is as you correctly describe it, a left wing newspaper, but nonetheless an essential read to form a balanced view of world events. Personally, I think its a great newspaper, as are some titles perceived as being at the other end of the political spectrum. No, early retirement was not forced on me. I was never a Shell employee. As to the ongoing investigations into the Corrib project and oil price fixing, only time will tell as to the official outcome. I do know that the allegations made by OSSL are genuine. I cannot say the same about the allegations of oil price fixing. I simply do not know. Turning to Mark Moody-Stuart, I have not made any comment about him for some time. The comments you refer to were made in the Guardian article, not by me. I repeat, you are blaming me for comments I never made. Contrary to your assertion, it was not my story. With regards to who is getting over-excited, other visitors can read your comments and mine and make their own judgement. In my view, you need to spend a little more time pondering on the issues and establishing facts before posting comments.
REPLY BY JOHN DONOVAN:
LondonLad, you started hollering far too quickly about me linking Royal Dutch Shell with unfolding events in Ukraine. My article was the first to do so and others have followed since then, including articles by Reuters, Forbes, The Motley Fool, The Dallas Morning News and The New York Times. I would suggest that before making a fool of yourself again, you should perhaps reflect more carefully on a relevant subject before getting over-excited and posting a comment that backfires so spectacularly.
VALERO is in discussions with SHELL CANADA to acquire downstream assets in 2015
With regard to the latest crisis in the Ukraine – It is true that many pipelines pass through Ukrainian territory. It is also true that the Ukraine is an incredibly rich agricultural region. It is also true that the eastern portion of the Ukraine has a large population of ethnic Russians, a result of many decades of Soviet occupation. If Putin gets a wild hair up his gazoo I would anticipate he would try to annex that portion of the Ukraine east of the Dnieper River. This would give him the Crimean peninsula and the industrial heartland of Ukraine, including the former Soviet closed city of Dnipropetrovsk.This city was a key nuclear weapons, aerospace, and weapons development center, which is why it was closed. It was also the home of Soviet ballistic missile design and fabrication bureaus. The Ukraine was also where many Soviet ICBM’s were based. And now it may be that the Ukraine is sitting on a treasure trove of natural gas. So, there is a reason why Putin (and Shell) has such an attachment to the Ukraine.
LondonLad: So glad you have returned. Your incisive and objective analysis is so ‘original’ and interesting. Keep up the good work !!!
Wow Donovan your latest “article” titled “Royal Dutch Shell uncertainty in Ukraine” clearly shows your hatred of Shell has taken over like a cancer. Trying to attach the name of Shell to everything that springs to mind with this terrible conflict, and previous Shell activities, shows you need to pop along to the clinic for some medication. Reply to LondonLad by John Donovan: You may not like what is stated, but it is all true. I have added several words to the paragraph about Vosers surprise resignation. I am not the only news publisher to see the link between events in Ukraine and the implications for Royal Dutch Shell and energy supplies for the EU. See “Ukrainian Unrest Has These Eight Energy Companies On Edge.” And: This Is The Gas Pipeline Map That Shows Why The Crisis In Ukraine Affects All Of Europe. For the record, I do not hate Shell nor anyone who has ever worked for Shell. I do however believe that it is wrong for Shell to pretend that it operates within an ethical code when that clearly is not the case. In my experience Shell is a ruthless, predatory, unprincipled company that prefers cover-up to transparency. Shell closed its Tell Shell discussion forum years ago – hence your regular postings here, not on shell.com. Finally, I find some of your comments offensive and displaying the characteristics of a troll, since you continue to make personal remarks while hiding behind an alias.
I have been tracking some very odd political contributions from Royal Dutch Shell and Chevron in the Ukraine. Almost seems like they were the big money behind the recent political unrest. Have you guys done the same? I traced two political parties and several prominent politicians to Shell Oil contributions.
It’s ironic that the story of the fire at the Convent refinery is posted adjacent to Bill Campbell’s article about Prelude. If it can happen in a refinery such as Convent or Texas City, it can certainly happen on board a ship.
Just a reply to the so called negativity. I think I stress that without risk taking man would still be living in caves. As far as FLNG I was involved as a Gamechanger member in RTS in the late 90′s in approval of seed funding for the project which I very much want to succeed. The article is essentially about design philosophy related to risk on what are very special industrial plants handling hazardous substances (offshore installations) and the paradox about what would be acceptable in a planning application on land compared to what is done in international waters on the high sea.
I believe the period of highest risk likely to be during the initial start up, chilling the tanks etc, in 24 years of design, construction, commissioning, operation and maintenance of offshore installations I cannot recall everything going by the book, there is always something waiting to bite you on the bum. On a Cormorant Alpha, or a Brent Charlie, there were mechanisms, rapid blow down etc to get rid of the heat energy, but not on Prelude.
If it has a problem over the years my bet would be that it was not related directly to loss of LNG but gas from the front end process or from the supply of gas that routes way back to the utilities to feed the 6 boiler plants. It’s often the less sexy plant that causes the start of the domino effect. For example, in 2004 in Algeria an explosion in a steam boiler triggered a second more massive vapour cloud explosion and fire. The explosion and fire destroyed a portion of the LNG plant causing 27 deaths and 74 injuries ad material damage well outside the plant boundaries. This plant covered several square miles, workers could escape on all points of the compass, but still you have these catastrophic events, not many granted, but if the cat gets out of the bag, it can be very unforgiving, especially on the limited confines of an offshore installation. This is not negativity, its just fact. The risk matrix for Prelude will have taken this into account, so in summary, the potential loss of offshore is higher than for land plants, but even on land loss of life can be considerable. Prelude has 6 boilers, driving steam turbines, with AC Alternators producing some 100 MW, its quite a show on the utility side also.
Very happy to be a Shell shareholder and that Shell ranks top for dividends payouts. Also great to see that Shell ranks in the top 20 brand names in the UK – despite the efforts of negative nodding donkeys on this website.
Believe it or not Peter Rees
was very alarmed about the Corrib story and the cover up did not sit well with him as a man of great integrity .
John ..Re your excellent site we must declare if it wasn’t for you we would have no voice …let me tell you that the power of Shells dirty tricks department in Ireland is a marvellous sight to behold. The two most alarming items being investigated by the police GSOC overseer are Shells demands by CEO no less to falsify a police statement to protect a police officer and Shells covert gifting of alcohol to the police that were ensuring free passage to the Corrib site at land and sea, have for no good explanation dropped off the radar at GSOC ..when we asked the current CEO for a status report on both these very important matters (assuming integrity is still important to Shell) we were told by the door man at Irish HQ to take the matter up with the Minister for Justice as Crothers (CEO) did not know the answer …perhaps John we could ask the Minister through your platform?
Deltaic, is it negativity or a careful assessment by an acknowledged expert who has self-evidently given considerable thought to the relevant issues? We want to move forward but surely with proper consideration of offshore HSE issues, not with a cavalier attitude that costs lives e.g. the “Touch F*** All” approach to employee safety on Shell North Sea platforms exposed by the audit team led by Bill Campbell. Shell routinely falsified maintenance records. Bill’s warnings were not properly acted upon and platform workers lost their lives in a subsequent explosion for which Shell received a record-breaking fine. Please also note that we publish articles/comments from Shell related experts irrespective of whether the content is positive or negative. I hope that Iain Percival, the retired Global Chief Petroleum Engineer of Shell International, may enter this debate as I would be very interested in his comments. As to this website being anti-RDS, I would argue that we have provided over the last year a more accurate picture of Royal Dutch Shell than has been projected by Shell’s own website. We want Royal Dutch Shell executives to act at all times in accordance with Shell General Business Principles, which include the claimed core principles of honesty, integrity, openness and respect for people in all of Shell’s dealings. This is surely not an unreasonable ambition given that the principles were devised by Shell, are promoted by Shell and are supposedly current and binding on all Shell operations everywhere. In other words, we are only asking Shell executives to do what they already claim to be doing. If they had abided by the ethical code the reserves scandal would not have occurred. Finally, we provide the one and only Internet forum for free and open debate about RDS and related matters which incidentally enabled you to express your views. Shell closed down its own forum – Tell Shell – after being caught secretly censoring critical comments, after claiming it was uncensored.
Come on Campbell, if we all adopted your negativity to progress (yes with some associated risks) we’d still be walking with our knuckles dragging along the floor. Fortunately all the attacks from this anti-RDS website won’t stop Shell progressing.
With regard to the Prelude project I suspect that RDS management has forgotten about Murphy’s law. And this project is a ripe target for the laws of Mr. Murphy. He will raise his ugly head, you can bet your life on it. However, I would advise against betting the lives of the crew of this unique mega- barge on it.
Excellent article which very clearly puts the finger on the sore spot! As a seasoned and most senior HSE auditor you are in the best position to reflect on these points. If I still would be working I would make your article compulsory reading for any HSE or Audit course. Budding HSE and audit professionals can learn from you.
After all my years in Shell, I know of no projects in our business that have not suffered from pinhole leaks, corrosion, faulty software, poor or wrongly executed design and maintenance, etc etc. Any of these occurrences should be de-escalated quickly if the proper systems and processes are in place. Yet, things do go wrong and on a vessel like the Prelude, the potential for rapid escalation of the problem is real.
The PLL appears to have been massaged low enough on paper and so the decision makers can wash their hands in innocence if something goes wrong. With a project of this magnitude and complexity (a Moonshot or an Elephant in Shell speak?), there is only one spot where the ultimate decision to proceed is taken and that is right at the very top.
Shell used to take pride in the fact that if a project did not pass the business principles, it just would not get done. The Prelude project does not involve corrupt governments or pressure from the USA to not get involved. So the top of Shell can relax, nothing stands in the way of their business principles anymore, only some mere technical challenges. However, the business principles cover more than corruption and environmental issues. Health and Safety are also very important matters in these principles.
Perhaps it should have been decided to call this a stranded asset and not book the reserves. But we all know how important booking of reserves is!
The top of Shell consists of very smart people so they must have considered this. And then to trust the advice of the technical side after all the problems over the past 10-15 years with major projects, as frequently reported on this site of Donovan, is – to put it mildly – quite courageous. Maybe they felt like Kennedy: ‘We choose to go to the moon in this decade and do the other things, not because they are easy, but because they are hard, ’. But Kennedy was a politician with different goals. Politicians do not drill wells and develop oilfield projects!
Or Shell should have come clean and admit that this is a trial and first of a series where we will learn from mistakes in order to develop otherwise stranded assets. Now that would be real courageous!
To Bill C: You wonder if at board level the risks of Prelude are understood? Must be rhetorical, because you know as well as I do that management at the top is mainly by sound bites and assurances by other lower ranking staff members. Each level going up has a benefit in portraying the project in the best possible light. Safety concerns are at best noted down but “extreme views” are never tolerated. The principle of ALARP is one of the most misused safety concepts around. It is fair to assume that many people worked parts of Prelude and that components are reasonably safe. It is also fair to assume that nobody understands the total aggregate risk of all these components together. Irrespective of all the massive QRAs produced. Prelude is a fantastic undertaking, let’s hope it is not a similar tale as Babel tower, overreaching and the end of a huge empire.
Nexus – You are essentially correct. Actually, RDS management’s first obligation is good stewardship of their shareholders investment. That is what they are hired and paid to do. That is life in the real world. As long as management does not break the law then there can be no real complaints. Political policy issues are matters for national governments. If RDS gets in bed with, say the Iranians, then that is another matter. Iran is effectively at war with Israel, and management is ‘aiding and abetting’. Like it or not. At that point management risks some sort of retaliation. That retaliation can come in any form – political, economic, military, etc. Talking those sorts of unnecessary risks is most probably not very good stewardship of shareholder assets, legal or not.
Earthquake in the middle of the Bristol Channel – must be the result of fracking in the vicinity……. oh no of course its hundreds of miles from any fracking facility!! By the way “Relieved” you really do twaddle about RDS being anti-semitic by linking it to Woodside. Nothing to correlate there, just a very sensible business decision.
Relieved – don’t think there is much to choose between all of them. Israel has treated the civilians in the West Bank appallingly. Saudi operates a Sharia law that has little focus on justice and Qatar likes to support radical groups like the Muslim Brotherhood. When you add the ego-politics on top it becomes even harder to work out where to invest and where not for your shareholders who want a return.
To answer the question – ‘Is RDS still anti-semitic ??’ you need only watch how RDS management reacts to Woodside Pet.’s decision. We all know RDS behaved shamelessly on this question during the 1930′s and 1940′s. One might argue they were looking down the wrong end of a gun barrel at that time. Literally. Today that is not the case. Given that the Saudi’s are their business partners in Motiva, and that in Qatar they are joint business partners with the local government one might say they are looking down the wrong end of an ‘economic’ gun barrel today. Ho Hum. Life is so full of difficult choices. You can either do the right thing or the wrong thing. In Shell’s case, how Shell reacts will be determined by the quality of senior management’s character. And I think we all know that, in general, that is not worth a bucket full of warm spit. Ho Hum. What is new ?
@Raymond: my commiserations! I escaped the open offices until my retirement. Each time rooms needed to be shared from a certain jobgroup level I made a promotion and had a room to myself. I remember that in 1977 or thereabouts Don Schaefer was the great mover and shaker behind the introduction of open offices. Everyone was against and revolts were imminent, so he lined up a fact finding team of 7 senior people (all jg 1-2 department heads) plus the junior project engineer (jg5) who had to execute the plan, to visit several open offices in Germany. Except for the project engineer they all travelled first class as was the rule on business travel for jg3+. They came back and had to say it was good, provided you built the offices first class. Otherwise it would be a disaster. (They all lied, but arms were twisted…).
In the end BSP succumbed and had a disastrous open office. Rats running along the beams in the ceiling. Few people could concentrate on the work. Managers had their own office.
All capitulated to the gurus and consultants who kept selling the open office space. Then came the roaring 90s and SIEP went open office. Even jg UN (Tiny Tim, may his smoking soul RIP) were sitting in open offices. At around the same time Shell started to go quickly down the drain. Could there be a correlation with open offices?
Sickness leave goes up sharply in open offices. They are good for teamwork in some industries where people have to share ideas and emotions like advertising firms or media companies. It is fine for a short while when people have to get to know each other. But once you start to do some complex engineering and thinking, you need a quiet environment. For HR it is fine, this is simple and routine work.
The Norwegians understood it, they had nice open plan offices and for each a very small office you could sit in if you needed to think.
I genuinely feel sorry for all the people who are forced to do intelligent work in a substandard open office environment.
Poor Raymond, we have been sitting in open office for more than two years. A JG B is also sitting next to us. All in the pretext of cost saving!
Well we moved into the new buildings in Houston. What an utter disappointment. If this is the new face of Shell (small cubes, no privacy and poor working conditions ) then I can see Shell having problems attracting top people. How many top students want to work in a 6×6 cube while the head of HR lives in his glass palace? Nice one Bruce
To Kangaroo: How perceptive. It is more than an ‘impression’.
There was a day, long ago, when Shell USA had talented management and staff. That day is now in the dark and dim distant past, just a fading memory and the stuff of myth and legend.
Looks like Shell Canada is secretly trying to sell its RETAIL sites to a 3rd party grocery chain.
“Relieved” , in Australia, we don’t have the impression the Shell boys know what they are doing. In Arrow, everything they touch, the cost more than double. They seem to be using offshore deep water technology to drill simple onshore well. It’s almost three years since they acquired Arrow, they are still not producing. No wonder, their Chinese Partner is getting impatient.
I don’t agree that the US is ‘over-drilled’ and ‘over – fracked’. What I do know is that Shell USA was asleep at the switch and missed out on the best tight gas and oil plays. By the time they woke up the best acreage had all been leased. So, all Shell could do is rummage about for the scraps. And that acreage is indeed over-drilled and over-fracked given that there is little to exploit.
Old EP Hand is spot on. When I was with Shell USA the most remarkable thing about the company was how quickly the best and brightest were identified and marginalized by mediocre management. These talented people left the company almost as quickly. And the rest is history.
EP Old hand, you said it all. It is the basic strategy of divide and rule. It is also threatening to have someone smarter than you.
Londonlad and Asia Dragon:
Perhaps I can add my two pennies worth on the debate of diversity.
Asia Dragon is right when he speaks of the Chinese (and a small portion of Indians). They are as a group the smartest and hardest working people in the world. But they should realise there are many that cannot keep up with their pace and attitude.
And the lad (welcome back!) is right on Din Megat. I know him very well and he used to be a really nice person and able engineer. But then there was pressure from the authorities to promote locals. He seemed a safe bet but really had reached his limit as a Chief PE. He knew this himself and wanted more time before promotions. But this was not allowed so he went into survival mode and started bleating MBA jargon and had no time anymore for his underlings. The same can be said for Joshua Udofia. Nice guy and acceptable since he was from a small tribe. And what about George Omene, as a junior engineer he kept the oil flowing during the civil war. Nice guy but not really an intellectual and everyone who knows him knows also all the stories… All true too.
Before Shell talked about diversity, we used to really have diversity of thought and behaviour. Just look at some of the characters in KSEPL. Totally
unmanageable, but often with great ideas that led to breakthroughs. And we were leading the whole EP business in technology.
Then came the period where diversity became fashionable and it went out of the window. Token women (full of testosterone) blazed the way in (and soon out again). Genuinely good locals like Tan Ek Kia, Abdallah Lamki, Egbert Imomoh just were not allowed to reach the top. Lame excuses like: ‘not allowed by their government’ were often used. The American managers knew how to handle diversity: as long as it looked OK and you could manipulate them it was fine. Anyone with original ideas was removed quickly. Few countries are as hypocritical as the USA so they are forgiven. It is in their genes.
And from the outside things started to look more diverse in numbers. Women, other nationalities etc etc. But they all have the same mindset and diversity of thought is efficiently repressed. The fact that HR staff, Legal people and imported politicians are making careers is meaningless in a highly technological company.
You get the Hofmeisters of this world talking about Exploration and Production as if he knows anything about this! And please let nobody start explaining to me that public relations is now so important you cannot leave it to engineers.
Start with getting your marbles together and deliver first class technology and projects on time and within budget. Doing so makes government relations relatively easy. And shareholders will be happy too! Failing to do so soon leads to a downward spiral. I fear we are witnessing this right now.
Read the most recent comments about the Prelude. The comments about ‘rogue’ waves was interesting. I don’t know what the data for SE Asia are, but I do know that rogue waves in excess of 35 meters have been documented in the North Sea. There is plenty of data available from some of the oil/gas production platforms located there. I also know the US Navy has compiled data about rogue waves for various locations about the world. Someone might try contacting the US Office of Naval Research or the National Oceanographic and Atmospheric Admin. to see if that data is available.
For all you Prelude fans out there I have a bit of sobering information. The reason the US Navy does not built aircraft carriers any larger than they do is because they don’t know how to do it. The issues for the Navy are dynamics, i.e., shock and vibration, and long term hull maintenance. Hulls have a service life that is fatigue related. The harder you work a ship the shorter the hull life. If the US Navy doesn’t know how to built mega-ships what makes Shell think a South Korean shipbuilder and consultants know how ????
Personally, I think the real issue with the Prelude is long term maintenance. RDS has shown a predisposition to get cheap when equipment begins to wear out. We have seen this in the North Sea and elsewhere. However, fixed platforms usually don’t sink. There is a good chance RDS can put the Prelude on the bottom if they play their ‘Touch F** All’ games with maintenance on this vessel.
Kookaburra, I fully agree with you. We don’t see enough of diversity in Shell. It should not be just lip service on “diversity” referring just to Female gender or number game. We need to see more Aussies too. There is a general tendency to ignore talent from developing countries. After all most of the revenue and growth are in these regions.
“Asia Dragon” are you deliberately trying to bait the readers of this forum? Did you have a particular group of Asians in mind? More Asians at the top doesn’t guarantee any greater success in the running of the Shell business. Rather it is potentially limiting. This is why there is a need for TRUE diversity that brings a difference of background, skills and opinion to review, challenge and make informed decisions. I’ve personally watched the business go through phases where suddenly all the hires are Indian, or Asian or other target groups, and suddenly yes we may have more Indians or Asians in the organisation, but really what flows is that we end up with is “Like employing like”. We see a club of a different flavour formed. Generalising that Asians “can do it better” does not encourage robust discussion and challenge. You are merely advocating putting a different group of like minds together….There are a lot of under utilised pockets of talent in the Shell organisation and suggesting focusing on Asians is an insult to all the other talent in the company who bring or have the potential to bring value to the table.
Well. ” LondonLad” , the Economist article relates the business environment and Asian crisis created by the Western World. It also demonstrates the flexibility and robustness on the Asian businessman in time of change. By the way, It’s in their blood. There are more Asian Talent in Shell. Just make more use of them in different level. You will see a great difference!
Well “Asia Dragon” lets hope these Asian’s you are pontificating about do better than those mentioned in this article :
The last high up Asian within the Shell organization, the Malaysian Din Megat, hardly covered himself in glory.
Congratulations to Donny Ching for his appointment to be Legal Director, as a member of EC. At long last, the first Asian in the EC. Looks like Ben V B is serious about changing. He is bringing his DS A Team closer to him. Put more Asian in top management, one can guarantee Shell will quickly turnaround and run like real business.
Relieved, that Metocean data is available from OTC Paper 10791 at http://royaldutchshellplc.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/OTC.pdf
Those interested in the design criteria for the Prelude LNG barge might want to contact:
Brian Casey – United Kingdom | LinkedIn
Chester, United Kingdom – Senior Naval Architect at Shell
Brian Casey. Senior Naval Architect at Shell … Prelude FLNG. World’s first … Based on ABS Safehull ‘A’ Analysis and Bureau Veritas 3D FEM / Fatigue Analysis. This fellow apparently works for RDS and was involved in the design of the Prelude.
To Outsider: That depends on the wind intensity and sea state.
With the massive loss in US , Shell should be selling off US not Australia unless they want to offset the loss from other countries.
Relieved: I presume the Prelude will be free to swing around the turret to head into wind – the topsides rise 93m above sea level so there is plenty of area exposed to the wind. However what happens when the wind and sea are from different directions, as would be expected during the passage of a cyclone?
The freeboard on the Prelude is too large to allow the ‘barge’ to remain tethered at its anchors for and aft in a ‘large blow’. Those people will need to allow the vessel to swing into the wind, otherwise they could very well have a SERIOUS problem on their hands. Given that the vessel has no propulsion it is doubtful Shell will want to tow it to a safe harbor to wait out a major storm. I don’t know what the draft on that darn thing will be fully loaded but I suspect they would need a deep water port for that scenario. Just remember what happened to BP’s state of the art production platform ‘Thunderhorse’. BP was lucky it did not sink.
John, on your article on Prelude FLNG, we wonder who will be staying and working there. We suppose Majority will be Aussies. Why have they not started recruiting? Or have we missed this.
Mr Abdul Ghafoor, Your company is very lucky to get rid of David Greer. We have a lot of big spender and Mr. “Do nothing” at high places in a Shell. We can’t get rid of them. In fact we have to pay them a healthy sum to get them off our back. See how good is our Shell Hr system.
M.S. Al-Suwaidi Industrial Services Co. Ltd.:
This is to inform you that Mr David Greer, our previous CEO, contract was terminated last year. He spent too much money, was very expensive and could not do anything in the company. He was yelling at employees and insulting all the time and was like dictator. We are happy that he has left !
RELATED: Former Shell exec David Greer on the poach
Kangaroo, I agree that there seems to be a “short term” focus rather than a long term view of the Shell Brand in Oz. It feels a bit like hocking your possessions down at the pawn shop to pay the bills. Upstream projects and LNG are clearly Shell’s current darlings, where until recently there has been little mention of cost control and spending has been liberal. I would like to think the government would be smart enough to place conditions on the upstream licenses to stop company’s from being able to just “dig it up and ship it out” so to speak without giving something back, particularly when they are essentially a vertically integrated business and it is not an unreasonable expectation. Of course, this is unlikely to happen. Unfortunately, I personally felt the final death knell for Shell Downstream in Australia was sounded when Geelong went on the market. Around the same time the term “world class terminal” was dropped for Clyde. So far the only thing that has surprised me is the speed with which the rest of the business appears to have ended up on the auction block with it. In terms of social performance and sustained development, I am sure we will continue to see this message, but there will be a lot of smoke and mirrors along with it to divert attention to that which suits the end objectives.
Kookaburra, Well said. To aggravate the matter, all the corporate overhead are not recoverable, therefore directly out from the profit margin. This include Simon Henry’s package. We wish BVB would hold on, re evaluate and if necessary selectively dispose off assets in Australia. Selling the whole downstream business is a strategic disaster which Shell will regret. Shell is still making good money in Australia. What happen to all the Social performance and sustain development which openly bragged about.
Kangaroo- As you rightly point out and anybody with any kind financial education realises, in a consolidated balance sheet it is very easy to move profits to those parts of the business where it is more advantageous or the company chooses to do so. We all know of the massive overheads from Corporate head offices that are charged out to the various parts of the business that see none of the benefits. Take these out of the equation and what a different scenario things can be. I saw some positive articles out of Stanlow after purchase by Essar who stripped out the fat and recognised the strategic importance of the site. I will acknowledge that this too could be spin. The constant negatives turned into positives. This prolonged and constant negativity (and I am talking many years of selling the message that they are poor performers for some parts of the business) is demotivating to employees and counter productive. In terms of the sale of Australian Downstream Assets, the Aust Fin Review seems to be pretty well on the money so far. This suggests that there is either someone leaking the information, or the leak itself is a deliberate part of the strategy.
Lots of talk about BVB “cleaning up the mistakes” of the past ..we can assure you Voser set out to sort the Corrib debacle involving gifting police alcohol, caving in to landowner demands for separate deals, but he was misled by the same “bad apples” that broke all the rules in the first place and failed to sort it out ..despite his AGM promises …..start your clean up in Mayo BVB .
Do not understand the linkage on integrity part. But just wonder why others can run petrol stations profitably but not Shell. One should keep it if it is giving marginal contributions. Think of the Shell brand and big picture.
Your not wrong Kangaroo.
Start with the Business integrity department BID.
About as useful as an ashtray on a motor bike, no use whatsoever. Integrity zero in Shell.
I think divesting assets in Australia is a big mistake. It would be better to rationalize and lean them. Otherwise Shell will have to buy back in few years time. The right place to cut is in the central offices in Holland where many fat cats ( some pigs ) are located, doing nothing but traveling around the globe creating work not generating any revenue. They know who you are. You can cut at least 50% without affecting the business.
John, Shell still hiding behind a wall of silence regarding the abuse of a local vendor OSSL, defending misinformation and lies BvB will do well to ask for the facts and make a judgement, if Shell are to embark on a new way forward, people are disgusted by their actions here.
John, These Shell mess do not happened overnight. It must be planned and well timed. Hope Simon Henry is not making Ben V B a scapegoat. But then we won’t be surprised as he has done to many of his previous bosses include Sir Phil W.
The following article published by American Thinker Blog is interesting because it apparently gives estimates of original oil in place for Shell’s Burger (I presume) prospect. Oil was discovered in the original drilling program in the 1980′s. Recoverable oil would be on the order of 4-5 billion bbls. At $100/bbl that makes the gross value of the recoverable oil on the order of $400 – $500 billion US. About 1/2 trillion US$.By the way, the USG’s royalty on this will be at least 12.5%. That is $50 – $60 billion US$. This is not chump change, and it is why Shell will eventually get to drill this prospect. Add in a few more discoveries and it is clear why oil and gas exploration will continue on Alaska’s North Slope. People need to prepare for that eventuality. The article in question is headlined “Shell Cancels Chukchi Sea Drilling” Extract: President Obama boasted in his State of the Union address that “over the last three years, we’ve opened millions of new acres for oil and gas …
I hope Super Ben quickly disband the Superbuckets and revert back to Country model . It really confused the key stakeholders big time.
Fully agree with EP old hand. In addition , Shell US is bleeding big time in unconventional. Poor cost management and over commiting way beyond their authority. Ranking them as no. 13 in US is over generous. Wish Ben can act fast before he gets suck into these shit.
@ Mystic Meg –
Obviously they are all to blame, the amounts wasted are beyond the discretionary commitment any director may make. And they all are very clever and trained to ask the right questions. But politics have prevented them from doing sound business. Clearly me first, Shell later.
And I remember very well what we were taught during a lecture on my first course many moons ago. An old and slightly bitter manager told us: ‘You are about to start a career in Shell. I will give you two bits of advice: 1 write many reports or ensure your name goes on these reports. And 2, one day you will screw up. Just make sure that if you screw up, you do it big time. That way you can blame others and prevent from being fired.’
To me it appears that Marvin, Bichsel, Odum, Brinded, Voser etc etc may have had a similar lecture by the same man. And they, being most clever, listened well and remembered the wise lessons…. They went a bit overboard with the magnitude of the screw-up I dare say.
But I surely hope that van Beurden has the balls to fire Bichsel and Odum. Preferably publicly for gross negligence. I can never prove it obviously, but I would not be surprised if Odum’s friends and family have become very rich in gold plated contracts that are now being written off as bad investments. They have the brains, the staff and the technology to interfere timely, but they chose to look the other way. They are all guilty as hell and they know that everyone knows!!
BBC America is reporting this morning that Shell is halting its Alaskan exploration program to cut costs and realign the company in a more profitable mode of operation. I suspect Shell USA management is getting horsewhipped over this, and rightly so. Projects like this are not ‘suspended’ without much deliberation and grinding of teeth.
Who will be the scapegoat(s) for Vosers mistakes?
Will be an interesting 10 days.
Pundit is 100% correct about the HR system, and I would suggest it goes one step further. HR, despite losing its staff to offshore positions still dictates a lot of the policy but without accountability. Take the latest office design fiasco where we will offer new staff a small box to work in but wonderful non work areas ! Result nobody sits at their desk and everyone does less work but we collaborate ! How on earth can you attract the top staff to work in an environment such as that. Sitting on school meal type benches is not the best environment to work. I’ve been here for 5 years and it won’t be another 5 before I go, this is just terrible and HR think it is good with fanfares and trumpets! I don’t think so. The good old boys will leave in droves and there will be a lack of experienced staff in Shell. Sad really when you look at the history.
Old EP hand is right: until 1996, there was an HR system that was the envy of the world. Then Personnel department became HR and everything was replaced by the latest US nonsense. Shell People (HR online) was indeed a Hofmeister baby. Cost overruns were more than 100% and it had an unacceptable audit opinion: the rest is history. People are Shell’s most valuable asset but Hofmeister and Mitchell are more interested in managing their careers than those of the Shell staff, who operate and develop the fields!
For BG ‘downunder’: In the US at least one state has eliminated this sort of conduct. The state of Maryland prohibits the majors from owning retail service stations directly. They are all independently owned by small businessmen. There are plenty of them. But not a one is owned by an oil company. The scheme works well. Something to think about.
Have Shell been involved in stealing service station businesses and landholdings anywhere else in the world ? It has been done in Adelaide South Australia with the help of the Torrens land system and corrupt government officials in charge of the land register. Dead service stations right across Adelaide where they got caught. Almost a total shut down. Comment by Shell lawyer to me “women can’t run them…they take them away from women”. Privately owned sites, independent, branded Shell. The Dealer dies and Shell steal the site holus bolus from the dead dealer and his widow by fraud and claim it is theirs. You can ask the Premier (leader) of the State of South Australia Jay Weatherill. Feel free to contact him at http://www.premier.sa.gov.au/index.php/contact
John, we worked hard every year in the offshore platform but does it really matter. There is no correlation of Shell business performance to hard work and production. Can someone please help explain.
RDS might want to contact Warren Buffet at Berkshire Hathaway to see if he might be interested in a pipeline deal. BH bought Enron’s gas pipeline system when it went on the block 10+ years ago. However, Buffet is a very smart investor and RDS won’t be able to bamboozle him into paying more than the investment is actually worth.
I used to be very proud of Shell twenty years ago..but now I dare not say I work in Shell even though I am a shareholder. It’s not only fat and slow, it is jungle of internal processes, hiding behind HSE, high overhead with no accountability. It is symptomatic of a company going to be winding down. I hope Ben can turn the dinosaur around. First he has to change out few top leaders who has been around for sometimes.
I almost hear myself speaking. I remember how Hofmeister during his introduction rounds told everyone that Shell had the best HR system in the world. I know for EP that each International Staff and each local staff with a certain potential was discussed formally once per year in The Hague with three independent parties present. The godfather, the line (often the MD of the opco) and a HR representative from central office. Each staff received on average 1-2 minutes time. A lot of homework had been done beforehand obviously. And then a 1 or 2 line statement was kept on file, CEP established and development options agreed.
Then some idiot wanted change and Open Resourcing was introduced against advice of many, but hey, these were the roaring 90s….. It was the ideal tool for Hofmeister to wreck the best HR system in the world, introduce his own (american) lackeys and the rest is as they say history. This was the one job he did well: break a great system!
To break something is easy and can be done quickly. To build a good system needs time, dedication and good leadership. None of this is available anymore.
For ‘Old EP Hand’: I remember the ‘old pre-1990′ days well. Like I said, Shell is not the company it used to be. Americans in Shell are, in general, too provincial to be running an international operations. Pecten (Shell USA’s old international arm) was run very well in comparison to Shell USA’s domestic operations. About 4 layers of management was missing. And it was organized much differently than Shell USA. However, after Marlin Downy left (he was forced out over a refusal to ‘reorganize’ along the Shell USA model) it went to hell fast, like the rest of the company. It became bloated with too many people who didn’t know what they were doing.
For ‘NOT PETER REES’: I worked for Williams when I was a young engineer at Shell. He had a great educational pedigree but had no intuitive feel for E&P. As a physicist he didn’t understand the way the ‘E’ part of the company worked and operated. He started in petrophysics and blew some evaluations that upon further evaluation by other people a couple of years later turned out to be big gas discoveries. But he was well connected politically, and managed to bury that performance failure, and the rest is history. It makes sense he ended up on the downstream side of the business. That was where he could do the least harm. I am not certain how much good he actually did for Shell. There is a very good reason why he left Shell ‘early’.
Well Mr Peter Rees QC exits Shell. After Mr Peter Voser and Mr Mark Williams. I wonder what they all have in common?
Agree with Old EP Hand that the average quality of the people in Shell has gone down over the years; in my view directly correlated to the increasing prominence of an HR function that systematically fails to understand that the costs of attracting, training and retaining high quality E & P staff is (and always will be) insignificant compared to the costs of drilling and completion of oil wells or the building pipelines and other facilities in E&P projects. The real value of having high quality staff and equally competent and brutally honest middle management will manifest itself most painfully when the expected returns from projects do not to materialise as these projects encounter set-backs that outside the far too narrow and optimistic uncertainty and risk profiles.
The proposals to fund Shell Oil’s shale oil and Alaskan debacles might have originated within the US, but the funding of the proposals would have required approval from other Executive Directors before being agreed. All of the Executive Directors therefore share responsibility for the losses. Those Executive Directors with an E&P background (Bichsel, Brown, Brinded) should have been able to ask the appropriate questions before giving approval for expenditure of some $30 billion, much of which may never be recovered.
Stuart is wright: Andy was never in any way involved with the America’s. this sort of statement undermines the credibility of Old Hand’s posting. Let’s wish Andy a speedy recovery. Nobody can wish him anything else. He may not be the right man for the job, but we surely wish him good health. Watch Wetselaar: and that is a comment to Shell and all readers
Until the early 90s Shell Oil had many great designers and other top professionals. They were second to none when it came to HPHT welldesigns (and offshore development, geophysics etc). Also very pragmatic and hands-on experience. I remember Leo Broussard, genuine good old boy. He could smoke a big cigar and drink whiskey without taking the cigar from his mouth. But he knew more about well and completion design than anyone else in the world. And he was always willing to share his knowledge. Just not interested in making a career, his passion was designing complicated completions! Shell International thought in those days a 10K well was high pressure. At this time Shell Oil was already working on 25k and 30k wells. Shell Oil was not so good at deepwater stuff in hostile environments. They, like all americans, relied too much on API standards, the lowest common denominator they could get away with. The North Sea set the world standards and took the lead.
Then came the roaring 90s. Everything had to be done faster, shareholder value, bonuses, do like ENRON etc etc. This led to an influx of fast talking americans with me first, rest later attitude and the contractor will fix it. Scandals like the Tejas Gas disaster (carefully kept away from the press) and other bad things emerged (just check out the Donovan website). Phil Carrol was quietly removed about 9 months later for his role in Tejas Gas. He presided over the meeting that approved the purchase during the one time there was no rep from Shell International. Neither Herkstroter nor Moody-Stuart could attend so he moved knowing full well that Herkstroter et all were vehemently opposed. Shell Oil became a bust or boom company.
Shell Oil always has been pragmatic with a can-do attitude. But doing first thinking later and this does not work in extreme environments and pushing the design envelope. They put top people (of the old school) and formed Aera which performed brilliantly and revived Bakersfield.
And the fast talking americans then swarmed out over Shell International and changed the culture. Me first, screw the rest. The rest is history….. Do not make the mistake to assume all americans fall in the fast talking category, I have met several genuinely capable and hardworking people from Shell Oil who put the company first and the rest later. But they were a minority.
I find it interesting that Shell USA isn’t making money. Up until 1989 Shell USA had never posted an operating loss for any given year. Never. The operating performance since then has been spotty. Any one care to comment on the problems?
Old Hand, not quite accurate. Andy has/had nothing to do with the US Shale or Alaskan businesses. His role in Upstream International has nothing to do with Upstream Americas – where both these things reside.
I will say I’ve met Maarten a few times and he’s a massively smart guy, who had already been given a line business to lead and I suspect will be possibly more capable than his boss.
The lame being led by the blind: So the shock of not becoming number one was too big for Andy Brown. I wish him a speedy recovery and thereafter he should go spend quality time with his family and enjoy his earnings. On shell.com I read the following: ‘During Andy’s recuperation and until his return to work, Maarten Wetselaar, Executive Vice President Integrated Gas and former head of finance for Upstream International, will serve as acting Upstream International Director, in addition to carrying out his regular duties.’ Wetselaar is no doubt a brilliant finance man. But a finance man is really a failed banker, not good enough for the real thing… And this brilliant fellow will ‘lead’ the whole upstream as a part-time job? Has Shell not learned from the past what happens if you put beancounters in charge? Apparently not. Andy should be sent home, he has only achieved very poor results (Alaska, shaleoil USA, etc). And for this job one needs to be in top condition AND have an EP background. There are some people with the right qualifications who could do this job much better. And they are in Shell too! And it certainly is not Odum, another one who needs to be sacked. Van Beurden does not know about EP, it was not in his portfolio so he did not interfere… So the upstream is now like the lame being led by the blind. Unbelievable. I can only wish them good luck.
PetroChina top management are been reprimanded for some bad deals include Arrow. Is Shell doing anything. It’s all a con job by ex Dart Energy. Wonder who did the due diligence.
Marginal tax rate at Groningen is 85%, and RDS share is only 30%. Unlikely Groningen production level is a big profitability issue.
Sources tell me that Shell Canada’s Retail assets are being shopped around.
My guess is that Shell’s bottom line is going to take a hit of over $1bn per year with the reduction in Groningen output – does anyone have the data for a more accurate calculation?
Ben, if it is true Andy is leaving, bring an Asian to the CMD to make a real difference.
I am no longer posting comments submitted by “Kris” as the recent ones do not even mention Shell. This forum is for adult discussion about Shell and related matters including this website. Trolls are not welcome.
Andy Brown decent bloke in the loop for all Corrib gifting matters. Was he disgusted as well as Crothers Rees and Nolan?
First Voser, then Rees and now Brown…would the last one to leave the CMD please remember to turn out the lights?
John, powerful shareholders approached OSSL after they had addressed the AGM last year. They demanded to know more about our submission to Voser. They then advised that we scream the house down until the promised resolution was in place stating that it did not sit well with them what was happening. Voser sent a man who demanded more proof. He was offered a walk through of the evidence …but declined stating he had “heard enough to form his opinion” and that to visit the evidence would only bring further annoyance to the police and the landowners who were the recipients of Shells largesse at OSSL expense. Que letter four weeks later from Shell no new evidence was presented by OSSL to support their claims. Shareholders please take note .
I know that RDS fans are loyal to the point of absurdity, and are immensely proud of the fact that RDS is supposedly one of the world’s largest and best managed (according to legend) corporations, so this suggestion will be lost on them. However, for those seeking a sound investment I suggest you compare the asset valuation and the growth in that valuation of RDS to Berkshire Hathaway. I think you will be surprised. Cheers.
London Lad misses the point, as usual. The expression “Lions led by donkeys” was coined during the First World War (supposedly by members of the German general Staff) and was a commentary on the perceived quality of British commanders versus that of the soldier in the trenches. A comparison with the situation in Shell is self evident. There was no attempt to compare either Shell or this website with the First World War.
Wow what timing, thanks for the warning. Just got an email from RvP saying would I like to play for MU but I said I’m too busy waiting to replace BvB at RDS. Sorry about the acronyms – guess most of the contributors on this site must be used to them by now from the Yanks, Aussies & Mick’s etc. Someone (Relieved, Outsider or some other introvert) asked why I’d not been commenting – soooooo many more important things than this nodding donkey website to keep reviewing.
P.S. “shellwaarbenjijnu” please don’t try and compare / contrast this website / Shell with the First World War. A very cheap comparison and talking point.
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With the anniversary of the First World War this year, the expression “lions led by donkeys” comes to mind.
Unfortunately, there are very few, experienced, motivated, knowledgeable workhorses left in what was a great company built on a bedrock of serious technical expertise and exposure to the global operations.
These days, to get ahead you need to be a whizz bang excel and power point jockey and preferably to have spent as little time as possible “out there” where oil and gas are found, developed and produced.
Rijswijk knows best – just trust the omnipotent, sprawling, process bound Projects and Technology organisation.
Giving the profit warning is not what Ben may or may not have wanted but it’s a requirement from the stock exchanges to share material information as soon as it is available. So no need to speculate around that. There are much more interesting things going on
Ben needs to get a handle on things starting with the abuse suffered by the vendor in Ireland whilst “assisting” Shell to progress the Corrib shareholders witnessed Vosers false promise of resolution, over to you Ben
dutchdude is probably right; neglected for years (as Peter & friends lined their pockets) and now badly needed to pull the top heavy cart out of the mire, it’s the last remaining workhorses that will probably get the blame. Let’s hope that Ben will turn around this mentality and save this great company (and my investment in it).
Voser’s legacy. Complete decimation of knowledge and technical ability (Transition 09!!!), and now a collapse of profit. Probably another signal to chop more workhorses. Try to find those staff now-a-days in Shell, totally impossible. I agree with Relieved, although very sad to have been witness to this process.
While it is true that many contributors to this site have worked for RDS in the past, many (if not most) gave up and left the company after it was clear that the company was in the hands of mediocre management (myself included). Shell at one time was a well run company, and it was fun to work for it. But not any more. The ‘old Shell’ is long dead and gone, and the future for the ‘new Shell’ does not look bright.
John, how often have our directors in the past claimed huge successes in times of high oilprice and then modestly (in small print and low voice) stated that whatever they do will only be visible some 10 years later?
In bad times they always reminded us in fat print and booming speeches that it was not their fault and inferred it was the result of bad decisions some 10 years earlier. But from now on things would be fine, we would change and all would be well and they could still claim huge bonusses.
But let’s check back, who were in charge some 10 years ago? YES: the bully astronaut who had seen the future and liked it and the brain with the beard who predicted Shell would be producing 6-6.5 million BOE in 2014. (I believe he is now trying to make the trains in the UK run on time.)
I guess there is no real chance they hand back there ill gotten bonusses? Or give these to charity?
It is clear your job is not finished!
BVB says “not what he expected of Shell “OSSL echo those words.Will BVB order a fresh look at this damnable situation ?.OSSL
travelling to meet with new CEO to demand action .
I noticed the Aljazeera America article. Once derided for their slanted news reporting these people have done an about face and have become a serious news network. They are not yet on par with BBC but they are getting there. The 5 major US news networks are now second class to these folks.
As owner and editor you have the ultimate authority over what is and is not published on this site.
Given that Shell frequently tell their employees that they are supporting spooks through their work, surely Shell and the spooks must be on the same side? REPLY BY JOHN: It ain’t necessarily so. Spooks and investigators, one representing the US government have contacted me in the recent past in connection with certain matters relating to Shell. I supplied the US government with confidential information that had been leaked to me. On the other hand, I am also aware that Shell has sought advice about me and this website from the US government and from a specialist unit in Pittsburgh partly staffed and funded by the FBI. This was partly in regard to the leaks, which have caused consternation at Shell. On one occasion for example, I was supplied with a Shell database containing contact information – email addresses, phone numbers etc for 177,000 Shell employees and contractors. The leaks continue to this day.
Given RDS management’s taste for engaging in alleged criminal activity of various sorts it would be prudent for RDS management to presume that ALL of their telecom traffic was being monitored and intercepted by US and Brit spooks. RDS engages in quasi-legal and alleged illegal operations and so those folks under contract to RDS to provide services to those ends would also be prudent if they assumed they too were being monitored. Happy days to ALL involved !! Comment by John Donovan. The word “alleged” appears twice in this posting, on both occasions inserted by me.
It’s curious that the amount being raised by asset sales ($30bn) corresponds precisely to the figures quoted for Shell Oil’s investments in unconventionals ($25bn) and the Arctic ($5bn)
Fully agree with ” Relieved”statement. We have worked with Shell US management, there is no sense of urgency and job levels are highly inflated. Time to chop down the trees. Shakeup is an understatement.
The is no doubt that RDS needs a management shake-up and shake-out. Shell USA would be a good place to start the house cleaning and clean-up.
Good idea to commemorate the reserves scandal. But I prefer the idiot Watts in his spacesuit. As a priest he almost looks human. He is not, he is one of the great bullies that Shell bred over the years. Just lest we forget!
There is no Director support outside Ireland for the stupidity that took place on Corrib. And the failure to close out the matter leaves the grown ups in The Hague speechless.
To misquote Oscar Wilde, “To lose one director may be regarded as a misfortune; to lose two looks like carelessness”. Directors do not usually resign without very good reason – Peter Rees’ resignation so soon after Voser’s untimely departure to Switzerland can only mean that something is very seriously wrong at the top of Shell that the directors are unable or unwilling to support.
Corrib Booze and landowner love bombing ……it’s important to note Crothers not part of this system but sadly for a man of great integrity he does lead the cover up team at the insistence of the legal people, he has been incredibly naive and spouts the most incredible incorrect statements. Its possible that Peter Rees was disgusted by the Corrib Team.
Your last post, equally disgusted you missed out equally spineless. Peter Rees wrote at length about this type of middle management corruption so he obviously didn’t like what he knew about Crothers and Co on the Corrib .
Peter Rees was fully aware of Corrib Senior management diabolical treatment of a small helpful
Local vendor ,he was disgusted that such a situation was not addressed in keeping with Vosers promise .Other senior non irish Shell people including Directors are equally disgusted .
Just read the latest news on your site! No idea what is happening. This must be something big, otherwise it would be massaged much more smoothly, big wheels don’t just leave. They go spend more quality time with the family…. Presumably clash of characters and then the CEO wins. It overshadows Prelude for now. And the shareprice is just going up. What will happen Monday? Never a dull moment.
RE your article The Miners’ strike – a personal story I haven’t told before – believe me times have changed. The degree of executive freedom that Paddy Briggs had in Scotland back in 1984 is inconceivable in today’s cautious centralised world.
I don’t think Shell will divest ShellOil as its too strategic to let go like their China business. The mistake is investing in unconventional where the bigs boys are not good at. Time to let go unconventionals and focus on what you are good at. If not Shell have to start do things differently for unconventional. R
The notion that RDS would divest itself of Shell USA is quite interesting. It is an indication of how far Shell USA has fallen since the Dutch takeover in the mid-1980′s. Actually, the seeds of the decline in Shell USA’s fortunes were sown in the late 1970′ and early 1980′s when Shell USA decided to invest heavily in tertiary recovery of ‘unconventional reserves’, i.e., in heavy oil and the wholesale Co2 flooding of old fields. Shell engineers were so pleased with themselves they made it clear they saw no need for an exploration department. In the end it was a waste of resources and effort. Now, Shell USA finds itself under investigation for conspiracy to engage in espionage and to rig the international oil markets (racketeering).
Shell USA’s geniuses are not doing so well.
I wonder how the US legal system would treat RDS if they did indeed sell off Shell USA to the likes of Chevron or the Saudi’s. That unit would take with it a host of civil and potential criminal liabilities that would clearly diminish the value of Shell USA’s assets. Shell’s name brand would be irreparably harmed in the US because of the publicity, not to mention any convictions. And would RDS also want to divest itself of all those supposedly rich pickings in the US Arctic? I doubt it. That is where the real potential lies for Shell. How this shakes out will be very interesting.
Shell and Morgan Stanley would have no problem in rigging oil prices, because they are founding partners and members of the IntercontinentalExchange (ICE) in Atlanta. Google the “$2.5 Trillion Oil Scam – slideshare” and Google “Goldman’s, Global Oil Scam.” ICE rigs the oil prices, the oil supply-chain and the oil markets. The US and most of the world are victims of this scam. To avoid the Big Oil rip-off, plug your Tesla S electric car into your household, solar array.
We wonder why Shell bought Arrow in the first place. It’s. no brainier. With Shell gold plated standards and high overhead, it can’t be a viable investment. Wonder who is behind this acquisition. Poor Ben has to deal with all these mess.
EP Old hand n Iain- could it be the finance chiefs has more choices n most of finance folks have higher CEP in Shell as well. Wonder why Simon H still around. Joking too.
@Iain we go back a long time…. You are technically correct but I was talking CEOs, not mere underlings. You know, head honchos, the ones who could piss furthest or had the biggest you know what! We all know Maarten did not have the warmest personality of the directors in Shell. Please read this as the ultimate english understatement! Not many tears were shed when he left. Bankers and finance people are genetically quite similar and you don’t want them to run a technical business!
Several more have resigned:
Harry Roels quit because he could not stand the continuous baiting and bullying by Watts anymore. Then he became CEO of RWE and sorted out those krauts very well!
And Frank Chapman was forced to go to Nigeria after doing a first class with honors job on Troll, working 6 years 80 hrs a week and only asked for a short posting close to London to sort his own life out. But no, Watts insisted he had to go to Nigeria, real men go to Nigeria! So Frank just quit. Only then he was immediately offered a blanc cheque to reconsider but he gave Watts the bird and the rest is history.
And then there is Iain Percival who quit to do an MBA. But fortunately he came back to his senses and rejoined to become a (the) top petroleum engineer!
There must be a lot of happiness in the top of Shell! Working for a great company and hoping to become #1! What more can one wish for?
@Old EP Hand
Voser is not the first to step away from Shell at the top to “spend more time with the family”. Maarten van den Bergh surprised us all when he bailed out in 2000 to “spend more time with his family” only to pop up as Chairman of the UK bank Lloyds TSB in 2001. Such a position is not exactly a part time job so one can only speculate as to how much time the family got!
Maarten was also a finance man so possibly this is a world of finance thing. I wonder how much of the family Simon Henry sees? Sorry,I’m only joking
Voser must have been pushed or at least eased out of the door. I am not aware of any CEO of a major corporation who resigned at the peak of his tenure in order to ‘spend quality time with his family’. Never heard so much crap in my life. If there was a genuine problem in his family, it would have been made public via some leaks.
He will get a lot of time to think over his sins as summarised by John recently as well as his sins when in UBS. I hope he copes. Or will he also join priesthood like Watts?
There have been a host of articles published recently about the extent of the NSA’s intelligence gathering activities, both in the US and internationally. A unit of the NSA specializes in obtaining the ‘unobtainable’, and apparently has been quite successful. NSA targets all sorts of folks. I wonder if RDS has been targeted given their apparent appetite for classified DoD technical information and for manipulating crude oil prices. Maybe we shall find out in the not so distant future.
Corporations buy back their own stock for a number of reasons, the primary consideration being to increase stock price and dividends. Stock buy-backs are a signal to investors that corporate management sees little opportunity for stock and dividend growth in the foreseeable future. In other words, the company is, at best, stuck in a no-growth or very slow growth mode. Earnings per share are anticipated to hold steady or decline. The buy-back simply helps maintain share price and keep investors from seeing their stock holding decline in value.
Nothing substantial is going to change at Groningen, and there are two reasons why: 1)The Dutch government holds a 40% stake in the field and gets a big financial boost from gas sales, and 2) there are still penalty clauses in the gas delivery contracts with other European countries. So, guess what? Not only are RDS and Exxon on the hook for some major expenses, but so is the Dutch government.
I am very happy to see Shell becoming more Dutch. It was the brits who stole the company that was 60% Dutch and 40% british. And look what Watts and Brinded have done to the company. Putting a swiss beancounter who was soiled at UBS did not help. I prefer a dour dutch calvinist any time over one of those fast talking brits or americans who sell their soul and that of the company to anyone willing to pay.
There was a day (in the 1980′s) when RDS ranked far ahead of its ‘peers’ in ‘unconventional oil and gas’, at least in the US. Then RDS bought out Shell USA, the price of oil and gas collapsed, and RDS abandoned serious development of ‘unconventional’ sources of hydrocarbons. They puttered around, but didn’t take the matter seriously, especially the shale gas concept. It is the ‘group think’ problem of big companies. Now they are paying for their lack of imagination. I see no signs that this company will change.
Voser also knows that he can say whatever he wants about the Arctic – he won’t be around in 2025 to explain why it hasn’t happened. Just another case of overpromise, if only to explain where the shareholders’ billions have gone
Shells stupidity on Corrib Project making it very hard for Minister Shatter to defend Garda actions against the decent people of Mayo #ownupshell
The Polar Pioneer is currently in Tromso, 17000 miles from Anchorage via Cape Horn. That’s going to be a very long, very expensive trip.
Why has Shell decided to risk using the Polar Pioneer, another second-hand rust-bucket drilling rig (in this case nearly 30 years old), in Alaska’s Arctic? I thought Shell were supposed to use the most cutting-edge modern practices in the Arctic. Can Shell not afford a new rig? Or does Shell think Alaska’s Arctic is too marginal to justify a new rig? Or, does this say anything about the financial health of Shell’s Arctic operations, or about the company health altogether? Please advise!
Shell Malaysia has the first Gas to Liquid plant in the 90s. Despite a bit of setback initially,it is still very profitable for its quality, low cost and great business environment. So why not expand the facilities in low cost environment in Malaysia instead of in US. MB
Why is Shell sending the American cowboys to China to develop the unconventional when they rank 13th in US. This can’t be right.
If the fines paid by the banks for rigging interest rates are any sort of guide, it will be very expensive for the oil companies if they are found to have been manipulating oil prices
Can’t speak for Cambodia, but police corruption still just about illegal here in Ireland for the time being anyway.
I saw the article on waste water production projection in Alberta. For Those Interested – New York’s Central Park is one (1) square mile in area.
Why does this website comment so much about a small small topic in Ireland. Are Shell doing so well that this is the only point to criticize them so much. Here in Cambodia they are well liked.
Police Bribes….WHY ….is the CEO of Shell …personally attending meetings in Den Haag London and Dublin about police bribes ….that didn’t happen …WHY ?
It would be nice if Shell’s new Prelude LNG ship functions better than BP’s Thunderhorse platform did. I think Shell need to hire some very qualified marine engineering inspectors to supervise the construction work on that ship. But what do I know ? Any comments LondonLad ??
Hi Irish police ,its one thing
staying stum about your booze arrangements with Shell (bribes in any other country ) but when a judge is asking the questions about the relationship between you and the oil giant ,and you don’t answer truthfully then it’s a miscarriage of Justice ( in any other country )
“Interest “of Mayo Justice your late on the case Shell in charge in the Mayo courts no question about it.
Cops booze thin end of the wedge .but some one has broken rank and all will be exposed by ombudsman .
Info required please / did an irish policeman gain a conviction of an Erris man on Thursday whilst denying
He offloaded a large amount of alcohol sent by the people at Shell or Statoil the prime movers of the court case /please respond on this platform /very dangerous situation /
Shells Byrne did not send Alcohol to the Garda Shells John Egan did , Byrne just a victim like
OSSL #voserwillcloseitout #spinlessmanagement
Hi John, Radio Station Shell alcohol sender, John Egan Director still at his desk ….Garda alcohol sender Connor Byrne “sacked for abusing Shell Gifting policy” so what is Shells policy ?
The Shell Blog facility is back and fully operational.
Write more, thats all I have to say. Literally, it seems as though you relied on the video to make your point. You clearly know what youre talking about, why waste your intelligence on just posting videos to your weblog when you could be giving us something enlightening to read??
John, oil man of the year Peter Voser ,promised me resolution at the Den Haag AGM ..one or two witnesses present I believe he’s a man of integrity and will deliver ….Shell Garda ,alcohol gifting now officially a criminal matter and people caught in the crossfire should not have to wait any longer for justice …action now Mr Voser !!!
LondonLad: I like a man with a sense of humor.
Given the fact that RDS now lies in 5th place compared to its peers will we see Vosser give back his “oil executive of the year” award.
Lower 3rd Q profits at RDS have been known / predicted for more than a week – e.g. Telegraph and Express have stated as such in their Business sections. “There can be no doubt that this fall in profit has been insider information for several weeks now” – of course it has been known for a number of weeks at RDS board level, as it should have been. Inferring that this is something illegal or unusual is yet again tabloid titillation from this website. Actually their results, albeit disappointing, were better than a number of analysts had forecast. I thought belly-aching was more your forte Relieved – hence your alias.
To LondonLad: Will you please quit your belly- aching. You know quite well that
RDS and its management doesn’t get half of what it deserves in negative publicity. If RDS was not behaving badly this website would have not anything to publish. And by the way, lumping me in with the likes of Greenpeace is truly a compliment, and I thank you for it.
To George Hamilton : firstly this site has shown very little respect for several RDS employees over the years, and continues to do so with much venom at times. Secondly, as for Donovan to accuse me of making personal and unpleasant comments it is like “pot calling kettle black”. Those with an agenda clearly against RDS should also read their own vitriolic comments which often come across as people with a stability problem. This hysteria about alcohol misuse in Ireland just about summarizes the problem with this site – apart from a few (aka photos posted on this site) activists and obscure local newspapers nobody has shown an iota of interest in this subject in the UK or elsewhere. People such as those from Ireland / Greenpeace / Relieved etc. etc. don’t need to immediately try and deflect comments that attempt to defend some (yes, some) of RDS actions / activities. I have also complained about RDS, aka the first point on my last posting, but just because I don’t vent my spleen against RDS my negative comments about them are glossed over. REPLY BY JOHN: I agree that some other contributors are unfair and unkind to you LondonLad. Your relatively rare negative comments about Shell are not glossed over by me. It is also true that we have been disrespectful of certain Shell people on what we considered, and what I still consider to be perfectly valid grounds. The difference is that what we said was always in our own names. This meant that if anything we stated was inaccurate or untrue, the named party was able to seek redress. As to the Irish cop corruption scandal, do you consider The Sunday Times, The Irish Times and The Observer to be local obscure newspapers? All have covered the story. Likewise major Irish radio and TV broadcasters. Note that you are still persisting with your unpleasant personal comments while hiding behind an alias. That is disappointing.
The European community is not very happy with the US NSA for all of its monitoring of European telecommunications. However, there is a very, very close relationship between NSA and British SIS so I suspect the Brits were involved to some degree. What is interesting about all of this is that these folks may have swept up conversations, emails, etc., between RDS, et al, that pertain to the oil price fixing scheme they are under investigation for allegedly perpetrating. If it should turn out to be true, and there a good chance that this will be the case, then BP, StatOil, and RDS could be in very serious trouble IF NSA and SIS have records of their conspiracy. Wouldn’t that be ironic. This is such an interesting development. An international criminal conspiracy ??? In the US it would fall under the RICO statutes, among others, and in the US people would go to prison for a long time. The same could hold true for RDS’s supposed targeting of the US Dept. of Defense. That would be espionage. I wonder what NSA and SIS actually did sweep up ?? Maybe Mr. Snowden can shed some light on all of this.
London Lad, two things a bit more respect for Donovans Family please, secondly it’s public knowledge here in Mayo that the joint venture between An Garda Siochana and Shell regarding alcohol supplies is the subject of official enquiry by the relevant authorities, with prosecutions powers, which hopefully will expose the wrongdoing and the subsequent cover up, well highlighted on this site .
I agree that Shell’s scenario prediction was not always that great – I had many a clash with those God’s in The Hague who thought otherwise. Some 9 years ago their prediction for the future was US$14 for a mid-range scenario for oil projects and new acquisitions. Hmmmmm. However, do we know how accurate other major’s performed? I again reiterate my 3 points last Friday : 1) have Shell been bought before the courts re this hyped up story about alcohol “abuse” in Ireland? 2) have Shell been bought before UK courts for alleged pump price fixing? and 3) has Shell been proven to be stopping / greatly reducing capex investment worldwide? Regarding #1 I still cannot find any reference to this “hysterical” story in the mainline UK papers or main internet sites – perhaps sensible people have more serious and important matters to be concerned about. Oh, P.S. Donovan, my mother died in August (aged 93) but I don’t try and use this as an excuse for my defence of Shell when it is attacked by people who have an agenda against them and / or have very little knowledge about the oil/gas industry. REPLY BY JOHN: Sincerely sorry to hear about your mother. The difference is that my father co-founded this website and news of his death was publicly known, including a reference to his passing in a whole page article in The Observer devoted to the Shell corruption story in Ireland, which sparked all of the “Hysterical” coverage on Irish TV, Radio, magazine and newspapers to which you object. As to the alleged pump price fixing, I have republished allegations and news originated by professional journalists working for the national and international news media. I cannot recall making any comment on the subject myself. Your postings are unfortunately becoming personal and unpleasant – comments I doubt you would make unless hiding behind an alias.
John ,excellent exposÃ© on Garda alcohol how was this allowed to happen? Where now for Shell? CEO number five for the Corrib? Why the Lies? Will Voser intervene? whats the top cop saying? Shell has lost the plot in Ireland,major disgrace.
PV Transition 09 is a mess n the strategy refresh created further mess. It is obvious PV never intended to stay long. In China it’s a bigger mess run by a group of expensive amateurs expat. What happen to the good old Shell. Poor Ben has a tough job ahead to turn the ship around.
This ‘booze for the Irish’ scheme of RDS’s is AMAZINGLY STUPID. Who was the retarded jackass running this operation ??? They should be hung out to dry (no pun intended). This saga reads like a rejected soap-opera. No wonder RDS is beginning to have ‘troubles’ with its business model. Nobody is minding the house. Where is/was the adult supervision ???
Michael Crothers has been
badly let down by those that ran the Corrib project long before he arrived .
But on realising this he has chosen to continue the lie regardless of the cost to others , Garda Homeowners ,and support companies are all just cannon fodder in the need for cover up .also do you notice that all Corrib Cock
Ups ( CCUs) the list is long ,are of Shells own making .
My heart goes out to those
Garda who played the Shell game only to be let
Relieved: the market capitalisation of Shell is just one half of the net asset value – compare this with Chevron where the market capitalisation and net asset value are approximately the same. Shell is a prime candidate for a takeover or a breakup. The only question is not “if” but “when”.
Old EP Hand: I seriously doubt RDS will wear down John, but they could damage the company so seriously its pieces become worth more than the whole if the company is broken up.
LondonLad: Whatever happened to your fellow kindred spirit, US Citizen ??? He seems to have abandoned you to spar with the ignorant, illiterate, spiteful anti-Shell barbarians all by yourself. Ah well, we all have our crosses to bear. KBO, your comments are occasionally entertaining.
London Lad your posting confirms a lot of Shell poor decision making, never forget Shell to Sea, love them or hate them, correctly brought Shell to book on many occasions and in a lawful manner. Shell to Sea have saved lives in contrast to Shell who have cost lives drilling in unsuitable soil, as well advised to them by their own experts at the beginning of this project .
Awesome issues here. I’m very happy to see your post. Thank you a lot and I’m taking a look forward to contact you.
Will you kindly drop me a e-mail?
Here we are again, it’s Friday night and this website continues to pontificate about how Shell is going to be screwed by this country + that country + this organization + anything else that moves on this planet, and oh a possible hostile takeover. Thank goodness that those idiots in Greenpeace are being screwed by that nice guy Mr. Putin else Shell might also have to worry about this glorious factually inaccurate organization. So “nodding donkeys” (aka Outsider and Relieved + those Irish who’d rather live & “travel” in the dark ages) have Shell been : (1) bought before the Irish courts for their alleged alcohol “conspiracy” with OSSL? (2) bought before the UK courts for alleged pump price fixing? (3) proven to be “stopping capex” investment worldwide? (4) shown to be wrong in getting rid of non-profit making activities recently? The list goes on and on. Yet the nodding donkeys on this site merely attempt to try and show Shell and its workers in the worst possible light. Fact is that places like Nigeria would go down the toilet if Shell pulled out. Cherry picking snippets from various news articles from obscure newspapers around the world (many with their own green / anti Shell agendas) doesn’t fool those with more than one brain cell. It’s a shame but over the years I sense that this website is run by someone who has a real stability problem. A few years ago there was a degree of balance in some of the arguments for / against Shell. Now it’s almost hysteria against anything Shell does. COMMENT BY JOHN: What does it say about you bothering to post extensive comments, as you have today, on a website operated by someone who, in your opinion, is mentally unstable, as your comment clearly implies. It would not be surprising if I were a little unsettled given that my 13 year old Labrador passed away on 21 June and my 96 yr old father five weeks later, both in particularly distressing circumstances. Your timing in making such a personal accusation is therefore unfortunate. The truth is that we post positive and negative news about Shell. Please don’t blame me just because there is so much negativity about Shell at the moment emanating from Peter Voser, major news organizations and the financial media. It is Shell that is currently unstable, not me.
How can a single guy like PV do so much damage to a huge company like Shell? His TO9 reorg was a braindrain exercise and politicians won out. There is a huge shortage in Shell for technical competent staff and managers. I have nobody above me currently who understands even 20% of my discipline. I fear this will get much worse before it gets better. To the next boss: don’t run a technical company like an investment company.
Greetings, I think your blog may be having web browser compatibility problems.
When I look at your website in Safari, it looks fine however,
if opening in IE, it’s got some overlapping issues.
I simply wanted to provide you with a quick heads up!
Aside from that, wonderful site!
If irish policemen bite the dust because we lied its just collateral damage all’s
fair in Oil&Gas #cheerscoppers
Melt down on Corrib shockingly poor management team and now losing the support of the police locally into the bargin Voser needs to act now .
John time to ask some questions the word here in Erris is that the Garda investigation is over and that Ossls claims have been found to have substance Commissioner now involved .check it out .
If RDS were to be hit with large fines and damage claims from a price fixing scheme then they would clearly become a take-over target.
It is common knowledge that BP, Exxon and Total (and possibly others) planned hostile bids for Shell after the reserves fiasco. Shell’s current underperformance in comparison with the market, together with huge write-offs on unconventionals and the Arctic suggest that some of these plans may be under consideration once again, perhaps with Chevron added to the list of potential bidders.
Relieved: I agree but also would point out how RDS stock price has only increased 11% since Jan 2010 whereas XOM (28%) COP (29%) and CVX (55%) have done much better. They also didn’t waste millions on restructuring. Yes PV will be remembered for sure!
Peter Voser’s disappoints about Shell’s performance in the US are his way of saying Shell USA management ‘screwed the pooch’. Shell has nobody to blame for its ‘disappointments’ but itself, and that means senior level management. Time for some house cleaning at the top.
To Outsider: You are correct. However, in nature it would seem that most forms of scum ‘float to the top’, so to speak. RDS is no exception. Being an ex-Shell type I speak with some knowledge of the phenomenon.
Hi all and John recent postings shock but don’t surprise ,the abuse of a small Irish vendor pales into insignificance but confirms the mindset of some in Shell #bullyboys
Relieved: I’m as horrified as you to read the story about Leroy Caillet, and know that it reflects the behaviour of a small psychopathic proportion of Shell’s employees. Fortunately, there is a far greater number of decent, honest people at Shell who will also be horrified. Hopefully these people will one day control the show.
I read the article about those folks who lost their father in a accident that Shell blamed on their deceased father. How typical. Remember the case of the woman in Alberta or B.C. whose family suffered from H2S gas poisoning which Shell denied any knowledge of ??? What can we say about RDS management ??? They are simply a collection of mean, lowdown, dirty, lying Scum. Now, they may have been born that way, or they may simply be former abused children who cannot help themselves because they don’t know any better. Who knows. But the fact remains that RDS is managed by Scum, and anyone working for, or doing business with the SOB’s should realize that.
I don’t know how much money Shell left on the table after the last round of bidding for Chukchi leases, but it was in the hundreds of millions. Shell did the same thing in the ’80′s. You’d think these guys might wise up, but don’t count on it. Shell apparently has money to burn (more money than they have good investment opportunities, or so they think) and they do know how to burn it. So, burn baby, burn.
LondonLad: You seem to think I may have Irish heritage. Not so. I am Scots-German, mostly Scot. That accounts for my ‘contrary’ nature. And you know how the Scots and English have gotten along over the last 1000 years or so.
Today’s press reports that Shell is pulling out of its shale investments in Texas and Colorado, and being replaced in the Chukchi Sea and the Niger delta suggest that a major realignment is taking place
Saw the comment about RDS’s invitation to share information with them. Kind of reminds me of the old saying: ‘Welcome to my parlor, said the spider to the fly.’ Sharing ANYTHING with RDS is a fools exercise.
To â€œRelievedâ€ â€“ the Oirish, or should I say their ancestral trouble makers across the pond, should realise that the reserves quoted on this website (from carefully chosen left wing organizations) for various exploration blocks are grossly exaggerated. I would say that most Yanks who pontificate about making sure other countries tax their population for this that and the other look at themselves. Why do the Yanks have such cheap fuel â€“ their stupid Government subsidize fuel. Simples.
I see the ‘shell to the sea’ campaign is finally beginning to pay off. The Irish need to also institute a royalty fee on all produce oil or gas. In the US it is between 1/8 and 1/5 the sale price of the raw product. That would add another couple of HUNDRED BILLION $USD to government’s general fund. This is the kind of money that is at stake for the Irish government and it is why the oil co.’s (especially RDS) are so willing to buy off Irish politicians. Bribery is simply a cost of doing business for them, and it pays off handsomely.
RDS is very disingenuous about their marketing plans for the fuel they would produce from that proposed GTL plant in Louisiana. The liquids would be exported and sold overseas because it is so much more profitable than selling it in the US. That is why so much diesel refined in the US is already sold overseas. US crude sells for about a 20% discount to that in international markets and while crude cannot be exported from the US the refined products can be exported. This is all about cheap US gas and the premium pricing of fuels in foreign markets relative to the US market. The US should also prohibit the exportation of refined fuel products if the raw feed stock material was produced in the US.
A GTL plant in Louisiana? Sounds great as long as natural gas is available at a very low cost, and capital amortization is paid by somebody else… GTL in Qatar and Brunei works, but only because the gas is free… The only justification for GTL in the US would be to force up overall demand (and hence prices for everyone else). Would Jindal really support a project whose sole function is to manipulate the market, hurting both domestic and industrial gas consumers?
The article on this website under the headline: Shell screwing dealers in Northeast USA?: Motiva no longer operates the retail outlets, they have leased all to wholesalers (jobbers) who in turn set the prices for the rents, and the gasoline. they have also done away with the trucking fleet, (you won’t see any shell trucks on the road) which means the wholesalers contract with common carriers to deliver the products to the stations. this is part of the plan to concentrate on operating terminals and refineries and move away from the retail sales. even though they no longer operate the stations, the products are still loaded at the motiva terminals. they have also sold off several underperforming northeast terminals as part of a restructuring plan. not to defend the company, but it appears the wholesaler is the “bad guy” in this case.
Good to see that the Russians are taking the Greenpeace activists / yobs to court for boarding an oil platform. Several years in the Gulags may straighten their yobish behaviour out.
West Awake E in Irish Whiskey …your correct not in Scotch as per my post ,
I knew Des and Neil since before Shell were here very helpful in every way big help to Entrerprise and Shell a shocking disgrace what Shell done to them
To, also a john in Mayo, Point of order (hic) there is no E in Scotch Whisky
Hello John my tuppence worth is as follow the Gards here confirmed the alcohol to Shell it’s Shell that’s in a tizzy and doesn’t know what to do ,and the gards are pretty upset with Shell .Great web site the truth hurts.
The famed Shell Scenarios crystal ball never revealed a world in which its so-called No.1 Enemy would be operating globally under the Royal Dutch Shell Plc top level domain name, dealing on Shellâ€™s behalf with job applications, business proposals, Shell pension enquiries, complaints, invitations to speak at conferences, and even terrorist threats. This was a scenario apparently deemed too far beyond the realms of possibility to be contemplated, but it is nonetheless the incredible reality and has been for getting on to a decade. How on earth did such a supposedly far-sighted management end up in such a humiliating situation, which has already cost the company billions of dollars? The news media, who have described â€œthe Donovan websiteâ€ as being â€œAn open wound for Shellâ€œ, are welcome to see the evidence substantiating everything stated above.
I would like to repeat a warning I have mentioned before about postings on this blog. Websites allowing aliases to be used are especially vulnerable to manipulation. That includes Wikipedia and blogs such as this one. It follows that I can only vouch for the bona fides of postings made in my name or by contributors such as Paddy Briggs, who choose not to use an alias. Some contributors using aliases, such as â€œOutsiderâ€ have built up a reputation over several years for the integrity of their postings on this website.
Mr Donovan, London Lad, George Hamilton, shareholder complicity in this matter is not in evidence we have our CEOs assurance of resolution and we should have clarity soon rather than later, because its getting a little bit stinky, Thank you.
John .message for S to S
Don’t no how to contact direct NEXT WEEKS bottle
has to be SHELLS BELLS
London Lad don’t try to make little of this well reported item on Shell and law enforcement officers ,local concerned people have been battered round the head by these alcohol fuelled officers you are wrong to be complacent in your capacity as a shareholder wise up my friend and less of the mindless irish twang it’s not
Nice and a gentleman wouldn’t do it .
John, glad to hear you are indeed still enjoying running your website. I just believe it must have been more fun for you when you were still receiving the occasional e-mail from them instead of the current silent treatment.
@Relieved: your contribution really lifts the quality of conversation. Thanks! REPLY BY JOHN: I believe the policy is counter-productive and more recently – the unacknowledged death of my father – reflects very badly on senior management, but its up to Shell. The days of gentlemanly conduct from Shell leaders such as Sir John Jennings, with whom we developed a cordial relationship, appear long gone. Sir John ran the show, not Shell lawyers. Admire your restrained response to “relieved”.
Settle down boys and girls ,Voser demanded resolution because of Donovan’s postings he set up a non Irish enquiry behind closed doors this team hung their heads in shame when they heard all
But cover up seemed the best route “no evidence was the war cry “but Ossl don’t agree we will bring you kicking and screaming to the evidence and reluctantly expose the cops the landowners and your (Shell) corrupt middle management on the Corrib #errisbehindossl #actnowvoser #policecomeclean
Elmer and John Shell ,,were getting worried about a lack of challenge from Shell to Sea and decided to breath new life into them ,what a job they made of it ,fantastic #halfwits ,yes I applaud OSSL #neverliedown
Oh well, here we are on Friday evening and all I can see in the â€œShell Blogâ€ is a lot of nodding donkey comments agreeing in various degrees about RDS involvement in supplying alcohol to the Oirish Police via OSSL. Have to say by the way Donovan that the pictures of half a dozen protestors with very large flags in front of the Irish police is very impressiveâ€¦.. NOT. Just shows the true interest of the local population in this tabloid story. This story hasnâ€™t got much media attention in the main line newspapers (including the tabloids & the Guardian) â€“ probably seems to them that this is no story at all?? Why donâ€™t Shell respond to your innuendos / accusations / titillations â€“ perhaps they have far more important things to do for their share holders than respond to someone who has a huge chip on his shoulder from some perceived violation many years ago. As a shareholder I can commend this approach from Shell. Itâ€™s also strange that no formal move has been made by the Irish judiciary system to involve themselves with some form of prosecution over this issue â€“ no issue perhaps and merely yet another attack by people who have a grudge against Shell. Ooooo I await some umpteen pages of defence and references â€¦â€¦â€¦.
Loony Tunes yes sir Shell man playing Mr Big demands 300 plus cops get “well looked after ” demands no local purchase and no traceability enter OSSL ,first class outfit ,job done Mr Big under investigation but its a big secret ,he can’t get OSSL coverd with a false invoice because all eyes are on him but OSSL don’t know this and give him breathing space . Bombshell Mr Big Phucked out for massive abuse of “favours” AKA cops booze
OSSL forced up the ladder for a result re payment where’s the proof ? Asks a Canadian chappie you destroyed it says OSSL
Tough Shit says the Canadian and by the way Phuck off out of this project
Looney Tunes are funny this is not
This little saga of RDS and the Irish is like a bad Looney Toons cartoon, and someone at RDS was truly looney tunes to think they could get away with this stunt. Morons.
For Supershell: You missed your time and place in history. You would have done very well in the Germany of the 1930′s. You would have made a good storm trooper.
supershell, hi Shell pay much attention to this site when Voser met OSSL he said as much Shell had a fourteen hour meeting with OSSL part paid some members but not others ,tried to silence them but failed ,watch this space the best is yet to come .
Some very bad stuff that does indeed shame the name of Shell .
Shell is no longer responding to John Donovan’s probes and claims. It’s not much fun having an enemy that no longer wants to play. REPLY BY JOHN: On the contrary, it keeps me amused and has cost Shell billions of dollars. For over a decade, Shell has not wanted to play, except by its own rules, and has ended up in an intolerable situation whereby the company is publicly humiliated on a regular basis. Don’t take my word for it. This is what a Shell official said about us: “John and Alfred Donovan well known in UK/Hague. They perceive Shell played them and so have made it their mission to embarrass, belittle and criticize Shell, which they do quite well. Their website, royaldutchshellplc.com is an excellent source of group news and comment and I recommend it far above what our own group internal comms puts out.” Shell has long been active behind the scenes, in the shadows, hiring spooks and lawyers in an attempt to counter our activities. That all backfired spectacularly when we became aware of Shell’s dirty tricks operations, partly as a result of being contacted by a very high level source in Shell Global Security, who became ashamed of Shell’s corporate espionage activities. Personally I think Shell senior management tactics of sticking their heads in the sand and hoping we will lose interest and go away, has been disastrous for the reputation of the company.
Hi supershell ,interesting put down by you ,rebuttal possibly an option in the beginning but neither the policemen or Shell have that option now denial now not possible .Shell Corrib Boys and Girls could cop a plea of insanity in preference to denial it would be more believable .
super Shell don’t you mean re bottle didn’t think this would flush YOU out but it has is the noose tightening on their lying little necks ?
The practice of accusing Shell of something outrageous and then claiming that lack of rebuttal equates to proof of that claim is getting quite tiresome. Does anyone agree? (ref. OSSL emails to Shell and Irish Police18 Sept 2013)
Shell have shown a blatant disregard for all the people who make project progress possible I.e. the police the landowners the vendors , no regard whatsoever as to who gets damaged by their lies and cover up ….why don’t the police wise up ?.
Shell you are a corporate disgrace now you are lying to the police where will it end may be an honest cop will come forward
Shell pulled the sex, booze, and drugs stunt with employees of the US Dept. of the Interior, MMS, and it worked. Why should it shock anyone that Shell would try a similar stunt in Ireland ? Low lifes are cheap and easy targets for bribery, etc. This is just business as usual for RDS.
London Lad ..Whos us ? ..your difficulty to comprehend is yours alone ..read Donovans comprehensive file on OSSL then you will understand .
Begosh and begorrah â€œGeorge Hamiltonâ€ and â€œThe West Awakeâ€ â€“ please keep off the Guinness before making your posts as they are somewhat undecipherable to us mere mortals. Clearly you have both been getting some of Shellâ€™s handouts over there in Oirland.
I must ask Crothers you gave OSSL a glowing report “exteamly flexible on a difficult project “we know what you mean” go to get it done vendor” why the need to meet them in sleazy hotel rooms ? What are you worried about ? Why when you declared you dismissed them” immorally “from the project do you continue to abuse your position of power and deny them (three people ) a living a situation you could correct with a wave of your clean hands
The court documents you display speak of the need to avoid creating a martyr by the local police amongst the protesters Shell and the police saw the need to disappear the OSSL honestly given statement and then to disappear the statements author GANNON NOLAN where are you ? Explain please
John , something stinks can we ask Shell why after promising to do so they could not reveal the content of a opinion to match an OSSL opinion agreed by legal people for both parties as a sort all solution did that hidden opinion expose Shells extremely difficult position (your OSSL file refers ) Mr Voser this stinks
John ,your Irish Times posting earlier possible that Roadbridge don’t know what went on but categoric denials of illegal and unethical actions need serious back ground checks before going to print .Ossl and Roadbridge may both have been duped by Corrib Team
Who is going to take the blame for the latest fiasco/cock-up at Port Arthur ??? RDS is good at pinning the blame on the innocent and the contractors and rewarding the incompetent.
Garda booze YES press boozeYES covert gifts YES
disguised invoices YES
demands to lie YES
Subcontract the blame YES vilify the innocent YES …HOW BUCKING DARE YOU SHELL COME CLEAN NOW
John please inform OSSL as follows ,multiple members of the press ,who could do Shell no good but also no harm if they so chose were the beneficiaries of Shell Director John Egans largess in contrast the police force locally who assisted Shell day and night on land and at sea got nothing at Christmas ,
Pack you bags Egan and Co times up we don’t believe your non denial ,thanks John .
Corrib Gas middle management ….I don’t include Crothers in this he was late on the scene and can be forgiven he relied on many of you for guidance and got misled …
YOU SHAME THE NAME OF SHELL…God forgive you we never will .
Would any one agree Shell and Garda are engaged in a shameful act ,not giving and taking booze ,but covering their wrong doing by making villains out of a small vendor in order to cover their tracks ,well here’s a news flash its not working
John a message to OSSL demand knowledge of the current contact details of Gannon Nolan Byrne all probably still with Garda and Shell get a skilled legal person involved its clear that both organisations are covering up the truth great support for you in Erris even from pro gas people
RDS’s claim that they can drill safely in the Arctic reminds me of Neville Chamberlain’s claim that there will be ‘peace in our time’. It was and is all a load of BS. Hitler went to war with RDS’s support and there will (still) be massive oil spills in the Arctic. The big question is – Who will get stuck with cleaning up the mess?
LondonLad: I am glad you found your time at RDS rewarding. Many do not. I for one am delighted I left RDS behind me years ago.
LondonLad: are you mellowing?? I don’t think anyone has ever said that they believed all of RDS was rotten…but we all have issues with the 5% who have their own agenda and regard everyone else (both inside and outside Shell) as “collateral damage” in the achievement of their objectives
Thinking about my last posting â€“ why donâ€™t all the protagonists who complain about / defend RDS meet up over lunch (perhaps John can get RDS to pick up the tab!! and get some of them to attend) at an agreeable date and venue. Iâ€™m sure the likes of Di Oâ€™Rea & Nigerians alleged be living in extreme poverty in the Delta can be linked via Skype to the restaurant.
To â€œRelievedâ€ aka Di Oâ€™Rea â€“ why is it that anyone who comments on some of the stupid negative comments about Shell placed on this site are immediately branded as someone who works (presently) for RDS? I worked for 30 + years for the company and did NOT like some of the elements of the job and the pontification from The Hague (most particularly from the HR function). However, they were / are a company at most levels who believe / d in what they were / are doing was / is of true value to shareholders AND the community / country they were / are working in. There are many that attempt to slag RDS off â€“ presently the Oirish, Greenpeace, anarchists, Ludditeâ€™s and corrupt Nigerians (purporting to defend the rights of the Ogoniâ€™s) but at the end of the day we all want to move around this planet which requires hydrocarbons, fracking, etc. etc. It is the whipping up of hysteria by those who have no idea about E&P activities (e.g. Greenpeace & fracking activists â€“ most of whom are paid for by the UK tax payer and very rich parents) that at the end of the day should look at themselves and ask who is going to pay for my life in 20 years time and how am I going to go around the world and enjoy my parents legacy?!?!
To: On The Job: Do you work for RDS, per chance? You have a wonderful sense of business ethics.
WARNING ABOUT POSTINGS ON SHELL BLOG: I would like to repeat a warning I have mentioned before about postings on this blog. Websites allowing aliases to be used are especially vulnerable to manipulation. That includes Wikipedia and blogs such as this one. It follows that I can only vouch for the bona fides of postings made in my name, or by contributors such as Paddy Briggs, who choose not to use an alias. Some contributors using aliases, such as â€œOutsiderâ€, have built up a reputation over several years for the integrity of their postings on this website.
Middle management corruption in Shell and Statoil is acceptable if it gets the job done wise up you silly locals .
Is the editor of the western people aware that three people lost their jobs in what Michael Crothers states was an immoral fashion because of this booze gifting scenario wafer thin lies from Shell keep these people current employment a damnable situation .Mabey an honest Guard will come forward with a second confirmation of 2005 alcohol distribution .lets hope so …..FREE THE OSSL THREE from this shameful cover up .
Very very interesting John Donovan One newspaper on side =100 euro expenditure Three Hundred Gards on side on the television beating the living day lights out of innocent local people to secure a successful project = 30.000,00euros I’m now getting the picture
Whatever happens next, will anyone try to assess the real costs of the OSSL debacle to Shell and others? Apart from the public opprobrium resulting from the exposure of Shell’s dubious practices, and Shell’s own legal fees, the costs to OSSL in achieving any sort of victory are huge. In addition to OSSL’s own legal costs and the income they have lost during the dispute, Shell will ensure that OSSL are removed from the list of “approved contractors” shared by all of the E&P companies, preventing them from obtaining future work in the oil industry. Shell knows that OSSL will never be able to prove “Tortious Interference” in court, even if they could afford to take on the might of Shell’s legal army. And there will be no compensation for OSSL’s employees who have been made redundant as a result of Shell’s actions.
Yes George Hamilton INTEGRITY RESULTS JUST IN Western People Newspaper 1 Shell oil and Gas 0. (Own goal John Egan )
John , just seen today’s London Sunday times people putting there coats on in Corrib House middle management clear out on the way this corruption not acceptable to Voser or Rees
Hi blog, I’m on the job in Mayo read your blog know OSSL not well but know them, SILLY QUESTION FOR EVERYONE INVOLVED why after ten years of good service does Shell need to only meet OSSL in seedy hotel rooms (previous Donovan articles refers) what’s the big need to distance themselves from OSSL. its at odds with Crothers calling them (OSSL ) an excellent vendor. maybe not such a silly question.
John your latest posting regarding Shell OSSL lets be clear who was at the meeting in the local hotel would this if factual dispel any doubt about the Shell cover up and cause an honest Shell man or woman to demand answers some one like Peter Rees or Peter Voser these guys won’t stand for middle management corruption to much to loose ie the confidence of the locals here in Mayo .
Did I read that correctly a minuted meeting in a local hotel confirms Shells is complicit in all that the vendor is saying THEN NAME ALL PRESENT AT THE MEETING so that Peter Rees can assess the depth of this cover up right now SHELL your not looking to clever
Peter Rees’ quotation “This is not a court of morals, nor is it a court of justice; it is a court of law” seems to imply that if Shell’s army of lawyers can mislead a court into believing that something was legal, then ethics and morality are of no concern. There is a very fine line between deliberately misleading a court using half truths and insinuations and telling outright lies. I have no doubt that when it comes to half truths and insinuations, Shell’s army of lawyers can defeat almost any honest adversary.
I londonlad heads the BS department
What a despicable mess they walked Michael Crothers into you have to say its not the way he works or lets hope not Shells got a lot to answer for they didn’t think a little hick company would fight back fair play OSSL
LondonLad: I have a piece of advice for you: Never kick a fresh turd on a hot day. Cheers.
Read the piece about RDS’s ‘business principle’. It is all a fraud. Pure PR crap.
Londonlad u can spin a story anyway u want if there money to be made u just have to be manipulative enough.
Great article in the Times newspaper today, page 25 (15th August) â€“ â€œLetâ€™s shatter these five myths about frackingâ€. Pity most of the yobs and anarchists canâ€™t read let alone understand scientific facts.
Honesty integrity respect for people , not on Shell Corrib different values were required there to get the job done OSSL expendable Voser failed to act as promised if he fails you what chance the rest acting with integrity
Templeofcorruption, i was goin to ask the same question!
londonlad news for u the IRA are as corrupt as the next organisation so why don t u join up! Poor u ,u sound like u ve givin up!
London lad .!! What uour job description at Shell ??
LondonLad: So you would have Ireland descend to the level of a third world country where graft is the norm? Is that really your idea of progress? I have no idea how the OSSL mess was created, and perhaps there was really nothing intended beyond a gesture of thanks to the Garda at Christmas. Unfortunately it has now become a major embarrassment for all concerned.
â€œEileenâ€ itâ€™s not a disgrace that there is no coverage in Ireland â€“ this is only a story for those who donâ€™t want Ireland to develop but would rather they continue to live in the dark ages. Trust me the rest of the UK (and most likely the world apart from the IRA loving Kennedyâ€™s) doesnâ€™t give a hoot about this low life story. I am absolutely sure that now the football & rugby seasons are about to start the story over Corrib and all the stupid hype whipped up by sites such as this (and the left wing Guardian) will drop off the news in Ireland even more. RIP all you stone age unwashed. By the way what has happened to the attacks on Shell / BP / etc. etc. over the petroleum products price fixing â€“ just another over simplistic story generated by the likes of the suing culture Yanks no doubt. Oh I do like summer time when the stories generated by the â€œmediaâ€ are often total bull-shit as there is nothing else to moan about.
Re earlier comment about lack of coverage in irish media, couldn t agree more. Its a disgrace.
Remember that former RDS employee whose ‘classified’ IP RDS targeted ?? Rumor has that NASA (Langley Research Center) has invited him to become one of their science/engineering advisors. NASA has apparently asked him to help them formulate a very long term research program. When is the last time that happened to a former RDS employee. There is life after RDS.
To LondonLad: You need to check your spelling, Old Top. Cheers.
It matters Danyell of course it does. Maybe you were being ironic but without the rule of law we have anarchy. I have no idea whether the accusations are true but they have been made and there are questions to answer.
What is it with the Irish and booze ????
Can OSSL post a copy of the PO and contract scope of work tied to the PO? I see a number is posted in the invoice (4510249377).
Does it really matter? bribes, backhanders, bungs call it whatever you want but they have existed since time began and will continue forever. Rightly or wrongly it is common business practice and like the ancient Spartans the crime was not the offence itself but being caught out.
Well said â€œRelievedâ€ you clearly still have Di Oâ€™rea in the brain. Coming from a Yank that is extremely rich!! You guys across the pond, particularly the likes of the Kennedyâ€™s who attempted to sponsor the murdering IRA, try looking at the severe corruption in the US.
On a more serious note, that is the first piece of silverware for this season that the boys have won.
To those who think the Irish should be grateful for RD Shell’s presence, I would remind them that they have options when it comes to dealing with oil companies, i.e., Exxon, Chevron, Statoil, Total, etc., etc., etc. The Irish don’t have to put up with Shell’s corrupting influence if they don’t want to. They need to get rid of their corrupted gov’t officials first, however.
What I still find so disgraceful after all this time is the absence of media coverage about the illegal/ dodgy/ underhand methods employed by state, state agencies and Shell. Nowhere on television in Ireland where it matters /high profile such as Late late Show or Prime time has there been consistent coverage. The majority of the Irish population just carries on as though this struggle in Co Mayo is not happening .
I am reminded if course that for years girls and young women were disposed of in the Magdalen Laundries (sweatshops) or shipped to England to have their illegitimate babies. Not to mention thd organised and widespread clerical abuse in every diocese here. We Irish seem to be blessed with turning a blind eye to injustice at home when money is involved. One only has to remember the Galway FF tent !!
As someone who lost her job as a result of making my opinion heard; daring to peacefully protest; writing to the press and so forth I am not surprised that free booze, DIY were given to community . Again the church has/is complicit on this. Take a bow Fr. Kevin Hegarty.
To all of you – us- who struggle for justice in a very unjust world Hope, Hope and Hope that one day we shall overcome. Xxx
The Oirish should be glad that Shell finally brings some energy into this country – literally and figuratively.
LondonLad: I suspect your attitudes pertaining to Ireland and the Irish would have been seconded by Cromwell. Remember your history. I am most certain the Irish do.
Hi London Lad ,your inability to understand surprises no one keep taking the tablets cheers .
Shell to Sea offers sincere condolences to you John and to your family on the death of your good father, Alfred RIP. Both you and he have given inestimable support to our campaign and it is heartening to see such support continue even at this time. The current sorry saga of Royal Dutch Shell v OSSL has similarities with your own experience – inept ‘leadership’ within Shell is incapable of recognising decent business practice and continues to subvert in that area as Royal Dutch Shell plc has subverted state governance for decades.
Alfred Donovan lived and died with his integrity intact.
Suaimhneas sÃorraÃ dÃ¡ anam (Eternal rest to his soul).
Can some one explain Shells ..Garda ..decent people of Erris ..KPMG ..stonewall silence is there something bigger we have not to know about ?
Jeeeeez thank God there is life outside of the insignificant and small island called Ireland. What a load of whingers and moaners who are hell bent on stopping progress. As for the alcohol angle â€“ that is rich coming from the country who get pissed regularly on Guinness and export it for considerable profit. Having attempted, on several occasions, to understand the comments from â€œGeorge Hamiltonâ€ and â€œCorrib Watcherâ€ they clearly have been on the sauce (Guinness) prior to making their postings. I genuinely cannot understand what these Mickâ€™s are trying to tell the outside world.
Three things the leading players can’t break the truth on 1 Garda SHELL demand for lies 2 Garda Shell denial of alcohol supplies 3 Shell Local Homeowners deny covert home improvements ….if Shell clearly prove “not us that would be corrupt “then the OSSL people would be before a judge by now in the meantime deny them a living is the best Shell can do ..shame on the guards shame on the householders …come clean BIG OIL and repair the damage
Pullatomish Pier on u tube a good watch no Shell man there because they had no permission to be there but they didn’t tell OSSL boy that they knew there would holy murder up there just a Shell tactic
Your lead story ,a few questions where is NOLAN where is CRONIN where is ROONEY and the big question where is GANNON some one please come forward with the answers
So sorry about the Passing of your dad John, On behalf of my family and l, Please accept our Condolences. Alfred Donovan was an inspirational in his battle against the dirty Oil Company $hell. He always stand for what he believed that is right by fighting for the Oppressed.I strongly believed that GOD has placed him in a special place and his kind, gentle, perfect soul will continue resting in the Bosom of the LORD. Alfred died an Hero, and will always be remembered for his good work. may God grant the entire family strength to bear the loss
Glad to see that those Nimby’s who want us to be subservient to the Arabs and live in caves are objecting to fracking in the UK. Why don’t they just wait for a few months until fracking has started in their area then submit fictitious claims for structural damage as the Americans have done?
Nice words from sad to hear Alfred Donovan was the giant from where I’m sitting i do think someone in Shell will step forward and offer corporate condolences lets hope so
so sorry to hear about the passing of Alfred Donovan. my condolences to John and the rest of the famly. Alfred was inspirational in his relentless battle against Shell – he proved that the “little guy” can speak out, even against oil giants. He was a relentless whistle blower. again, so sorry to hear that he’s now gone.
Well said, Paddy Briggs.
I am very sorry to hear of the passing of Alfred Donovan and pass my condolences to John and the family. I guess the best any of us can hope for in life is that we made a difference. Mr Donovan did and that is to celebrate.
The age of the whilstle-blower and the activist is with us today and those who try to reveal the hidden truths are being villified by establishments big and small. It takes courage to stand up to the big battallions. I know Shell past and present well enough to know that it is not as bad as this website might sometimes suggest it is – but not as good as the Shell PR machine would have us believe either. It is only by digging resolutely for the truth that we will know on any one issue where along the spectrum form Villian to Hero the truth resides! Then, when the facts are known, we can make our own judgments. The Donovans have been diggers for truth and I commend them for it even if I dont agree with all of their conclusions !
RIP Alfred Donovan.
Well it’s taken something special for me to “revisit” this site after such a long time, but, I sincerely give the Donovan family all my sympathies on the loss of Alfred Donovan. A good innings and no doubt an honest and true man, despite my angst against some of the articles written and defended on this website.
Alfred Donovan RIP Shell didn’t know what they were doing when they picked a fight with that man. Rest in peace you were a good man indeed.
John, as a regular reader of your website my sincerest condolences with the loss of your father.
Although I don’t agree with most of the negativity expressed here, I want to express my sincere condolences for the passing away of your father, John.
Halliburton may have destroyed evidence pertaining to the testing and completion of that well, but it was BP’s well design and drilling program that was the real culprit. BP tried to save a well bore that had been trashed by a shoddy drilling program. That well was never intended to be put on production. It was a ‘throw away’ well bore because, as with most exploration wells, BP really didn’t expect to find a commercial oil accumulation.
Would it be best if Senior Corrib man Brian Foley had a little bit of recall before the people of Mayo demand clarity on this crushing of a local company because of an inconvenient truth time to come clean Mr Foley .
What’s $1+ billion and money laundering allegations when almost a USD $$$ trillion is at stake. That is real money and warrants the liberal greasing of corrupt hands.
Along with the imprisonment threat if OSSL spoke out ,at an earlier stage in this debacle OSSL were informed by a Shell senior Corrb manager that if we approached Shell higher up the ladder that he would see to it that we would never work in the oil and gas industry again we asked Michael Crothers to to explain this extremely harsh ban on future employment for doing Shells bidding and assisting in all Shells requests ,his reply as always is silence .
A top Shell executive called Frances Van dam flew from Den Hagg to meet the smallest company that Shell had ever delt with she wanted the meeting to take place outside of Ireland so two members of the small company met her in London all her questions were answered honestly and and any information she requested was give freely we OSSL had acted she said with propriety and had been selected as the Go to company when special requests were required by Shell we put forward the name of Brian Foley Senior Shell Corrib man as the person who would confirm all we had to say .five months later we OSSL were requested to travel back to London to meet with Shell CEO the outcome of the second meeting was that would seek an outside opinion on the matters in dispute and OSSL should also obtain an opinion , both opinions were to be shared openly at a subsequent meeting from these opinions a solution would be found and the matter closed. However when the opinion sharing meeting took place Shell refused to put their independent opinion on the table .
The following day their independent opinion giver was sent to the offices of Ossls independent opinion giver to inform him that if his client revelied any of the information freely given then a prison sentence would be the likely outcome because of the nature of Shells demands on OSSL , that threat has never been withdrawn by Shell dispite many requests from OSSL ….
John , remember “beware of a man in a Shell Hat” a story on the Shell senior contracts manager for Corrib Brian Foley is the man the Voser appointee is relying on for the truth to aired on the OSSL claims. He is also the man who ordered the favours, furthermore he is a friend of the Voser appointee …what chance the truth coming out – there a fox in the hen house kidding on he’s a chicken – the cover up continues: its also remarkable that he’s still in that job .
Shell Canada is in talks with LOBLAWS supermarkets to sell its gas stations
John read all you have printed about OSSL just like to add ,can you imagine the great sense of excitement at OSSL when Shell asked us to assist them in certain tricky matters to smooth the passage of their Corrib project to assist in the manner we did was they informed us was the ticket to fifteen years ongoing business for a world class client …can you imagine the horror when we discovered that we were only to be used then trashed for fear that our confidential moves made on their behalf would be uncovered to reveal what they now call corruption ..they didn’t call it that when they were making daily requests for favours we were tricked by supposed men of integrity then we took our plight to higher level even at the risk of imprisonment as threatened by Shell but that higher level fell for the crap being spouted by the irish Shell team and failed OSSL again #saddaywhenwesaidgladtohelpyou
The very top people at Shell Corrib Project authorised the home improvements for nearby locals and booze for the Garda wrong people sacked to ensure cover up but that didn’t work thundering disgrace and Voser knows it now a man is in mortal danger his price for helping bring gas ashore and doing Shells biding big disgrace but no surprises life is cheap as far as Shells concerned .
Half an hour ago at the Corrib site I asked a Shell person about the hunger striker ,yes we know about it we have a sweepstake on how many days nice people
Reports from Shells Corrib development in Mayo that local vendor is on a hunger strike demanding intervention from Shell regarding on going cover up of very serious matters including demands by Shell to mislead the police ombudsman or be dismissed from project .
I am not surprised that RDS chose the man it did for its new CEO. RDS is heavily committed to gas and gas to liquids conversion because it is so profitable. They need someone running the shop who understands what he is doing (at least in theory).
How much of the drop in Shell’s share price is related to exposure to potential claims if the EU suspicions are confirmed?
Presumably the fall in share price is the start of the discounting for the accession of Simon Henry to the throne? RDS share price has been stagnant for some time now so we must be due for a(nother) re-org !!
In June, Shell appointed as one if its Vice Presidents, Mike Muller, the person at the centre of the Brent price issue. How is it possible that the senior management did not see this? I’m sure the EU would be very interested in understanding this appointment.
It may be that BP is being taken advantage of in the post blowout legal environment, but I cannot say that this is unexpected. BP is its own worst enemy. If people are submitting fraudulent claims then BP should fight those claims. It would not be good PR, but their are being played for patsies right now. BP should take a page from Chevron’s playbook. Pay the legitimate claims and fight the fraud.
I am reacting to the article on BP’s difficulties in court in the litigious US environment. BP has a case to answer; no-one disputes that. However the feeding frenzy is a disgrace and another demonstration of “one rule in the US and another for the rest of the world.” In a few days (July 6th) our business will mark the 25th anniversary of the Piper Alpha disaster in the North Sea. It is worth while remembering that the operating deficiencies of Occidental, a US oil company, resulted in the deaths of 167 men. In addition, the survivors have been scarred (physically and mentally) for life and the families have done their collective best to get on with their lives without resorting to armies of lawyers. In contrast, 11 men died in the Deep Water Horizon episode. That is certainly 11 too many but not the same scale of human disaster as was Piper Alpha. The sums being talked about as “justified compensation” for the deaths, environmental damage, loss of earnings beggar belief and could eventually destroy the company. In addition, a number of BP employees could end up with lengthy custodial prison sentences. In contrast the “damage” suffered by Occidental was derisory being Â£110 million paid to the survivors (considerably less than Â£1 million per man) and not a single Occidental employee or company official was prosecuted in a court of law. To add insult to injury. Occidental’s lawyers spent considerable time and effort following the payments trying to recover the money from contractors on Piper Alpha, pursuant to indemnity
obligations in contracts, which were common in the North Sea at the time of the disaster.
Perhaps John would consider removing the BP related articles and the associated sickening comments from the US free loaders as a mark of respect to the Piper Alpha victims and their families. In the meantime I recommend all those who follow this site make a point of watching the newly released film concerning Piper Alpha “The Night The Sea Caught Fire: Remembering Piper Alpha”.
Does the presence of Simon Henry at the Bilderberg meeting with Voser and Ollila provide a clue to Voser’s successor?
Speaking of defamation, I bet RDS defamed that fellow whom they tried to get possession of his ‘classified’ IP. I bet they made up all kinds of unkind remarks and spread them around. Any Bets ??
So, RDS, et al, conspired to boost the price of oil. Let’s say they managed a $10/bbl increase. At 20 million bbls/day that means the US economy took a $36+ billion hit per year. Over 10 years that is real money. RDS is in deep trouble. In fact, they conspired (albeit indirectly) to defraud the US government. I think someone will go to prison for this.
Relieved: Apart from the regulatory vultures, I presume there is scope for class action suits. This could potentially be on a similar scale to the reserves litigation
Looks like the regulatory vultures smell blood and are beginning to circle.
The so-called energy company of the year award granted $hell by Platts is a complete mockery! This action is shame and sham of what any the lowest level competence and excellence, best practice and corporate social responsibility stands for. The Platts is a total joke, thus demonstrates gross negligence or like $hell, is derelict of the duties it claims to provide to the public. If a company which deliberately overstate its oil reserves and paid huge fines to avert prosecutions, illegally fixes prices, lies to the highest degree, and is corrupt and bribes and kills (poisons the environment and people) to make profit can win any reasonable groups’ award. Then the world is going nuts. I however know that great people and groups still exist that know groups such as $hell, thus will not grant this Platts’ prevaricated award or mistake.
I understand that the EU and the US Justice Department are also rather curious about the relationship between Shell and Platt’s – something about price fixing?
As Ogoni and someone conversant with Nigerian politics, the corrupt system and how $hell has infested the country with greed, violence, bribery and corruption, killing squads and other kinds of bad and illegal behaviors, including disrespecting the host communities of oil companies. I understand the name of the so-called oil theft game and everyday pollution caused by #hell’s recklessness since 1958 to date. Maybe Londonlad and his likes will read the developing story about an arrested $hell contractor connected with the recent oil theft that led to the shutting down of the trans-Niger pipeline, which he referenced. This isn’t the first time $hell contractors and government officials, the military protecting $hell and pipelines are caught stealing Ogoni oil and from other facilities in Niger delta. $hell recruits and pays people to steal this oil it’s stopped from officially extracting since 1993. Once this lead to fire and leaks it’s $hell that will first go to the press claiming sabotage. What a shame and what a company; sadly the world keeps watching on as this criminal company mature in oil theft, lies, bribery, corruption and killing!
Oil theft dates back to the 1960â€™s in the Niger Delta, it has escalated rapidly since the 1990â€™s . Since the 1980â€™s the greatest cause of pollution (volume wise) is that of theft (i.e. explosions, spillages etc.) caused by Nigerians themselves (just check the internet rather than sticking your head â€œwhere the sun donâ€™t shineâ€). The so called Delta â€œChiefsâ€ profit from sale of the stolen hydrocarbons and from compensation for the pollution THEY have created. Why even today this tabloid website states yet another example of theft causing an explosion, fire and pollution in the Niger Delta. Perhaps your defence of such activities (particularly via using the smoke screen of Shell) could have some hidden reason?
LondonLad: Your proposed scenario is not realistic. You live in the UK where the rule of law exists, and where the legal system has not been corrupted (at least not to a great degree) by the oil industry. The oil industry does not ‘own’ the British government like it ‘owns’ the Nigerian government. You are comparing apples and oranges, and it doesn’t work well.
Hahahahaha, London or Lagos man, those involved in such so-called sabotage are Western business men and women-some may be sponsored by $hell. It’s on record though, that most sabotage are done by government and $hell officials. The security task-force saddled with the responsibility of monitoring these pipes and $hell recruits for oil theft are those doing this act and Western (including UK) business people buy the stolen oil. The real point though, like I said before in a quizzical form and you couldn’t answer is: when did the so-called sabotage tied to militants and others of the host communities began? $hell has been spilling oil in Ogoni/Niger delta recklessly since 1958 to date. You do the math. Also, are there armed forces men and women guarding oil pipes in UK? The answer may be no. Why in Nigeria? $hell, which is your precursor can tell you why. But first, it’s its greed and determination to poison the host communities.
I wonder what would happen in the UK if I blew up the oil pipeline, that runs close by my house, which then caused oil to pollute my garden. Do you reckon I could get millions of pounds compensation via the UK (or even US) courts? Perhaps I should get some of these Ogoniâ€™s that regularly try this to help me. How much dash would they need Ben â€œif thatâ€™s your real nameâ€ Ikari?
$hell’s dubiousness in spill reporting isn’t new. It happened that the world didn’t listen due corporate influence and benefit from cheap Ogoni/Niger delta oil. Ogonis have exposed the crook known as $hell long ago-that’s why the company killed Ken Saro-Wiwa thinking he’s the only issue left. $hell Oil is a scam and should be banished if those operating it feels they’ve been bashed so much considering how reckless, corrupt and deadly they are. If the company’s management can’t show respect and decency for people and the environment as evidence seems to show across the board that they don’t. Then the rogue company should cease to operate or exist. How can any good thinking society condone such octopus, anaconda and bloodsucking cult known as $hell?
Going by the story titled: “How Shell is trying to send a chill through activist groups throughout the country” and posted to this link. Those who know the crooked and deadly company are aware of the fact this company feels it’s good at-intimidating and silencing people. The one group it can’t silence no matter the circumstances, and it knows that, is the Ogoni people. Well, I do hope this case mentioned by the referenced story will turn against the company. This way our free speech and rights to protest and petition as guaranteed by the First Amendment can be protected. If to the contrary, America is doomed as a corporate cow, after it fell for corporate influence in Citizens United Vs. FEC, and Kiobel vs Shell (among others), which were both ruled in corporate favor by a reportedly business friendly Supreme Court, which seems to not care about people and their rights, but corporate dominance.
Oh if you guys really knew the story behind OPL245 and the Malabu / Etete angle!!
LondonLad: Just for grins I googled ‘LondonLad. Hmmm. It is none of my business, but you might want to change your call sign, buddy. Cheers.
LondonLad: Where or where have you been ??? We have missed you and your cheerful disposition. Welcome back !!
â€œSomeone once said (and I wish I could remember who)â€ â€“ I thought it must be you Relieved as you seem to like the sound of your own voice!!! Oh, and if RDS didnâ€™t write down their code of ethics you would be griping about them not doing this.
We all know RDS owns Jiffy Lube in the US. Rumor has it that the engine oil sold at Jiffy Lube is not newly refined motor but recycled motor oil. Can any one confirm this ??? If so, I wonder if RDS (Jiffy Lube) is letting its customers know they are getting second hand oil. My guess is that everyone thinks they are buying newly refined motor oil. What ever happened to truth in advertising ?? Sounds like RDS may be engaged in deceptive trade practices. Would anyone be surprised ??? Here is an web advert link by Jiffy Lube about used motor oil : Jiffy LubeÂ® A Second Life for Your Used Motor Oil
Someone once said (and I wish I could remember who): ‘If you have to write down your code of ethics you have already lost the battle.’ That is clearly the case with RDS.
RDS management has a serious problem with hubris, but that is common amongst the management of large corporations. However, the lesson of some recent, and now infamous, corporate exec’s stuffed with their own self-importance(e.g., those of Enron Corp., etc.) can be found in the line by Socrates – “Those whom the gods would destroy they first make proud.”
Relieved: I know and you are completely correct. But our politically correct pointy haired bosses had lost all rationality in the transformation process. I fear this happens in most big processes.
To Old EP Hand: I consulted for Enron on that India project and those damned fools negotiated themselves into bankruptcy on that deal. To break even on their power plant project Enron needed 10 cents a kilowatt hour for their power. In India ??? There was no way the government was going to allow Enron to charge those rates for power. Enron got taken to the cleaners by what they considered 3rd world fools.
In 1969, Unocal caused a blowout in the Santa Barbara Channel which led to industrywide restrictions on the areas open for offshore drilling. Many of these restrictions are still in force today. Shell may have achieved the same result in the Arctic.
Hi there, I read your new stuff like every week. Your humoristic style is witty, keep it up!
Stumbled on your website just now – just recently an event took place in Rotterdam, the Netherlands.
Me and a couple friends protested on the last day of the event, and here’s some stuff i wrote on the event. Thought it may interest you.
As the concentration of carbon dioxide has reached a record high level in the atmosphere, Shell is currently busy with one of the dirtiest type of corporate propaganda â€“ promoting itself as sustainable and concerned about the environment by spending an extreme amount of money to distort the minds of Dutch elementary and highschool students and sending them a message that couldnâ€™t be much farther away from the reality that we face today.
The public relations conducted by Shell demonstrates the extensive instrumentalization of human psychology specialized to alter the young minds and hearts to effectively mould their perceptions of the world, corrupt their values and infiltrate the language. Shellâ€™s intention is clear: to align the mentality of these students with the corporate ideological line of multinationals like Shell which are exploitative and oppressive (think of what happened in Nigeria, Iraq), overshadowing the unethical implications of their global operations, keeping their perspectives narrow and teaching them to accept this as normal. The event involves a fanfare that has the appearance of Disneylandâ€™s themepark with the look and feel of MTVâ€™s sweet sixteen-birthday extravaganza.
The facts are obvious, even the International Energy Agency recently stated that most of the oil must stay in the ground if we want to avoid catastrophic climate change. Thereâ€™s a very simple way for Shell to show that it cares about the environment â€“ stop taking part in the problem!
Shellâ€™s track record, scratch that â€“ criminal record, shows that it has no intention of changing its course â€“ its actions are inhuman, savage and needs resistance.
All the best,
To LondonLad: Chill out, buddy. We all get to have our say on this blog so long as we don’t get too carried away.
Well â€œOutsiderâ€ your just like the Donovanâ€™s with the little add-ons!! All I stated was that trying to reduce the tax bill by RDS was, for the share holder, the correct thing to do. Your add-on about costs, the running aground etc. were NOT condoned in my commentary. All I was addressing was the taxation aspect.
Londonlad: RDS’ actions in Alaska would appear to show a complete disregard for safety and responsible management, especially with the benefit of hindsight. Although nobody was killed or injured, this was only through shear luck. Either the risks were badly assessed or risk management was completely lacking. $90 million in costs to date, and public ridicule are far too high a price to pay for trying to save $6 million in taxes. The $5 billion invested in the Arctic to date has also been jeopardised, if not lost. If this is what you expect as a shareholder, I suspect that you are probably alone in viewing the events in such a charitable light.
So what if Shell (or any other oil company) moved an oil rig for the purposes of reducing tax payments? Is that really that big a deal in the grander scheme of things? I would expect that 99% of the readers / contributors to this website make sure that they minimize their tax payments (if not then they are rather stupid). As an RDS share holder I believe their actions are absolutely correct. However, running aground was not really advantageous and only allowed tabloid websites such as this to pontificate.
Posted by Relieved
on May 29th, 2013 at 14:32:
I have heard of â€˜slime in the ice machine !!!â€™, an infraction for which public eating establishments are often cited for by health officials, but â€˜slime in the fuel tank ??? This is a first. Slime is a bacterial and algal growth. So, how long does it take to grow â€˜slimeâ€™ in diesel fuel ?? Or maybe a water tank was used to store diesel and it picked up the slime there. Someone sold those folks bad stuff. Really bad stuff.
Posted by uscitizen on May 29th, 2013 at 14:26:
And this is the guye who waxes on about principles. I will testify to the highest authorities that I have never posted under any handle but uscitizen. Tell me John, it is real easy to check IP addresses, how did you validate that I post under different handles. Simple you did not. The bottom line is that you LIED. You are an unethical person. And you insulted 95% of your posters who post with a handle and not their name, DUH! You have proven beyond a shadow of a doubt all that I have accused you of, lying to make your case. You are shameful. And the best part is that when you read this, YOU will know that you have been caught. VALIDATION, great stuff. Lets see how you try to spin and lie about this. Tell folks how you validated that shellwatcher and uscitizen are the same poster, YOU cant!! And you accuse folks of integrity problems??
JOHN DONOVAN: â€œShellwatcherâ€ is but one of many aliases used by this person, who most often posts under the alias â€œuscitizenâ€. The use of multiple aliases is meant to deceive us and other visitors. He does not have enough courage to make postings under his real name and is totally lacking in scruples and integrity. He should use the alias â€œtrollâ€. A thoroughly unpleasant devious individual.
REPLY BY JOHN DONOVAN: us citizen, you are partly right. I have not lied, but I was entirely mistaken in accusing you of using multiple aliases to post comments. Someone else did so, including using the alias usacitizen, that I wrongly thought was you. Consequently you are entitled to and have my unreserved apology, whoever you are. As far as I can see you have always used the same IP address for all of your postings (stretching back to at least 2011).
John, you are a God sent to the Oppressed people, and your great reward is in heaven. Please keep up the good Job. I am strongly convinced by now that $HELL and BP OIL are partners in Crime after reading through the Amicus Brief they filled in support of SHELL in The case:KIOBEL V SHELL in UNITED STATE SUPRME COURT. KUDOS! Please keep up the good Job!
Great to see Sean Churchfield being open and transparent about the mess in Alaska. It’s a pity it will probably not score him any points…
Howdy! This is my first visit to your blog! We are a collection of volunteers and starting a new initiative in a community in the same niche. Your blog provided us useful information to work on. You have done a outstanding job!
I just read the MP’s demand from Google to take websites that spread lies and hate from the Internet. I presume this will mean the end of this site. REPLY BY JOHN DONOVAN: “Shellwatcher” is but one of many aliases used by this person, who most often posts under the alias “uscitizen”. The use of multiple aliases is meant to deceive us and other visitors. He does not have enough courage to make postings under his real name and is totally lacking in scruples and integrity. He should use the alias “troll”. A thoroughly unpleasant devious individual.
Interested parties to this site should review how Shell is participating in the RINS market each day. They are actively hedging buying and selling with the intent to take profits. This is driving the costs of RINS up and ultimately the cost of gasoline and diesel up. This is right in line with the price fixing allegations currently underway. All you have to do is analyze the buying and selling patterns to see the real Shell.
John: Just for grins you might want to post a link to Shell’s business principles. We need to be reminded what an ethical company RDS really is. This latest portrayal by petty government bureaucrats looking to make a name and career for themselves, at RDS expense, and shameless media outlets pursuing mega- advert $$$ is simply scandalous !!! Scandalous, I say !!! Something must be done to shut this nefarious and slanderous behavior down !!!
With the EU raids and discovery for the US legal action, there could be a lot of dirty linen finding its way into the public domain over the next few months
The market for refined petroleum products, including gasoline and diesel fuel, is now an international market. The US exports a great deal of diesel and gasoline to Europe. As a result I fully expect this investigation over market manipulation to expand to the US because the exportation of excessive amounts of refined product, or the apparent exportation of excessive amounts of refined product, can cause price hikes here in the States.
Hmmmm. BP,and Shell are partners in Crime. I now imagine why BP filled Amicus Brief in support of Shell in Kiobel v Shell at Supreme court in America
USCitizen: So glad you are back. Things were getting to be a bit boring and one-sided with only LondonLad to hold down the fort for RDS.
Relieved: Neither Watts, nor vd Veer nor Voser had the good fortune to spend a few years in Cambridge with Lord Madingley of Boots and Coots fame. I think Moody Stuart might have done…
I have not absconded John, just do not have time to waste or breath to waste on folks with a clear biased agenda. Folks who take any data and use it to build their already determined conlcusion. Later – much too busy trying to get my retirement paid for by contractors taking me to lunch twice a year, man these perks are awesome!! Again – get a life.
Maybe we ought to start calling RDS and BP management the ‘Cambridge Boys Club’ or perhaps the ‘Cambridge Mafia’. No ?? Just a thought. Anybody else have any ideas, aside from the usual obscenities.
It seems reasonable to speculate that if the CEO’s of these companies reached a deal on oil prices, then the executive committees of both companies were also involved. Members of their boards of directors may also have been involved. Given that RDS had executives from the US on the exec. committee and on the board I would guess those individuals (retired or not) are also subjects of a wider criminal investigation. Involvement of the US DOJ therefore seems to be inevitable. And who knows, maybe we shall get to the bottom of these ‘damnable and viscous lies and rumors’ about price fixing. Afterall, RDS management is governed by well established corporate ‘business principles’ and would never stoop to such conduct. Dream on, my children, dream on. Don’t you just love the arrogance of power.
LondonLad: While it is true that oil is traded as a commodity on various markets it is also true that the oil companies have been heavy speculators in those markets. That fact has been know for a long time.
The biggest oil price fixers in the UK in order of “fixing” are:
1. UK Government (at a healthy 60%) – FACT
2. New York and London Stock Market traders (non-oil company traders) – FACT
3. Companies that buy up cargo loads of oil and store it offshore for the price to rise then sell at vast profits – FACT
4. Shell, BP, Statoil et. al. – ALLEDGEDLY
Lets face it, as with the LIBOR scandal, it takes more than one or two companies to fix the price of a product.
LondonLad: Correct me if I am wrong, but I seem to recall RDS having the same problem over price fixing in the Phillipines.
In the States this alleged price fixing activity could be prosecuted under Federal conspiracy and Racketeering statutes (i.e., engaging in organized crime), among others. People would/could go to jail for a very, very long time if convicted of such activity.
Interesting to see on the ITV website that they state : “The price of petrol at UK pumps has increased significantly since 2004, but the majority of that is down to tax.” Most people should be aware the biggest thieves with regard to oil price “fixing” are the UK Government – 60% tax at the pump AND that does not include the tax at the wellhead of the North Sea. Cameron et al are hiding nicely behind this tabloid story. REPLY BY JOHN: Musaint, you are bunching ITN, BBC News, Channel4News, Sky News, Bloomberg, Dow Jones, The Telegraph, The Guardian, USA Today, The New York Times etc all under the your “tabloid” banner. Seems rather unfair to me. You are right about UK governments, past and present.
Well here we go again!! Oil price fixing and all the little add-ons and innuendos again by the Donovans. Strongly recommend that it’s best to read some of the UK newspapers for a more sensible write up and debate on the oil price fixing. Biggest price fixers? – the London and NY (non-oil company) traders. Why do you have to interweave so many aspects on Shell that you’ve been discussing over the last month or so, most of which are conjecture or alleged? “Royal Dutch Shell was built on price fixing” – bit of a sweeping and unfounded statement I would say. Well “Relieved” I thought you knew all there is to know about Shell as your ingrained negativeness must be based on knowledge of the company, i.e. its Business Principles. Clearly not. REPLY BY JOHN: Hello Musaint, I can recommend some reading material to you so you know the facts. Start off with A HISTORY OF ROYAL DUTCH SHELL, volumes 1, 2 & 3. This vast work was written by eminent historians paid by Shell. When you have read it all, as I have, let me know and I will direct you to further credible, verifiable, reference source information providing more proof confirming what I have stated. The whole evil enterprise was built on price-fixing.
Could some current senior manager from RDS tell us what the company’s business principles (really) are ???
In the same way that LIBOR is used to set interest rates around the world, the price of crude set by Platts is used to determine the value of oil globally. No surprise if oil companies were using similar tactics to their friends in the banking sector.
LondonLad: Given that you agree that RDS management is responsible for their conduct and decisions, then I take it you agree they should be held responsible for what appears to be (according to ‘Washington Observer’) a not so subtle attempt at espionage (under USA law and perhaps the Official State Secrets Act – UK). Correct ?
To LondonLad: Someday you may know my story, but for now it is not appropriate for me to comment. FYI – I did not retire from Shell. I was not so foolish as to hang around that long. Better opportunities beckoned, and there are better opportunities in this world than working for RDS. Believe me, it is a big wide world out there, with lots of better opportunities than working for RDS.
Dear Voser, You have made an impact to Shell. However there are still lots to be done. Put an Asian in the Excom. The old Western business model and management style is outdated. So do Shell a favor before you leave.
Yes “Relieved” one of the objectives of this website is to encourage discussion – and for that I genuinely salute the Donovan’s for inserting comments on the Blog from the likes of myself. Yes I was a good company man for many years – were you? I very much doubt that as the chip on your shoulder from enforced early retirement appears to blinker your thought process. I do love your comment that “RDS management IS responsible for everything it does” – YET AGAIN I ask, did you (YES YOU “RELIEVED”) voice/email/write about your concerns when you were “working” for Shell??
LondonLad – my name IS Maura, what’s yours?!
It think that, in the end, Oxford will find its arrangement with RDS to be a Faustian bargain.
LondonLad: I think that the historical legal precedent that you and RDS are looking with regards to your ‘Donovan Problem’ can be found in the quote: ‘Will no one rid me of this meddlesome priest ?’
Oh, yes – RDS management IS responsible for everything it does. If they aren’t, then who is ???
To LondonLad: I do believe one of the objectives of this blog is to encourage discussion about the way RDS does business. From time to time it manages to do just that.
Just for grins – Being the good ‘company man’ that you obviously are, do you wear underwear adorned with little red and yellow Shell logo’s ?? We breathlessly await your reply.
Not quite the same as the major golf event or large office building. In this instance there is no need to smuggle in a huge bomb or hijack a plane. All that is needed is a relatively small explosive device, or a speedboat suicide attack, as per the USS Cole, to ignite a ready-made gigantic potential bomb. All that’s missing from the billion dollar Prelude vessel is a large target painted on each side. As to your self-appointed role on this website, you are as always very welcome, especially as US Citizen has absconded.
There are far too many “add-ons” and innuendos trying to pull Shell into a story (the tabloid approach as I’ve stated on many occasions). A very good example is that of this terrorist story viz offshore facilities. Hey, what about a refinery viz terrorists in the UK or USA; hey what about a large office in the world viz terrorists; hey what about a major golfing event viz terrorists – the list goes on and on. All can be woven into the name of Shell (and other oil companies for that matter). Get my point yet? No probably not as the Donovans and “Relieved” are fixated with trying to sling mud at Shell at every opportunity. By the way “Relieved” you still refuse to answer some of my basic questions, which are simple to answer. As Donovan has stated many times he merely wants to hold Shell to its Business Principles etc. – a very noble cause indeed; all I want to do is make sure these attacks on this website are based on fact NOT innuendos and half-baked stories.
With Cambridge graduates filling three positions on Shell’s executive committee (Andy Brown, Simon Henry, and Peter Rees) how did anyone get approval to set up a research facility with Oxford??
LondonLad: Me thinks you were an ex-Shell manager. Your lack of objectivity (i.e., brain washing) and immaturity give you away. This discussion about potential terrorist activity directed towards RDS’s proposed floating processing plants is
not irrelevant given the concern of RDS’s investors and insurers.
FYI – a 1 tonne charge of high explosive detonated under the keel of such a ship would undoubtedly break its back, causing it to tear apart and sink. That is how modern torpedoes work. Like it or not these ships are going to be very vulnerable targets, and RDS will need to plan and prepare for ‘hostile activity’ directed at them. It is only prudent. RDS should consult with the RN and SAS about such matters.
LondonLad: Fiction? What fiction? You make a blanket condemnation, but provide no examples – not one – of what you are describing as “fiction”.
One last comment about Shell’s proposed designe for a gas processing vessel of ‘vast size and proportions’. That darned thin has one hell of a freeboard and will be extremely difficult to handle in any kind of a wind. In a ‘big blow’ it may be impossible to handle unless it has very powerful engines.
P.S. The King is Dead, Long Live the King
To the Donovans and “Maura” I think you miss the point. No oil company can fully protect any offshore facility for 100% security and safety. This tabloid story merely highlights what I have said about this website on many occasions – yes, many facts quoted BUT far too much fiction for my liking (perhaps not for the anti-Shell brigade though). And, if Shell did have the SAS to protect a facility? Then guess what this website would no doubt blame Shell for an overkill etc. etc. Damned if you do and damned if you don’t. The Bonga comparison is fact Maura not fiction as you attempt to make out. As for your comments “Relieved” they merely highlight your attempt to blame Shell for everything they do. As stated and asked many times to you : (1) were you given early retirement from Shell ? hence your “problem” with the company; (2) did you complain upwards within Shell with all these negative comments / concerns which you state Shell had when you were working for them? The old “Twaddle Master” seems to have reinvented himself under the guise of “Relieved” – welcome back!
LondonLad: Do you like to dance ??
LondonLad: You complain about me drawing attention to what will be an obvious, but until now, unspoken prime (almost sitting) target for a terrorist attack, but then add to the highlighting of this hugely expensive, gigantic floating LNG facility – a ready-made gigantic bomb, by posting your own inflammatory comment. This in turn has drawn further attention to a sensitive subject and generated yet more comment and more attention. Guess this is going to be another situation like the Arctic, where Shell will have to self-insure because it will be impossible to obtain contingency risk insurance? In conclusion, you are guilty of exactly what you accuse me of doing – drawing attention to a highly vulnerable potential target for terrorist attack. (Surprised you have not mentioned the retirement of Fergie?)
LondonLad – to include ‘The same action was taken by SNEPCO fro their Bonga platform and so far (apart from one incident) it has worked’ in a comment can only be described as either pathetic or hilarious! Ever hear the maxim that some only have to get ‘lucky’ once …
LondonLad: One final comment – Do you remember what a couple of thugs in zodiacs filled with several hundred kilo’s of high explosives did to the USS Cole about 10 years ago ?? As I recall, it cost the USN about $500 million to repair that ship, and they were lucky it didn’t sink. Think about it, buddy. Convince Shell’s investors they have nothing to be concerned about.
LondonLad: My, but you have a nasty attitude towards bearers of unpleasant news. Were you one of those ‘shoot the messenger’ types when you worked for RDS ?? If investors are worried then the issue is something RD Shell management needs to address, not ignored. Investors aren’t experts in the offshore oil business and if they aren’t convinced those facilities are secure investments they won’t back them. So, RD Shell needs to do some convincing and educating. But just between you, me and the fencepost, those big 500,000 tonne proposed ships are going to be inviting targets. Perhaps too inviting. Don’t want to get surprised, do we ?? And we most certainly don’t want to have any industrial accidents either. Remember RDS has the worst industrial safety record of all the majors. I think RDS investors have a right to question policy and ask questions. It is their money, after all, not yours that is at risk.
Don’t know who the idiot trouble-stirrer is who you have given highlight to viz his/her story about terrorists with zodiac boats blowing up offshore activities, but, I think he/she needs to get realistic. No, I doubt very much that RDS design for such terrorist activities – they will however plan with local authorities to help protect their installations (AS OTHER COMPANIES DO). Structural design and security for terrorists are completely different. The same action was taken by SNEPCO for their Bonga platform and so far (apart from one incident) it has worked. If companies designed for terrorist activities then the $/bbl price would be almost unaffordable, even for the subsidized Yanks. As a shareholder I am completely happy with RDS present approach. I think the unnamed contributor needs to understand the offshore business.
For those interested in Shell’s saga with US DoD and DoN you might google ‘DRPM SSP’. These are the folks Shell apparently thinks they can bamboozle. Unfortunately, these people take their mission VERY seriously, they have no sense of humor, they don’t forget or forgive, and they take no prisoners and give no quarter. Shell management would do well to keep that it mind.
Everyone seems to have a comment about Peter Voser’s departure. How about he may just have had it. RD Shell is clearly a difficult company to manage, in large part because of the mediocrity of senior level management. Good old Peter may have simply had enough and decided to hang it up and go do something worthwhile. The cat fight over his successor has already begun and Peter is quickly being forgotten.
I don’t really care who gets the CEO position so long as they give us our offices back and stop reorganizing us. Oh sorry I just woke up!
It’s a pity Voser is leaving. He has made an impact. Suggest Shell put his job in MOR ( managed open resourcing ), So may the best man or women wins.
We salute Voser leaving when high? Wonder who is next? Hope women in Shell lives on.
With Rothermund long gone, and Voser on his way, the only surviving Swiss seems to be Bichsel – and he’s four years older than Voser
Don’t go Peter your Ossls only hope .
For those interested, I would also recommend googling ‘us uk mutual defense agreement.’ It would seem that RD Shell decided to target weapons technologies that are probably shared between the US and the UK. Not the most brilliant idea Shell management has ever had.
For those interested in RD Shell’s taste for US DOD classified technologies I would suggest googling on ‘PEOSUBS’. These are the guys RD Shell has apparently decided (foolishly) to take on and tangle with. RD Shell’s target of interest was apparently, in part, classified acoustics technology. Not a wise decision.
John and Alfred if like many others in Mayo I put my name up front it could lead to problems. Enough said .
I would like to repeat a warning I have made before about postings on this blog. Websites allowing aliases to be used are especially vulnerable to manipulation. That includes Wikipedia and blogs, such as this one. It follows that I can only vouch for the bona fides of postings made in my name or by contributors such as Paddy Briggs, who choose not to use an alias. Some contributors using an alias have built up credibility over the years e.g. “Outsider”
If a CHEIF SUPER in the Irish police doesn’t respond to that OSSL email it’s because he can’t break the link between what’s being said and what happened the dogs in the street in Mayo know whats going on but even they won’t bark about it
John ,when that black boot comes down on you that should be it but OSSL have had the balls to speak up there is no integrity whatsoever in the Shell team I applaud OSSL but think they are screwed as Shell required to silence the matter
Mr Donovan. Thanks for exposing the evil company called SHELL PETROLEUM (SPDC) keep up the good work
To DutchDude: You are correct. All that changes are the additives. But that wasn’t necessarily the case 30 years ago.
Hi Relieved, as far as I know all gas comes from the same tank. Go to any fuel loading point and you will see all different branded trucks lining up for the same delivery point. With a bit of luck the additive added to the tank makes the difference. The marketing boys have to do something, but as far as I could/can tell 99.9% of all gasoline is the same.
Oh, and I didn’t know Shell had the poorest safety record of the industry, I thought BP carried that flag. More info welcome. REPLY BY JOHN: You requested more information.
LondonLad: Are you a trout fisherman by chance ?? Rumor has it that Scotland has great brown trout fishing. So does Montana (the USA). If you like to trout fish go to Google Images and search on Montana Brown Trout. You will see what I mean. Cheers.
LondonLad: Glad to have you and your sense of humor back. You have been missed. I guess I will have to come up with some witty reply to your comments, or I might just let them go. Shell loyalists annoy me. While Shell was once a good company, that is no longer the case. Time to wake up buddy.
For someone who moans repeatedly about Shell, and is like a nodding donkey when it comes to agreeing with negative comments about Shell, I am absolutely amazed “Relieved” worked for Shell for so long. Are your present day gripes because you were given early retirement? – I ask this as it would help in understanding your negativity. As I have said before – did YOU complain to management/team leader etc. about your reservations/concerns about Shell’s working practices when you were actually working for Shell? “My buddies told me Shell gasoline had shortcomings” – did you/they raise the issue upwards or was this merely a moan that couldn’t be substantiated?
P.S. I assume that your term “Gas” means “Petrol” for the rest of this planet?
To anonymous Deltaic. No, Shell don’t hide their brand but they do their damnedest to hide the rottenness behind that brand – bribery, corruption and what is widely perceived as their involvement in the judicial hanging of the Ogoni Nine.
When I worked for Shell I NEVER bought Shell gasoline. Never. I had buddies who worked in Shell’s downstream division who clued me in on the shortcomings of Shell gasoline. I still won’t buy Shell gas. I buy Chevron gas whenever possible because Chevron has the in-industry reputation of best quality control and best product. Motor away America, but be careful about what you put in your tank. Come to think of it, you need avoid Jiffy – Lube as well. That is another sterling Shell operation.
Hope Shell’s planned new floating LNG facility is built to better standards than BP’s ThunderHorse. Remember that fiasco ?? However,given Shell’s sterling record of performance on other major projects I wouldn’t count on it, and neither should Shell’s shareholders.
Just love the drawing that heads up the story “Rage against the boring machine”. Person on the left typifies the demonstrator of these times – hoody and with a scarf round the face to conceal their identity. When in the wrong and fearful of being caught …………….. At least Shell doesn’t attempt to hide its brand. COMMENT BY JOHN: In normal circumstances I would agree with what you say. Unfortunately normal circumstances may not apply in Ireland if the police force is not impartial, but instead acts as a militant offshoot of Shell security, as a result of widespread corruption by Shell.
Wonder what sort of nut jobs this Greenpeace “Whistleblower” site is going to attract? Guess we should all accept that the “revelations” will be non-factual and work from that point.
Excuse me, but even Shell admits it has the poorest safety record of all the major oil companies. That is nothing to be proud of.
Shell’s new IT policy regarding cloud enterprise computing could backfire badly. IT will be a prime target for the Chinese. Sad but true fact of life.
To “Outsider” : Shell is NOT an American company so why should the corporate entity (RDS) be liable to US law for its actions in Nigeria? Americans should remember that the US arm of RDS (aka Shell Oil) was bought out in the 90’s by RDS. Shareholder numbers in the US have no legal standing for such cases either. The development team for Bonga was situated in the US merely because of certain (GoM) deepwater skills judged to then be present in the US. It also allowed many Nigerians to be cross posted to the US to gain certain skills.
Faceless identity- terrified “Londonboy or lad,” my rant is lengthy and yours short. All are rants pointing to a court decision with lots of question marks (treating Ogonis different because they’re different?) that may open up more suits. Also, Ben Ikari is different from Londonboy; why then must we write or talk the same way? Do you really hate human diversity like your master or precursor $hell hate Ogoni and its environment; and hating her more because it can no longer return to kill her children and pollute her land, air and water, yet fears more suits will come from Ogoni?
“Londonlad” or is it Londonboy? Well, Lengthy or short is ranting, if you know the meaning. There are different kinds and shapes of writing, so length will differ as I’ve motioned to you previously. More importantly,I’m one person no one, especially Western media can threaten or abridge my rights to free speech and expression. These among others are natural rights no one gave me, thus shall exercise to the fullest-orally and written. Note also that Ben Ikari isn’t a faceless Londonboy or lad. I will not be you or like you; will not change for you or anyone, period! Lastly, you’d have been right about the Kiobel’s decision if the minority justices didn’t place several question marks on the position of the majority conservative justices, which is the entire decision. Other legal luminaries are also asking questions, which points to the fact that Ogonis are treated differently because they’re different and it’s about $hell and other Western corporations. No matter how long $hell and its cronies such as your faceless self will have their day in a court of moral standing.
In Kiobel et al vs Shell, the US has shown that sense at long last prevails. There, I said that in just a few words rather than a lengthy rant aka Ikari.
I find it amazing that Shell uses the reasoning that it has insufficient connections with the US to make it subject to US law. Why was the development team for the Bonga project based in Houston? How much of RDS stock is held by US citizens or funds? How many times has Shell claimed support from the US taxpayer or authorities as an “American” company?
In Kiobel et al v. $hell, the US has shown that oil is thicker than blood, as was also represented in ’95. This was when former Pres. Bill Clinton chose the so-called diplomatic sanctions, yet buying Niger delta oil misnamed Nigeria’s instead of insisting with economic sanctions that Nigeria/Abacha shouldn’t kill the Ogoni Nine. Having said the above, I thank the US Supreme Court for entertaining the Ogoni case. It’s been interesting to see the court open its door to listen to arguments and address the fabric of the case.
The outcome though, shows a betrayal of the original intent of the ATS, international Covenants, proceedings, other US legal precedents, including Sosa, that was set by the Supreme Court. The deal is simple: corporate influence used by mostly conservatives to protect their interests. It’s such influence that made the Pres. Obama government pretend its foreign interest or policy will be in jeopardy should $hell, which is a US company by adoption face trial in America. The same American government claims human rights is a serious component of its foreign policies, and it supports and fights with victims of these rights. Obama also reiterated this human rights policy position in his Oct. 25, 2012 reply to my protest letter of August 31, 2012.
This foreign interest reverberated severally in the court’s decision as a huge premise for corporate protection. The Justices are respectfully entitled to their opinions, but the disagreement on “reasoning” shown by the minority (liberal) justices and written by Breyer exposes the legal inconsistency or selective justice and hypocrisy brought about by such corporate, commerce/so-called conservative influence. Therefore, this decision is a device to protect $hell, USA and other Western corporations and empowering them to further torture and kill. As with the conservative Justices, what the Republican Party is doing in Congress currently as they struggle to protect corporations and the rich points to why this decision isn’t new to me.
In short, though had little hope, I saw the national interest/commerce dimension from the outset and refused to vote for Obama in Nov. 2012, therefore my protest letter cited above. Finally, in the decision, the over all argument that $hell has little presence in New York and being a public trading company on the New York Stock Exchange is inconsequential. No matter how small its presence, $hell is $hell and it’s been doing billions of dollar business in US and with the government (the failed Arctic Mission, for instance) for years. It’s investing in the communities and floating educational and social incentives. It’s also creates jobs for thousands of Americans despite its so-called small presence in New York. Indeed America is benefiting huge from $hell like it also benefited from Ogoni oil and still benefiting from Niger delta oil. The company has huge presence in USA, making it a local company by adoption, even though originally foreign in the books.
In any case, however, Ogonis will have to cheer up for making this bold statement of fact regarding natural, human rights or justice and exposing American hypocrisy on its commitment to internationally protected rights such as rights against torture,other crimes against humanity and genocide, which this case was/is about. There is hope to explore other legal options to seeking justice against $hell, and making oil exploitation in Ogoni harder. Ogonis will not give up despite the fact that the court and US government have approved and protected corporate torture instead of denouncing and providing remedies for victims and punishing the torturer (s) as their books orders.
Well done to the US courts for throwing out the ridiculous attempts by Nigerians to fleece yet another international company, in this case Shell. Why don’t they try Pyongyang next?
To RDS Employee: I am ‘assuming’ nothing. However, from my experience at Shell exploration staff rarely, if ever, indulged in the wholesale G&C production dept. staff loved so much. So, you are correct, not everyone at Shell is tainted.
To Deltaic: I was describing G&C in the US. In fact, it got so bad that one sr. VP of a services vendor had the audacity to complaint to one of Shell’s VP’s that they were getting their fair share of ‘the business’ relative to what they were spending on gratuities, etc. The reaction of the Shell VP was to ‘forbid’ the acceptance of such gratuities by the engineering staff. Not a popular move with the staff, and it only lasted only until the VP retired. Then it was business as usual.
Excellent observation “RDS employee” – I wonder if “Relieved” joined in with all this alleged corruption, bribery and ignoring of Shell’s business principles? Probably did if he knows so much about it – or did he report it to the management or authorities of the country?
RDS man you are correct re integrity however on Corrib I can claim to fill a mini bus of Shell management past and present who are complete strangers to the truth and devoid of any real integrity
Voser is going to act in cleaning up that team watch this space
Relieved, that’s $hell against Ogoni people for you! The crazy and greedy,corrupt and environmentally racist, terroristic company has a standard in Ogoni/Niger delta of Nigeria that is completely different from its Western/American standard. To be fair though, the corrupt, incompetent and deadly Nigerian government, $hell’s partner in crime allows such unhealthy and backward measures. The company may have been is convinced that Ogonis mean business vowing it can’t return to their (our) land. Like you said, the case at the U.S. Supreme Court may also have added to its fear of the seriousness of Ogoni people resisting and exposing her to the world. Ogonis know they can’t trust $hell, and know one should.
Relieved, don’t judge others by your own admitted poor standards. You incorrectly assume that Shell Employees have no integrity yet have no proof apart from your own self admission.
Saw your comments about ‘code of conduct’ etc. Of particular note was the definition of ‘bribery’. when I worked for Shell vendors would trade free season tickets, etc, in return for ‘favorable consideration’ on well drilling, logging, completion, workover, etc. contracts. The vendors were quite successful with this form of G&C (graft and corruption) and Shell’s staff participated in it willingly. It was a petty, back-handed form of bribery, of course. As far as I know, these business practices continue to this day. My point here is that for decades, and on day to day basis, Shell staff have routinely ignored Shell’s vaunted ‘business practices’. And everyone knows about it. This sort of thing goes on at the jr. engineer level to senior management. Shell’s business practices guidelines are a joke.
Is this alledged OSSL invoice genuine or what. Perhaps it’s indeed a fake in order that the likes of anti-Shell folk will eventually look idiots when the truth comes out? That would be such a shame.
Police alcohol . John you will hear no denials because the details you have are exactly correct the garda locally and nationally are disgusted by Shells handling of this matter they feel for the people caught in the middle but can’t afford to speak
So, 20 years after walking away from their oil fields in Oganiland Shell is NOW going to go back in and decommission those facilities ??? Maybe the case before the US Supreme Court has finally gotten their attention. Those folks at Royal Dutch are such a responsible lot.
Any company behaving like that in the US would find itself saddled with hefty criminal sanctions and fines, and senior level management would be facing jail time. In this country (the USA) that kind of conduct is clearly criminal.
The ‘special relationship’ between Putin and the Dutch reminds me of another ‘special relationship’ the Dutch had with a fellow named Hitler. As Yogi Beara once said: ‘This is deja vu all over again.’ Well almost. time will tell.
To Deltaic: Thank you for your vote of confidence, even though it was meant ‘tongue-in-cheek’. FYI, I have spent over 25 years in the industry so I have learned a thing or two, in operations, engineering, and R&D. I would remind you that it was ‘bean counters’ placed in high level executive positions that decided Shell USA should surrender its lease holding on the Alaskan North Slope in the 60′s and early 70′s because ‘there was no way to get the oil to market’. Yep, Shell gave away the Alaskan North Slope to those ‘idiots’ at ARCO, SOHIO, and EXXON, et al. In the end the ‘bean counters’ always make the major strategic blunders because they don’t really have a fundamental understanding of the business and how to mitigate risk. Running an oil company is a card game to these guys. Eventually, they lose big-time.
Do we know what the criteria is for a person to win this Petroleum Executive of the Year? Why wasn’t Relieved given this award – he seems to know so much about Shell and the oil industry?
reading the list of Petroleum Executive of the year reminds me of the list of Nobel Peace prize winners. There are some good people on, the rest is politically correct and/or has paid a lot for the election. Voser is a very poor choice, he does not know petroleum has been involved in screwed up projects and cheating banks. And then I saw a picture of that idiot no-brain Maria van Hoeven, the ultimate token woman on whatever organisation needs token women, and I knew enough….
In reading articles about PV’s failures, TP’s screw-ups and some more local fails by certain individuals, i’ll just say, come-on-karma! The damage done to individual’s lives by the cold-bean-counter-self-serving recklessness of this leadership may only end up being repaid by their own suffering. Perhaps JF may also want to understand the natural laws of causation that is sometimes called karma. No belief in a supreme being is required. COMMENT BY JOHN DONOVAN: I am guessing that “PV” is Peter Voser, “TP” is Tom Purves, not sure “JF”?
Would ‘Bloody Kefuffle’ be an apt (and polite) description of RD Shell’s Alaska program, or am I being redundant ?
You gotta love those business principles of Shell. An example to all corporations aspiring to fame and fortune. Or is that infamy and fortune ???
With regard to those loans Shell made available to its senior level management for legal defense. I presume they were all paid back in full ??? If not, I presume they were declared as ‘income’ and those individuals payed the appropriate level of income tax ??? Does anyone have any insight to how these loans were closed out by Shell ???
Shell anti-Semitic ? Oh, please say it ain’t so !!! Of course Shell is anti-Semitic, but in a low key manner these days. It pays to be anti-Semitic, big time. So that is the way Shell shall do business. Money is money, after all. And Shell is in the business to make money. Given Shell’s well known corporate history does anyone think that Shell is not anti-Semitic ?? Come on, get real.
My comment on tabloid writing refers to your usual “Shell add-on” to any article even remotely linked to Shell. In this case to the article from that well known and read paper “The Epoch Times”. Sorry, but I prefer to believe what I read in journals from the Royal Horticultural Society. REPLY BY JOHN: You are spinning again. This is not an article remotely linked to Shell, but one that directly names Shell. The conclusions are categorical in relation to Shell chemicals.
I did not realize you were such an expert in entomology and beekeeping, etc. A retirement passtime perhaps ?? If so, with all that honey apparently at your disposal one would think you would have a sweeter disposition.
I am sure (at least I hope so) that the article about Shell killing off the bees is tongue in cheek, however, having seen some of the twaddle recently on this site I am not so sure. Would suggest you read the article from the Royal Horticultural Society (somewhat more reliable than tree hugging articles you have published) to give a more balanced summary of the problem.
Indeed if you “spray it directly onto the bees they may be harmed” which together with “incorrect application by farmers” of pesticides will potentially harm bees. Bottom line here is that if the people who use pesticides don’t read the instructions then it is their fault, not the likes of Shell. Reading in depth (for example as mentioned on such “reliable” left wing channels as the BBC, e.g. Bill Turnbull who is an avid beekeeper) THE main problem is the parasitic mite “Varroa”.
Once again tabloid writing on this website helps it to loose a great deal of credibility. (You should have issued this stupid story yesterday on 1st April !!) REPLY BY JOHN: MUSAINT/LondonLad, You seem to forget that the article was published not by a tabloid, but by The Epoch Times, which publishes in 35 countries and in 21 languages. Extract from their mission statement: “The Epoch Times is an independent voice in print and on the web. We report news responsibly and truthfully…” With regards to the other “tree hugging” articles, are you referring to the one about Shell’s toxic contamination in Curacao or killing off workers in Brazil? In the latter case, Shell/BASF have agreed to pay $316 MILLION in compensation to workers exposed over three decades to toxic chemicals. Unfortunately you are making an April fool of yourself. Might be an appropriate time to buzz off and switch to a new unblemished alias, again.
T from L regarding your last comments a trust was broken threats were made a world class company responded like an ally cat OSSL challenged them and should be applauded for their courage in doing so . On a difficult project sometimes moves are made to ease the passage and advance the progress we all in the industry know that however you don’t leave a shitty mess in the corner like this you tidy it .
The invoice is correct as were the previous police alcohol invoices .
To George Hamilton: you confirm exactly what I assumed – the “invoice” is not an invoice but some half-baked attempt of one-sided Minutes of meeting. As you so eloquently say: I am not aware of the details – and I don’t claim to – I am just challenging the authenticity of the “invoice”. In fact, by this OSSl, if the whole booze story is true, admits to being involved in fraud and corruption, which is something any lawyer/legal department for any company would advise against strongly…. And please, don’t start with the “small very honest company loses it’s virginity due to the big bad Shell bear”… If this whole story is true and what is stated on the “invoice” is true, OSSL, if they employ anyone with more 2 brain cells, knowingly agreed to be involved in corruption….
Hello tired from lies .. You have no background to go on I think your nom de plume should be blind to the truth
The invoice is correct Shell have been aware of the debt since they organised the booze for the police in Dec 2007 instructions on alternative wording for the invoice were promised by Shell Senior personnel on the Corrib Project but failed to materialise the last straw for OSSL was to raise an invoice clearly stating exactly what was supplied and how it was supplied READ THE INVOICE ALL PARTIES INVOLVED ARE NAMED . Also in an attempt to sort things out MICHAEL CROTHERS CEO SHELL Ireland informed OSSL he did not know how to Pay for the alcohol .. Then went on to explain that it was OSSLs problem HOW ? The two previous years alcohol was also supplied at Christmas to the police and paid by SHELL in a disguised invoice at their insistence
To Outsider: No. But in order to avoid such an event Shell’s 2nd rate safety record needs to be made public so that everyone knows what kind of ‘Touch F* All’ attitude Shell has not only towards the safety of its staff and contractors, but obviously toward the magnitude of environmental damage they could do if they had a major incident. I think that Shell management thinks they can ‘put in the fix’ politically should their be a major incident by greasing the palms of the appropriate politicians in Washington.
John, you had your own business – have you ever come across an invoice like the one OSSL claims is authentic? I can tell I never have… It’s so obvious a fake that your own credibility and of this site will suffer from it. I understand your long standing quarrel with Shell, but let’s avoid moving into la-la land and making a caricature out of ourselves… REPLY BY JOHN: I made it clear that we do not know if the invoice is authentic. If Shell or the Garda says that the invoice is fake, then we will remove it and publish nothing further about the OSSL/Shell dispute. I can say that the invoice was supplied by our regular contact with OSSL. When this company first contacted us in Sept 2012, we took up the allegations directly with Shell, but Shell did not respond. This was before we published a single word on this matter. The invoice was supplied to us along with a covering email dated 27 March 2013 purportedly sent by OSSL to senior people at Shell (including Peter Voser) and to a senior Garda police officer. In my view the whole situation is bizarre. In normal circumstances the police should step in to investigate, except that they are accused of being a main beneficiary of the alleged corruption. Irish Shell was a regular client of ours. Lovely people to deal with at that time, 30 years ago.
John – The Shell Alumni News is probably intended to be an “in house” publication. However, it is included in the public website for Shell Canada and US. I was made aware of the article by a retiree who received the printed copy of the publication at her home. I went to the Shell Canada and US website and found the article. So – while probably intended to be “in house”, the publication is in the public domain free for all to see.
Told you so OSSL complied with Shells requests then when thought the better of what was going on crushed them like a bit of shit to cover their tracks sound familiar any one ?
Deep poo is also on the cards for Shell Corrib outrage at treatment of small vendor is growing partners Statoil and Vermillon Oil demanding answers on police alcohol claims
Relieved: In Norway, they don’t use rigs that are 40 years old, they have a regulator with teeth, and they have employees who refuse to undertake tasks they consider to be unsafe. The Norwegians learned the hard way after the Alexander Kielland and other incidents. Do we need an event on the scale of the Ocean Ranger/Piper Alpha/Alexander Kielland in the US before somebody wakes up?
In the 1980′s Shell drilled in Alaska, from manmade islands and from drillships and had no unusual difficulties like those that they have experienced this year. So, what gives ?? Are complete incompetents running the management shop ??? Shell USA clearly needs a housecleaning at the top because it is apparent those people have no real idea what they are doing. Shell doesn’t have these kinds of problems in Norway. Maybe there is a lesson to be learned there.
Don’t tell me I always support Shell and their staff/ex-staff/principles/methodologies etc. Seems like an ex-exploration manager of Shell (Nigeria) has been a bit of a naughty boy :
There is an older drill ship than the Noble Discoverer; the Noble Roger Eason was built in 1963.
Maybe Marvin Odum will next blame those elusive but pesky Arctic winged monkeys for Shell’s problems. Shell afterall is a zero-defect company. What ???
John – The Odum quote is from the March 2013 issue of Shell Alumni News.
The article starts on page 3:
How about Petr Sharpe? Isn’t he the one accountable for drilling. Poor David Lawrence, what does he know about drilling.
Maybe this island nation of Curacao can bring a suit in US Federal Court for clean-up costs and other damages under the Alien Tort Statute after we find out how the US Supreme Court rules this spring ??? After all, the pollution at this site was done deliberately an knowingly, and quite maliciously. Shell knew what kind of problem it had on its hands, but the locals didn’t. Shell snookered them.
Aaagh back from almost 3 weeks escape from our lousy cold winter (yes Greenpeace, cold, despite your pontification about these “bad” oil companies) and I find myself agreeing with “Relieved” (well almost). Shell is indeed run by bean counters – has been for the last 20 odd years. The lack of someone like Roel Murris to tell these bean counters to eff off has clearly come back to haunt the explorers of the company. Not sure that I agree with the statement that there is more potential in the America’s oil/gas shales than the Arctic – the Americans appear to be able to screw up the development of both (physically and politically).
P.S. Pity about Dave Lawrence falling on his sword, but, it was always said that he was like Mathius Bichsel but without Bichsel’s sense of humour (which is no advert when comparing to an inbred Swiss).
Shell’s failure were engineering and operational failures, not exploration failures. Shell should be doing major housecleaning in operations and drilling dept.’s. And by the way, the resource that is changing the energy picture of the America’s are the oil and gas shales just now being exploited. There is more potential in those that in the Arctic.
The Shell of the past is history. Now Shell is run by ‘asset managers and bean counters’ who have no fundamental understanding of the business.
I recently read the following comment from Marvin Odum regarding the Alaska fiasco: ” this was a marine transit issue that occurred after completion of our exploration program and well outside our theater of operations”. Give me a break ! This is a classic example of Shell trying to assign blame and responsibility to other parties. It was Shell who decided to use very old and outdated equipment, as well as attempt to move this equipment during horrible weather conditions. Shell has to take full responsibility for its’ operations, regardless of whether it is “drilling”, “marine transport”, etc.
I have finished reading through the US Dept of the Interior Report “Review of Shell’s 2012 Alaska Offshore Oil & Gas Exploration Program” dated March 8, 2013. One observation contained in Section E “Shell’s Operational Oversight and Management Systems” caught my eye.
Quote:Shell’s focus appeared to be on compliance with prescriptive
safety and environmental regulations required for approvals and authorizations, rather than on a holistic approach to managing and monitoring risks identified during operational planning.Unquote
What has happened to the development of the full safety case approach and its subsequent challenge & review which Shell insists is the norm before embarking on such an operation? How often do senior people take it upon themselves to “have a good look” once in a while? Or are we witnessing the inevitable consequence of having a Swiss bean counter in overall charge of the company compounded by Technology, Projects and Safety run by a Swiss “my way or the highway” explorer? Of course it may be that the US arm of EP or “Odum Shell” does things its own way, free at last from the pesky RoyalDutch strictures (re)developed in the 2000s in the pursuit of technical and Operational Excellence.
The company was once a byword for technical and operational proficiency but that was consigned to the dustbin of history by a previous bean counting Chief Executive Cor Herkstroter. Sadly, the question does remain:
“Shell, waar ben jij nu?”
A worker is killed at a Motiva refinery, and then there is the story about Brinded. Ah yes, Shell has an impeccable culture of safety in the workplace that begins at the top and works on down through the system. Ya, Right.
Very surprise that Peter Voser pay and bonus has gone up because of US and China growth. US operation is bleeding with high overhead and low gas price while China Gas is still alot of hot air. Get real man.
Peter Sharpe as Drilling Chief should give back some of his shares and bonus to the Alaskan and Kulluk fund.
I wonder what Marvin Odum and Pete Slaiby made off with. They did such a beautiful job in managing Shell’s Alaskan operations this year. Well done !!! What ????
Voser may make big bucks, but Ken Laye, CEO of Enron, got $30 million a year. There are big time crooks and small time crooks.
Fraud, theft, blackmail, bribery, extortion, blackmail, espionage, and what else. Oh, yes – kidnapping, torture and murder in Nigeria. These are the sort of activities RD Shell engages in when it suits their purpose. I say this in all seriousness because Shell is routinely prosecuted for these types of transgressions.What a great company to work for.
To Washington Oberver: I was simply responding to Relieved’s comment that it was a case of Americans spying on Americans. Shell Oil (the US affiliate) is wholly owned by Royal Dutch Shell plc.
Royal Dutch Shell plc is a British company, headquartered in The Hague, the Netherlands. The majority of its employees are non-US citizens
This is for Outsider: What are you implying ??
To Outsider: That point is irrelevant to this discussion. As I understand the matter from what information is available, apparently Shell USA decided to engage in the equivalent of a legal mugging to obtain title to proprietary IP for which they had no legitmate legal claim. Nothing new here, they steal IP all the time. As I read the situation, they weren’t even sure what this fellow actually had, otherwise they could have taken him into court. That did not occur, and for a number of reasons. My guess is the biggest hurdle is they couldn’t say what he had and, equally important, all statutes of limitations had probably expired for Shell to make any legitimate claims against this fellow. In short, it looks like Shell didn’t have a case to make. I do believe Shell only had 4 years max. to press their case in court.
There is clearly more to this story, and I am certain Shell was walking on extremely thin ice in matter at best. The security issues mean they stepped in a pile of legal horses**t, big time. NCIS does not initiate criminal investigations of large corporations without just cause. Trust me. Where there is smoke there is fire.
Relieved: you seem to have overlooked the fact that Shell’s US technical and research functions have a very large contingent of non-US nationals from all over the world.
John, I read your ‘Spooky Affair …’ article. Not your usual fare on this site. Normally I wouldn’t bother to spend any further time on such nonsense but I decided to educate myself a little bit. Anyone with better knowledge is free to correct me if I am incorrect. As I understand the situation and US law (from what is available online) this proprietary IP and classified ‘Restricted Data’ that Shell was supposedly trying to lay their hot, corrupt little hands on is by nature considered so sensitive that only those people with a legitimate ‘need to know’ can get access to it. In fact, as I read the law, even the President of the US cannot gain access to that information if it has been determined he has no ‘need to know’. As I read the law information is classified SECRET if release would do ‘serious’ harm to US national security interests. It is classified ‘Top Secret’ if release would do ‘GRAVE’ harm to US national security interests. As I further understand the situation, those with access to ‘Restricted Data’ are required to have a DoE ‘Q’ level security clearance. This is apparently equivalent to a Top Secret level DoD security clearance. Furthermore, ‘Restricted Data’ is apparently classified at the Secret level, at a minimum.
So, as this story goes Shell was apparently trying to obtain access and ownership of proprietary IP that was classified as
‘Restricted Data’ and was related to what? Nuclear weapons design!? This is information the President of the US cannot get access to if he has no ‘need’. Furthermore Shell clearly had/has no legal right to have access to this material or to own it. Obviously, the release of said information to Shell could possible cause ‘serious’ or ‘grave’ harm to US national security interests, which is why they cannot get access to it on their own. Am I on track here ? My question is: Who the F*** sam hell is running Shell USA!! Are these retarded pea-brained jackasses out of their F*** minds !! The arrogance, hubris and incompetence displayed by this kind of conduct by senior Shell USA (obviously) management is utterly mind boggling. If this story is true, and the media takes it up and runs with it Shell’s brand name in the US is history. Toast. Trash. And Shell can expect a serious consumer and political backlash. All Shell pensioners and shareholders should take RD Shell management to task over this kind of (obviously) criminal misconduct on the part of Shell USA management. Through the damned S.O.B.’s out and hire someone competent for heavens sake. Their performance in Alaska is cause enough for that, but now we learn about this little ‘espionage’ caper as well ?? Americans spying against Americans. Give me a break. Make the bastards walk the plank.
I would like to repeat a warning I have mentioned before about postings on this blog. Websites allowing aliases to be used are especially vulnerable to manipulation. That includes Wikipedia and blogs, such as this one. It follows that I can only vouch for the bona fides of postings made in my name or by contributors such as Paddy Briggs, who choose not to use an alias.
Did Shell dupe this man or was the man in the hat acting alone ? A shareholder asks is he still in the hat ? If so it was a Shell instruction
Landowners demanding answers from Shell in Mayo and getting none so shareholders don’t hold your breath very poor management situation on the Corrib Project
Can we take it that SHELL will take a close look at the
MAN IN THE SHELL HAT
Situation before the AGM some response required I think what’s going on over there ?
Read the article about Shell’s crystal ball into the future. What utter crap. 10 years ago their crystal ball has nothing to reveal about the revolution in the drilling and fracturing of source rocks. And I am certain their crystal ball had nothing to say about how their Arctic (mis)adventures were going to proceed. If we go back to 1910 I am certain Shell’s crystal ball had no inkling of WW1, WW2, the great depression, the cold war, atomic energy and the atom bomb, etc., etc., etc. That Shell document is absolutely worthless. If Utter BS. If Shell is lucky the might be able to sort of gauge events 5 years into the future. Beyond that they are playing games.
Hello “LondonLad,” I noticed you mentioned me in your recent post and got it wrong on the issues I speak to. Be informed for the last time that I am Ogoni. I speak for Ogoni or to Ogoni issues, which borders around Nigeria and $hell, your precursor. I don’t speak for Nigeria. Therefore, I don’t know what you claim $hell has done for or in Nigeria that is positive. What I know for sure is that, $hell hasn’t done anything positive in Ogoni but stole ( may be stealing more currently) Ogoni oil, collaborating with the Nigerian government to bribe some feeble and greedy Ogonis. The joint-venture holders have also been trying to intimidate those who speak out against $hell’s terrorist and devilish acts. They’ve invaded, destroyed Ogoni communities, killed the people and degrade our environment as attested by UNEP report. Ogonis whose sources of livelihood have been fishing and farming are completely deprived of their close to heart lifestyle by $hell and Nigeria both of whom I dislike for their criminal behavior and speak against. Ogoni is an environmental time-bomb waiting to explode, courtesy Royal Dutch $hell’s greed and incompetence.
John – why do you bother responding to the ramblings of LondonLad / Musaint? In a sense you are giving his contributions a form of “credibility” by taking the trouble to respond. I believe the majority read what he has to say (if we bother reading at all) and just go “ho hum”! REPLY BY JOHN: Fair comment.
REPLY TO LONDONLAD/MUSAINT: Note that you are unable to provide a single example of anything stated as fact by us that is untrue. Your latest comments are just a rehash of what you have stated before under various aliases. You did once tell me in email correspondence under yet another name (presumably another alias) that you have a grievance against Shell yourself and will probably one day reveal what it is. I am still waiting. I would be a bit worried about visiting South Africa bearing in mind recent events. Hope you have a good flight and a safe return.
Heh ho I had better sit on the naughty boys chair for a while. However before I go there, as I have stated so many times before, if you don’t like criticism or defence of Shell against some of the stupid comments on this website by people that have a huge chip on their shoulder then either : (1) try and understand why they are defending Shell (yes hard I know for some) against the likes of Greenpeace who have just one agenda – to put us back in the dark ages, (2) actually go to a place like Nigeria and genuinely understand why people like Ben “is that your real name” Ikari blows a great deal of hot air in attempting to blame all and sundry about Nigeria’s woes and totally ignores the huge benefits Shell (and other oil companies) bring to that woeful country, (3) properly educate yourself about the E&P business (don’t try and extrapolate just from a knowledge of sales) and realize that it is a far more complicated business than many try to make out on this website. The main gripe that gets my goat on this site? – the tabloid innuendos that titillate idiots that have no idea about the E&P business. Shame I cannot wait for the lengthy response I’ll get from this, I’m off tomorrow to the outback’s of South Africa for 3 weeks and will even miss the Real Madrid match (ooooo what a give-away!!).
To Texvette: Shell rarely if ever holds it senior management accountable. The only time I know of a senior manager getting sacked was when one was caught banging his secretary in his office during working hours. Shell managers are NEVER responsible for failure. It is their staff that has let them down, either through direct screw-ups or because they ‘gave poor advise’ and caused the manager to screw-up. It is always the worker-bees that are at fault for performance failings. After all, Shell only promotes the best and the brightest to “lead” the company. Ha!! Ha!! Most of those people could ‘Lead’ their way down a dark alley.
John is 100% spot on re Shell’s senior mgt, including their HR cronies, watching this website. It is a joke how much attention they pay to this, looking for the truth among the smoke. Ask Uncle Tom Purves if they read this or not. Oh yea, he is stuck up in the cold north, by Santa Claus. Might be hard to get a question him until the thaw comes. You bet your dollar they read this…
REPLY TO LONDONLAD: I have evidence in the form of Shell internal communications and documents proving this website is closely monitored by Shell management and its lawyers both in the USA and in Europe. In addition, Shell has mounted a global operation monitoring all traffic to this website from Shell premises. All part of an attempt by Shell spooks to trace our insider sources and stop the leakage of highly confidential internal information to us e.g. a database containing contact information for 177,000 Shell employees and contractors. That incident made news headlines around the world. Since 1995, Shell has been publicly complaining about our activities highlighting Shell management misdeeds. Shell has put posters on display at Shell HQ buildings about our campaigning activities, handed out leaflets about us at reception areas at Shell HQ’s, including Shell Centre and The Hague, issued press statements about us and even published an article about us in a Shell internal magazine authored by a Shell Legal Director. Shell is even more fixated by our activities than you are. As to your allegation, made while hiding behind your current alias, suggesting that we sometimes publish fiction, not fact, please provide an example? Should not be a problem if we are as lacking in integrity as your cowardly comment suggests. You have been attacking us for a long time, always hiding behind an alias, sneakily moving to a new one when you deem it necessary. As MUsaint, with theatrical gusto, you promised never to visit this website again, such was your claimed disgust, but soon popped up again using a new alias. Not the behavior of a person of integrity. We never hide behind an alias. Shell, Peter Voser, Simon Henry, Matthias Bichsel, Chris Finlayson, David Pirret, Tim Hannagan, Mark Moody-Stuart, Tom Purves, Keith Ruddock, Malcolm Brinded, the Rev. Phil Watts and all of the other scandal tainted current and former Shell executives and lawyers featured on this website know our names and where we are located. No hiding or deception on our part. I am sure my solicitor, Richard Woodman of Royds, will happily accept service on my behalf of any defamation writs. Richard has successfully represented me in six high court actions involving Shell, two of them libel actions we brought against Shell.
Wake up and smell the coffee “it4us” the RDS senior management have far more important things to do than read articles or blogs on this website. Do you honestly think they want to waste their time reading some of the drivel stated as fact on this website!! Before anyone comments, I do read some of the shorter blogs/articles out of historical interest and in the hope that I can see fact rather than fiction. Rare as hens teeth. I do however, strongly support the comments from “Texvette”. Unfortunately Teflon Bichsel will have had very little input on this venture (this should stir the stirrers), I really wish he had/has however.
Amongst their other shortcomings, RDS senior management have evidently not been reading this site closely enough. Problems with the Noble Discoverer were being pointed out in these columns (by ‘Outsider’ in particular) over a year ago. Another example of the RDS hierarchy being trained to suppress bad news ?
Shell has a history of not holding its’ leaders accountable. In spite of this, I am still amazed that no one in an executive leadership position has not been sacked as a result of the horrendous mismanagement of the Alaska operations.
BP is currently going through a criminal trial over its actions in the Gulf of Mexico. Given that RD Shell is now under criminal investigation for its, and its contractors, obviously deliberate failure to abide by US law, it makes one wonder what sort of criminal action Shell would have faced IF there had been some sort of ‘incident’ last summer. The company could have faced HUGE fines, as BP now faces. Furthermore, it is clear that management decided to take those risks, not with their own money, but with the shareholders money. There really needs to be a major change in RD Shell senior leadership (and I use that term loosely).
Having chugged through inches, closer to feet actually, (for the yanks that’s tabloid speak) of “Shell in the Arctic”, I finally came across an article on Matthias Bichsel that basically stated some mud would be thrown in his direction on this website. When can we expect to read some of this (promised for a “few days”). Yes, even I who will defend Shell on many fronts have a very sour taste in my mouth for this guy.
REPLY TO LondonLad: Posting using a single alias is one thing. I would not do so myself, but it is common practice on the Internet. Posting under multiple aliases is something else. I note there is no denial by you in this regard. I have nothing further to add to the other comments I have made.
It would seem to me that the Dutch side of RDS is slowly but purging RDS of the British side now that RDS is one operating entity.
A very waffled response Donovan to my straightforward comment that I want to have a profitable return on my investment, in this case my Shell shares. Again you use the tabloid expression of “implication” as to what my comment meant. You got that wrong! Do you not want a return on your investments? (N.B. I said nothing about profit or otherwise about this website so don’t give the usual rant about that!) Finally, if you don’t like people using aliases to argue against some of the attacks against Shell then change your methodology for people using this blog.
REPLY TO LONDONLAD: You discussed several issues mainly relating to the Shell AGM and then closed your comments with a sentence saying: “As a Shell shareholder all I want is a nice return on my investment.” The implication being that this is your priority in holding Shell shares above all other considerations. As Musaint and LondonLad you have regularly defended Shell’s indefensible record of plunder and pollution in Nigeria, despite all of its broken promises to end gas flaring; planting spies throughout the Nigerian government; engaging in corruption; conspiring with the leaders of militants attacking Shell infrastructure; dealing with murderous regimes and colluding in the murder of legitimate protestors. All okay as long as you get a nice dividend. I have operated this website and its previous incarnations, all focused on Shell, all on an entirely non commercial basis, declining all donations and all paid advertising. We hold, but have never sold, a variety of Shell domain names, including three Shell unsuccessfully attempted to seize. In short, we have never received a single penny income from operating this or any other website. We put principle first and money last. You do the exact opposite and that includes hiding behind a number of aliases when posting on this website. In addition to the aliases Musaint and LondonLad, you have corresponded with me by email using a third name, no doubt also made up. Says a great deal about you. In contrast I have never used an alias. So yes, compared with you, I do claim to be noble.
So, wanting a return on your investment is now classified as greedy!! I suppose that when you (Donovan’s) invest or were working with Shell you don’t / didn’t want any return / profit. How very noble of you. Actually I would say stupid. Most normal people who need to live in retirement want some form of return on capital invested – are all these to be classified as greedy or just those that comment positively on Shell?
Contrary to what LondonLad says, many UK based Shell shareholders, especially the elderly, are unlikely to attend the AGM when it means traveling to Holland, with all that entails. Some have held Shell shares for several decades. The last sentence in LondonLads comments speaks volumes. Many other Shell shareholders and executives have the same No.1 priority. Pure greed.
So, no audio-visual link this year. Just means that some of the UK shareholders (particularly those with burning questions) will have take a trip across the Channel to The Hague in May – I can thoroughly recommend going as the weather is normally great then. Air fares can be quite cheap, else there’s always the ferry. So no great hardship. May even stroll across myself. As for your “well informed source”, I am afraid that the majority of the company is (and has been) Dutch – so no change there!! And yet again there is the tabloid hype with “they won’t return to Shell Centre” / “they’ll move to a single centre in The Hague”. The first is untrue according to my Shell source and the second (as a shareholder) I would have no problem with, but again very very unlikely unless the lefties such as Clegg & Cable get their way on corporate and personal taxation. As a Shell shareholder all I want is a nice return on my investment.
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REPLY BY JOHN DONOVAN: Liza, we receive many approaches to feature paid advertising on this website, normally via private email rather than open correspondence on our Shell blog. We also receive offers of donations to support our activities. All are turned down. We have always operated all of our websites solely on a non-commercial totally independent basis and that will continue to be our policy. Shell first publicly commented on our internet activities in March 1995. Shell subsequently settled all of the claims it described as being false paying £100,000 per claim, plus all of our legal costs. There was litigation before and after the claims mentioned in Shell’s press statement. The last in 2005, when Shell attempted to seize our domain name royaldutchshellplc.com. Eight bouts of litigation in all. Shell has yet to win any case and wisely decided years ago never to sue us again. Hence Shell is reduced to making empty threats, while we are free to speak out without fear or favor.
Comment by Iain Percival is fairly made. Speaks with considerable authority as the retired Group Chief Petroleum Engineer of Royal Dutch Shell. AllAfrica.com report may have been misled by some news reports of Shell fourth-quarter of 2011 earnings. The following is an extract from an article by The New York Times under the headline: Shell Profit Rises 15%, but Disappoints Investors: “Still, there are reasons to worry about Shell. The fourth-quarter letdown was largely due to lower earnings in Shell’s core exploration and production business, mainly because of weak performance in the Americas. Shell’s high-profile, multibillion-dollar Alaska drilling program has encountered several snags and delays, including the running aground of the Kulluk drilling vessel on an uninhabited island in late December. Mr. Voser said that the Kulluk had been damaged and that another drilling vessel required upgrades. Shell is still weighing its next steps in Alaska, he said. Shell is also being hurt by natural gas prices in the United States that have been pushed down by the boom in shale gas production. Declining prices have led it to switch strategies and drill for gas deposits that are rich in liquids, which bring in more money than gas.” The implication from the way this was written was that there was a linkage between Shell’s problems in Alaska and lower production earnings. Although referring to production earnings, perhaps this caused some confusion to those responsible for the AllAfrica article?
I agree with Mr. Percival’s comments. He is spot-on.
Any delay to Shell’s Arctic exploration drilling programme will have absolutely no impact on hydrocarbon production output in 2013 as reported by AllAfrica. This is just a load of rubbish and I am very surprised it has been posted with associated “oh my goodness” red heading. It indicates a total lack of understanding of the EP business.
About the article regarding Shell and BASF: Shell management knew what it was doing when it relocated its pesticide operations from the US (Rocky Flats, Colorado) to Brazil. Shell management knew many of their workers would contact cancer and that they were condemning them to early and painful deaths. Shell didn’t give a s*** about those workers in Brazil and still doesn’t. Shell’s only concern was profit. Today it only concern is limiting the damage settlement. In 1976, when Shell was forced to shut down its US operation, roughly 96% of all Americans had traces of Shell’s ‘miracle’ pesticides in their blood. And the cancer issue was well known at the time. A $20 million settlement offer for those poor folks in Brazil is chicken feed. Shell should be force to pay billions in punitive damages for the deliberate harm they caused in their quest to extend the life of a very, very profitable, albeit dangerous, line of chemical pesticides.
Can anyone tell me how Shell planned to handle a spill of diesel fuel, etc., from the Kulluk if its tanks had ruptured ? It appears to me that Shell blew off that problem because of weather and simply opted to deal with the problem after the fact. Obviously, they did not mobilize their spill response team because of hazardous weather conditions. Did Shell have a contingency plan ?? I mean, they were supposedly capable of handling any type of spill in any type of weather, correct ?? Right ?? Or maybe their response plan is a lot of smoke and mirrors and hot air.
Dry towing a drillship? Something must be very seriously wrong. And when the Kulluk comes out of the water the damage to the hull will be clear for all to see – look forward to seeing the photographs!
Despite new paint jobs and some remedial work it is clear that Shell’s Arctic fleet is still a collection of refurbished rust-buckets that should have been sent to the breakers long ago.
Definition of “punkahwallah”: “the wallah (boy, servant) who operates a punkah, large cloth fan suspended from the ceiling” (The slang usage is derogatory, of course)
John: All of the information you are publishing about the reserve scandal is interesting, but was ‘known’ about within the greater Shell organization for years. Going back as far as the mid-late 1980′s there was at Shell USA real ‘concern’ about the acceleration in rate of supposed reserve replacement and reserve bookings even though crude production kept declining. These ‘new’ reserve numbers were known to be suspect, but people kept their knowledge and ‘suspicions’ to themselves lest they anger the higher powers. Most alarming at the time was the very real and marked decrease in the production of light crude mirrored by the marked increase in heavy crude production. Shell was getting roughed up badly (financially) by the price differential between light and heavy crudes. In fact, in the mid-1980′s, after the fall in oil prices, it was costing Shell more to produce their heavy crudes (by $4-$5/bbl) in California than they could get for the stuff. This led to the serious financial crisis for Shell USA in the late 1980′s and early 1990′s. Needless to say, many the reserve bookings were fictional. While it was easy for managers to get new reserves booked it was almost impossible to get downward adjustments to early ‘over optimisn’ or ‘pre-mature’ bookings. The end result was a bloated reserve portfolio that needed some serious deflation. Unfortunately, it took until 2004 to get the job done. The real problem for Shell was, and probably still is, a corporate culture that tolerates and accepts misrepresentation and fraud on the part of management, both middle and upper level management. Middle level management lies to upper level management and upper level management lies to the board of directors and the shareholders. The shareholders would be prudent in expecting future ‘surprises’, like the 2004 reserve scandal, from Shell management.
“an old EP hand” : If you read my comment about Aidan McKay properly you will see I call him a prat for his email to Bob Sprague which comes across somewhat badly for McKay as far as I am concerned. I can also say I have no idea what you infer with “Punkahwallah” – I never worked in India or been on any area desk in The Hague working on that part of the world. I’m afraid you’ll have try much harder Sherlock!!
I was surprised to see Alf Thorkildsen in the reserves article, he was until recently CEO of Seadrill and it might have been a problem to lead a major listed company, depending on what his role was (unclear to me). Now he is partner in private equity firm Hitecvision so none of this will matter anymore as his job is to maximise profit and nothing else. Seems he has the experience.
Londonlad, you call Aidan a prat when he worked for you. I know him very well and your remark reflects some deep frustration on your side. If you are who I think you are, this remark: you were once a very good project manager, you appear to have imploded in frustration. Would it be appropriate to change your name from Londonlad to Punkahwallah?
I am hearing that Andrei Galaev has got the chop as CEO of Sakhalin Energy. Not sure if it’s because of incompetence or a move to strengthen Gazprom’s hold.
To “Relieved” : (1) I never said that you and “Texvette” were the same person – that’s like saying Sir Alex Ferguson is the same as Arsen Wenger (yes, I know you people beyond the pond have no idea who these people are – the rest of the world does however), (2) For your latest posting, I would say that BP has led the way and others will follow (oooops got that wrong, you Yanks started the ball rolling with Exxon “Valdiz” !!
According to Voser Shell’s strategy is one that ‘others can’t easily repeat.’ Given the events of the last few years the question is: Who would want to do so ??? Name a few candidates please.
With regard to the Kulluk saga and incident does the old saying: ‘Penny wise and pound foolish’ come to mind ?? You got to love those bean counters at Shell. Who is running this company anyway ?
To LondonLad: FYI – Texvette is a different party. Apparently, you now have two ‘arrogant’ Yanks you don’t care for.
LondonLad,I agree with you that most African govts are greedy, corrupt and incompetent; they’re deranged, but not without Western influence for their interest. Africans should know and do better than the stooges statuses in their land. The continent is old enough to think and act for itself despite the maneuvers from the west. More importantly, bigotry is the last thing on my mind when dealing with the Niger delta/Ogoni or overall African situations linking the west. I fight racism, inequality and oppression, repression of all forms. Also, I live in the west, see what Africans mean to most Westerners:subhumans/beasts good mostly for exploitation. So know the issues I speak to, even though some Westerners and courts are clear minded, humane and credible. The facts are: $hell Intl. makes the rules alongside Nigeria’s subsidiary and supplies necessary tools/advice to so-called $hell Nigeria or SPDC. Also $hell intl gets profit from activities by $hell Nigeria. Remember, it’s $hell intl which organized the monitoring of Ken Saro-Wiwa, whom it saw as a threat to its business and intl image. Brain Anderson (European) was the person in charge of Nigeria’s $hell then. When Saro-Wiwa couldn’t be stopped, $hell intl in collaboration with Nigeria planned with the military govt to kill him. First, $hell denied there was any environmental pollution in Ogoni where it started business in 1958 to 1993 when it said it’s stopped due to agitation against pollution, etc. Not even an iota of sabotage was raised by $hell at the start of Saro-Wiwa-Ogoni struggle in ’93. Then $hell asked Saro-Wiwa to withdraw his campaign that was hurting her. He refused and was trumped up by $hell and govt, using their media power, mostly Western. Anderson asked Owens Wiwa to tell his brother Saro-Wiwa to recount the environmental problems in Ogoni and he will regain his freedom. Saro-Wiwa turned the offer down. Finally, the so-called $hell Nigeria is just a name aimed at shelving responsibility; Nigerians don’t own $hell Nigeria, though locals are hugely employed up to MD. It’s common sense that localization doesn’t expressly mean ownership. $hell Nigeria isn’t a national oil company. These are the facts and the Hague court know this. Where then does bigotry come in, other than that the court is protecting the interest of its govt and corporation such as $hell? The court dropped all cases against the home office in Netherlands, where it sat and agree with $hell that Niger deltans are the polluters as though are corporations such as $hell, which pollutes and kills to make profit. $hell’s profit go to its home government, which runs the court, and help the development of Netherlands, Britain, etc?
Relieved, you’re right. And also I understand the issues of plaintiffs’ onus to prove their case. Evidence and the truth haven’t mattered so much where huge govt and corporate interest lies against foreigners as in this case. The courts have mostly considered national interests, especially when dealing with this kind of case. Obviously, there could be some problems for $hell, but to what degree, and how could this problem help or truly solve the Niger delta problems when the Nigerian govt is foreign govts and $hell’s stooge? The probable in-road created by this decision will be harder to follow, just as redeeming fines or penalties against $hell as clear in the Bodo-$hell case in London. So the court knows what it did and especially accepting $hell’s blame on citizens and dropping charges against $hell Intl, which makes the rules and collects the profit from Nigeria.
I found the emails interesting and indicative of the deception Shell management was clearly engaged in. They were trying to exploit the events of 9/11 to their benefit. What these emails could have done at the time they were written is cause Shell’s stock to drop significantly. I don’t think they will have any impact now. However, the emails do give a clear indication of the attitude Shell management has for Wall Street’s superficial approach to investment strategies.I do know Bob Sprague, but not well. He was a typical Shell USA manager. It is obvious from these emails that Shell management was not telling the investment community the truth about reserves, rate of reserve replacement, real rate of return on investment (ROR), and so on. It is also obvious that they really didn’t care if they were being factual or not. Their primary concern seems to be about getting caught in ‘a big lie’ about all the above. They were also clearly trying to use the events of 9/11 to their advantage if investor ‘expectations’ were not met, and as a means of ‘covering their tracks’ regarding previous deceptions. It is an interesting set of emails and clearly indicates that Shell management deliberately misled their institutional investors. It seems they were trying to keep stock prices from taking a tumble if the investors knew things were as they had been told. These emails clearly indicate deliberate fraud on the part of Shell management.
So, Ben “if that’s your real name” Ikari, it really seems that you are a bigoted African who cannot accept that independent Africa (yes, independent) cannot look after itself and merely wants to blame everybody else for its failings. Sub-Saharan Africa remains a joke on the world stage because it acts like an immature child who always wants to blame others and not admit to its own failings. As I have stated so many times, Shell is NOT to blame – please look to yourself and your corrupt, bankrupt, government for the problems that your country is in.
BBC website today : “Detective jailed for News of the World leak” – I just wonder if and when we will read “Shell staff jailed for leaks to tabloid website”? Note : Shell staff have / had signed contract obligations that are / were in place……. However, I must say that these leaks do make for lovely tabloid reading / titillation – i.e. how much can you really trust them? Have to say that I am disappointed with Aidan McKay (who used to work for me when he was in New Orleans) for being such a prat.
To Mr. Ikari: The verdict against Shell is clearly not what you would have liked to have seen, but it is significant none-the-less. It tells those who would bring such suits in the future how they need to approach the legal problem and the manner in which they need to press their claims in court. The burden of proof was on the plaintiffs, and if they did not present a convincing case then the court was right in rejecting their claims. Personally, I think this verdict poses a serious potential problem for Shell in the future. The door for future suits has been opened, and those suits, if properly prepared and presented, could represent a serious financial liability for Shell.
The interest of most Western courts, which includes The Netherlands and governments is to protect capitalism and Africa’s exploitation and oppression. Why then should I nor anyone who understand corporate influence in government and courts be surprised at the decision of the Netherlands or Hague’s court? How can a court agree the people are responsible for their own pollution, knowing that $hell accepting about 40% spill means 89 to 99%? What we know is that these courts and governments pay lip-service to the protection of international human rights and especially when their companies are in violation of the rights of Africans. Meanwhile, the Hague’s court allowing fines against Nigeria’s $hell subsidiary is only a means to diffusing public outcry or criticism. If not what’s the difference between a tenant working for a landlord and collecting rents, other profits to him and a landlord benefiting from these actions based on his policies? $hell Nigeria is nothing but a name…key decisions are made by the home office in the Hague and Britain, likewise the profit shipped to these headquarters. Unfortunately, Niger delta of Nigeria like other Africans shall remain the victim of global greed, exploitation and all that come with capitalism and ingrained racism. Its citizens are part of the problems, because they have refused to unite and stop the flow of oil once and for all. Betraying themselves for messes of pottage from governments and $hell, etc. doesn’t help the charade. Imagine the Movement for the Emancipation of Niger delta (MEND) and how close it’s to stop the oil flow madness in Nigeria, but now President Goodluck Jonathan was allegedly used to penetrate them. With government/$hell’s peanuts and threats by US and British government to help Nigeria crush them so that oil will continue to flow, they stop the just agitation and reclaiming of what’s rightly theirs. Greed, lack of vision and intellectual dimension, disunity have thwarted that bold and holistic effort at freedom. Many of them have now been killed by Nigerian government, some in jail and others awaiting sentencing. Why then will the Netherlands’ court controlled by $hell and its baby govt not hand down such ruling, knowing that Nigeria is in their hands and the victims are feeble? What a pity!
Good to see that the court in The Hague showed some common sense for all but one of the cases bought against SPDC in Nigeria. Even the one that they were charged for was somewhat weak in that “breach of care of duty” to stop saboteurs opening up a wellhead and subsequently they, the saboteurs, polluting the surrounds, must be open up for debate. I suppose Greenpeace, Friends of the Earth, the Ogonis and other Delta tribes will have to look for other courts around the world to try and attack Shell. The problem remains in Nigeria with pollution primarily being caused by saboteurs and corruption endemic throughout the system. The Delta tribes do not seem to be able to accept this fact and merely continue to drag Shell, and others, through the courts in order to fill their own fat bank accounts via court fines. It would be very interesting to see the world-wide bank accounts of these tribal leaders. No doubt Ben “if thats your real name” Ikari will comment on this.
Yes, “Relieved” / “Texvette” I do have a major problem with the arrogance of many American bully-boys who have become the modern day (economic) colonialists. If you would have read my posting properly you would see that I used the past tense about the SEC rules, which were subsequently upgraded for modern technological advances in 2009. Another case of it taking Americans several years to realise and accept they made a mistake. I had to use the past tense about the (outdated) SEC rules as I was referring to the historical article on Shell’s reserves reporting from the Donovans, that had once again been regurgitated.
LondonLad: It amazes my how you insert your “Ant1-American” sentiments in almost all your posts. Regardless if the SEC’s reserves reporting guidelines are good or bad, they are the rules for any company wanting to be listed on a US stock exchange. If the company desires to be listed, they need to follow the rules as written. The SEC rules are designed to protect all investors from all countries. The responsibility for developing the reserves estimates belong the business unit and they are held accountable. The Financial function – on top of the reserves audit group, provides an additional measure of due diligence only. The financial function does not develop the numbers; they attempt to provide assurance that the rules, guidelines and procedures are followed.
LondonLad: You seem to have a burr up your backside when it comes to Americans. That is too bad, because like it or not you are stuck with us. Cheers, pal.
I am sure that (most) of what you have printed regarding Simon Henry’s “contribution”, to your tabloid article on the HISTORICAL (i.e. almost 10 years old story!!) reserves problems of Shell, may be correct. However, as we all know the reserves reporting (aka requirements of the SEC) was grossly outdated for modern day technological advances. Yet again it was the case that the Americans wanted to “rule the world” with their outdated methodology of reserves reporting and impose it on the rest of the world. Nevertheless, I do agree that Shell “minions” were under pressure to report reserves to help scorecards/end-of-year reviews. My PRESENT issue with reserves reporting is that it is the Financial Manager (at operating company level) that signs off the reserves reporting sheet – why? Surely this should be the Exploration Manager and Petroleum Engineering Manager that should do this? The knowledge of a Financial Manager (i.e. accountant) and several levels upwards, Simon Henry, cannot challenge or understand what the reserves numbers mean or the back-up data behind them! The buck should have stopped at the likes of Mathius Bixel then head of global exploration (and his PE counterpart in The Hague). Bottom line is that Shell AND every other company that is tied to these outdated American reserves reporting methodologies should have the scientists and NOT the accountants sign off the numbers.
Mr. Donovan, £3.2b? This is a lot of money. Wonder whether this has been provided as post balance sheet contingent adjustment. Hopefully it does not impact on share price.
Saw your article on Shell’s blacklisting of people they don’t like. This has been going on in the States for decades.
John, Of course RD Shell is behind those cyber attacks. Nobody else has the motivation and the resources necessary. Any protestations by RD Shell management to the contrary are so much ‘piss in the wind’.
Someone should get OSHA in here at Port Arthur and review our plans for start-up on this crude unit. Management just keeps hacking away at the last problem pipe and trying to get back to start-up versus spending the right amount of time proving that the unit can startup safely. How long is our company going to continue to try and start up this problem before we dop back and systematically fix the problem? Motiva’s leadership at this plant is weak.
In all honesty can the Donovan’s kindly list some of the past and present senior executives of Royal Dutch Shell that they would support for their good work, honesty, ability to abide by country HSE requirements, etc. etc. More and more it seems that if you work for RDS at a (very) senior level they’ll get shafted via real AND tabloid reporting on this website, Greenpeace (dick-heads), and other tree hugging websites. We (the countries around the world) need to advance, risks need to be taken as a result ………… JOHN DONOVAN REPLY TO LONDONLAD:
Supply a list of past and present praiseworthy senior Shell executives? That is an ask too far. I can think of one example. Sir John Jennings. We had dealings with him on a face to face basis when he was Chairman of Shell Transport & Trading and a Group Managing Director of Royal Dutch Shell Group. He demonstrated his integrity and his support for Shell’s Statement of General Business Principles in an unprecedented way. If he had not retired, this website would almost certainly not be in existence. Moody-Stuart took over and hid behind Shell’s army of lawyers, supporting a thoroughly dishonest Shell executive who, in addition to repeatedly stealing intellectual property, not only from us, rigged a contract tender in a conspiracy involving a number of high level people at Shell, of whom one at least, Tim Hannigan, is still a Shell executive. Next came Sir Philip Watts who inherited the hydrocarbon value creation teams set up under Moody-Stuart and fraudulently conjured up some much needed proven reserves. After he was forced to resign, Jeroen van der Veer was given the top job and was soon engulfed in the TOUCH FUCK ALL scandal and cover-up, and then the Sakhalin 2 debacle when he surrendered Shell’s majority stake to Putin in the most humiliating circumstances. Now we have his equally scandal tainted successor, Peter Voser, Chairman of the UBS Audit Committee at the time when UBS was engaged in all kinds of criminal activity.
As for taking risks, we may have already caused irreversible calamitous damage to the environment and the future of humanity by flouting the dire warnings about climate change.
It would help if we could at least have confidence in the integrity and competence of senior management of multinational giants such as Shell who want to run risks for commercial gain. Unfortunately we know that the overriding driving motivation behind most fat cat business moguls appears to be pure personal greed. And they end up with millions even when the risk-taking ends in disaster. Sir Philip Watts walked off with a reported severance/pension package worth $18.5 million after defrauding Shell shareholders and bringing to an end the 100 year old partnership between Royal Dutch Petroleum and Shell Transport & Trading.
Mr Donovan, it’s very insightful testimony of Simon Henry of both Phil and Walter, both his bosses. The fault seems to be always with his bosses not him. Wonder what he has to say about Mr. Voser?
Shell is taking a pounding about the judgement exercised by senior management over Shell’s Alaskan adventure – from the decision to tow the Kulluk through a winter cyclone to avoid millions in property taxes, to their decision to rehabilitate a small fleet of rust buckets in order to save (maybe)significant amounts of money in drilling costs, etc., etc., etc. We won’t mention Shell management’s decision to assume HUGE the financial risks associated with any type of major environmental ‘event’. Are we surprised ? Nobody should be surprised. The management team of this company (presumably Shell USA) also made a decision not to many years ago to engage in what appears to be espionage, targeting technologies classified by the US Dept.of Defense. What ‘responsible’ senior Shell management idiot decided to assume the risks associated with that type of activity?? I think it is time Shell’s institutional shareholders insisted on a major housecleaning in the upper levels of Shell management before this gang’s luck runs out.
Outsider and Dutchdude – yes, a tsunami was to blame, one of incompetence, inexperience,insouciance and insincerity (with respect to the tax question). These four elements are a lethal brew to be avoided when embarking on a risk assessment.
Is BP North Sea preparing for a cull.
BP’s Regional President for the North Sea Mr Trevor Garlick in a recent communication to staff confirmed the BP North Sea region had not achieved 2012 production targets stating that the production short fall was circa 35mboed of lost production.
The note also confirmed the BP operation is continuing to see increasing costs. The communication goes on to confirm the major 2013 focus for the BP North Sea business will be actively managing its cost base in line with its now much smaller North Sea portfolio following the recent divestment of the Harding fields and Southern North Sea fields and facilities.
Does this statement indicate a reduction of the bulging headcount in the North Sea HQ is finally to start.
DutchDude: agree 100% – no amount of paperwork can prevent accidents (or Tsunamis). But a critical review of potential hazards by an external party (not subject to management pressure) can often identify risks and hazards before they lead to accidents. Are you suggesting that a tsunami was responsible for the Kulluk ending up on the rocks?
LL and Outsider, you both make a very common mistake, seen all over the EP industry. The unwarrented believe in paper (i.e Safety cases and bowties). Nice docs, nice exercises, but they almost always skip the core of the matter. Which is understanding your risks. I do not subscribe to the phase “act of God”. Which is also very popular with insurance companies. If Shell really wanted they could do in depth and accurate risk assessments, and only than can the decision be made how to act on thse risks. Having a bowtie or safety case is not going to stop or reduce the risk of or the consequences of a Tsunami (or senior management short sightedness for that matter).
LondonLad: I’m sure Shell performed all kinds of QRA’s and prepared Safety Cases for Alaska for internal use. But outside the US these documents are then critically reviewed by the authorities, who must agree to them before operations can start.
“Outsider” I very much doubt that Shell (even the US arm of RDS) did not perform several “Safety Cases” (with it’s “Bow-Ties” and all) regarding the whole Alaskan operation, including chopper operations, rig-tow etc. etc. Most governments now have this, or an equivalent, as a requirement to operate in their territory. That said they sure missed something viz the rig tow. However, some acts of god (e.g. tsunami’s) are somewhat hard to predict and at least in this case nobody was killed and the environment remains intact, despite hysteria whipped up by some who have an agenda against the likes of Shell and the oil industry in general. Unless you have definitive proof that Shell only applied their GoM knowledge to the Alaskan operation I think your comment is very wide of the mark as RDS input will certainly have been applied to this project not just limited Shell Oil knowledge/experience.
Not only has Royal Dutch Shell embarrassed itself with it misadventures in the Arctic, the US Dept. of the Interior has also embarrassed itself for failure to provide competent oversight of Shell’s operations. Shell and the USD both appear to be run by the less than competent, leading to a ‘blind leading the blind’ situation. Thankfully, the only real damage has been to reputations.
For Londonlad: This Neanderthal is glad you are back on line. I do enjoy our exchanges. Happy New Year to you and your family.
From the information on this site, the need for a “Safety Case” approach for Shell’s Alaskan operations seems to be overwhelming. Helicopters that couldn’t fly in ice and fog, two vessels aground, and the failure of the containment dome are all examples of how the prescriptive approach used in the US does not work when circumstances change. Shell has experience of operations all over the world, but apparently applied only their knowledge of operations in the Gulf of Mexico to their Alaskan fiasco.
P.S. Happy New Year to you and your father. REPLY BY JOHN: Glad you are in a better mood than before the Christmas/New Year period. With regards to those concerned about the series of mishaps to which you refer, you can add many major newspapers including the FT, the NYT, The Washington Post, The Sunday Telegraph etc and now the U.S. Government. They are rightly bothered. Best wishes to you for 2013.
Good job the tanker “Overseas Reymar” wasn’t owned by Shell otherwise this website, “Relieved”, and every other Neanderthal who doesn’t want to progress with living in the 21st century, and all that this entails with the risks involved, would be up in arms. I reckon the rig that ran aground in Alaska (and has been released without any panic – apart from contributors to this noble website + a few left wingers with an agenda) should have been left there, as was, so that the fishes could have colonized the structure and helped mother nature propagate their species. Not “colonized” as we Brits did in the 19th century Ben “is that your real name” Ikari!!
Lady Godiva: It is very hard to understand how Marvin Odum has kept his job in light of safety performance and the what has happened in Alaska. Oh, nevermind, I understand – Shell does not hold any of its’ leaders accountable.
How on earth has Pete Slaiby kept his job, let alone Marvin? Who is responsible or accountable?
Shell got lucky, this time, with a canceled tsunami warning. Imagine a 100 ft. wave parking Shell’s rig high up on that volcanic shore line. They would have had to haul the wreck off piece by tiny piece.
If incompetence was incontinence, this so-called leadership team of Shell Americas would have floated clean away.
I wonder if RDS drilling call for requesting assistance from the US Army and/or US Navy in the event of a major incident. And Who is going to pay for all of this Federal assistance ??? I presume the Army is going to send Shell a big bill for renting their helicopters. Surely, RD Shell does not expect the US taxpayer to foot the bill for their incompetence. Or do they ??
We concur with DutchDude and Relieved. There are still lots of NATO ( No Action Talk Only ) in top layers in Shell. Recommendation to place Asia leaders in top position fall into deaf ears. No wonder, more have left in the Transition 09 and more will be leaving in the Strategy alignment. It is based on who can talk and who you know. EM
Dutchdude is spot-on with his comments.
Sad to see the mishap in Alaska. Many reasons why, but in my mind the foremost one is the relentless cutting of competent technical staff in favour of politicians. Transition 09 has done so much damage to this company, and has only propelled the quick talkers to the top. These managers are afraid of technical knowledge, and believe they are super anyway!
Shell should go back to being technical first, and demonstrate a job can be done safely without all the pre PR. Voser and Henry have done tremendous damage to this company with their short term, quick gain plans.
Mr Voser , $4billion+ Arctic lesson learned is a lot of money. Which Superbucket EVP is accountable ? Comment by John: The Arctic gamble seems to have already cost over $7 billion!!! According to a Washington Post article, “Royal Dutch Shell PLC in 2008 spent $2.1 billion on Chukchi Sea leases and estimates it has spent a total of nearly $5 billion on drilling efforts there and in the Beaufort.”
John and I are most grateful for the support and encouragement received from our Shell insider sources and contributors. Thanks also to our numerous visitors, the vast majority of whom are regulars here. Our best wishes to you all for 2013.
Shell never misses an opportunity to tell the world that they have spent $4 billion on the Arctic, but if a small fraction of this amount had been spent on fit for purpose drilling units, rather than using mothballed vessels otherwise destined for the breaker’s yard, we would not have seen the Discoverer beached a few months ago, nor the Kulluk on the rocks today being pounded by heavy seas. As a shareholder, I would expect some clarity as to how $4 billion was spent on the project before a well had even been drilled – the money was evidently not spent where it was needed.
I don’t think Royal Dutch Shell has the sort of trouble with it Norwegian operations it has with its Alaskan operations. I would suggest that Shell USA’s personnel are not up to the job of operating in the Arctic. The Gulf of Mexico perhaps, but the Arctic – no. RDS needs to transplant some managerial and technical competence to supervise the less than competent US staff.
Happy New Year to you and your Royaldutchshellplc.com clan. Your blog is truly a much needed public service. My Regards to your team.
interesting article on Voser and UBS. you may wish to cover his time with ABB as well, a period during which ABB was deeply involved in bribery and corrupt practices (google ABB + corruption).
Dearest John and Alfred Donovan, lion-hearts’ son and father. As the year ends, I say, congrats; you’re the best, so stay the best…no one does this like you do! Confronting monsters such as $hell with the truth, especially their own hidden truth/document isn’t easy. Meanwhile, the trickery and hidings, gaming of cats and dogs we find of $hell in the Arctic and other fronts points to the terrible pains Ogonis and others of Niger delta suffered/still suffering in Nigeria, where $hell operate under no binding laws or rule. Where any law or rule exist $hell bribes all those saddled with implementation, maneuvers state power to shut everyone,especially the victims off. Finally, Ogoni and Niger delta need help from the world to breathe fresher air as $hell-Nigerian government toxicity is suffocating the people with speed. Ogoni is poisoned (as UNEP report shows) that $hell and Nigerian government may live and reel in petrodollars. Sadly the international community looks on the same way it did when Ken Saro-Wiwa and others were about to be hanged unjustly in 1995. Why? We live in a world that is oil-drunk, thus prefers oil to live. This attitude must change so we can be more humanistic and proactive to also save the global environment. Happy 2013 to you, family and readers of this wonderful blog!
Hello John, I wish you and your father all the best for 2013 and will continue to read your website with great interest. Keep up the good work!
Well, well. We now know how prepared Royal Dutch Shell is to handle the unforeseen. And when it comes to preventing drilling ‘accidents’ it is the ‘unforeseen’ that bites you in the arse every time. And to make matters worse the ‘unforeseen’ usually comes in the form of bumbling, poorly or untrained personnel that are not properly supervised. It is RDS’s responsibility to see to it that not only are its personnel properly trained, equipped, and competent but that the personnel of their contractors are likewise properly trained, equipped and competent to do the job they were hired to do. This latest installment in Shell’s Arctic soap opera makes one wonder how prepared RD Shell is to handle any kind of ‘incident’ associated with their drilling operations.
There is an old saying that goes something like: “The flag and the Bible are common last refuges for scoundrels”. Sir Phillip has demonstrated that there is great wisdom in this old saying.
John: Very interesting set of articles you have posted in recent days. Let the band play on.
Mr Donovan, what is the address of the BG incubator as there will be more strays after Shell strategic super bucket realignment exercise
LondonLad, I am one of those retired Shell people and I do not feel offended at all by Donovan. On the contrary. On many occasions he has stated that the vast majority of Shell workers are fine. He merely is holding the top of Shell accountable for not living up to the standards they themselves have signed off to and pretend to impose on the staff. It is very much a ‘don’t do as I do but do as I tell you to do’. That is not sustainable, Shell staff is far to clever to not understand this. And since staff is unable to remove bad management, they will copy the standards as lived by management. And the result is clear. A bad top in a company will quickly transform that company to a lower standard. And putting in a good top will then take many years to get things right again.
Does everyone / anyone who has been working for Shell in ANY sort of capacity get corralled into the same “box” that seems to have appeared here on this website as a “Nazi”, a “Touch F*** All” wimp, an “incompetent reserves specialist” etc. etc. How about the Donovan’s who were in cahoots with Shell selling “their” product some years back, and which kicked off this humorous site? Role on March 5th!! JOHN DONOVAN REPLY TO LONDON LAD. Very disappointed by your comment. The only person who has implied any such nasty connection is you under the cloak of an alias. What I say is in my name and supported by evidence. Thus anyone can take legal action if they believe they have legitimate grounds to do so. None of the articles in question have anything to do with the Nazis. I have already supplied Shell internal documents proving Chris Finlayson was notified about reserves issues two years before shareholders were informed. I will also supply evidence in relation to his association with the TOUCH FUCK ALL scandal and the debacle on the Sakhalin II project. Your allegations of us being in “cahoots with Shell” are of course also made while you hide behind an alias. We acted at all times with absolute integrity. Unfortunately cannot say the same for Shell. Hence the six high court actions settled by Shell. You may find the site amusing; don’t think Shell shares that view.
John: Your are once again rattling the old stinking skeletons in RD Shell’s closet. It does make for interesting reading.
John: Saw the article about RDS’s abuse of independent station owners. This is so classic of Shell. The company will break its contracts whenever it feels it can get away with it if there is money to made doing so. What ever happened to their much lauded ‘business principles’. It is all BS, of course. You are a fool to do business with Royal Dutch Shell. They are shameless thugs, frauds, and cheats.
Obviously billions, not millions…!
Whilst Shell may have had dodgy tax practices in the decades before any of its current staff were either born or out of daipers….2011 accounts seems to show that they paid 24 Million on an income of 55 Million, which isn’t bad going, and hardly worse than Stabucks et al
Ah, having a ‘history’ is a dangerous thing. It can rear up its ugly head and bite you in the arse when least convenient.
To LondonLad: I tire of your nonsense. Best Regards.
Well “Relieved” your last posting really does exemplify why Yanks are some of the most despised people on this planet. Just see any international news channel or newspapers to see this is a fact with the demonstrations that abound. Arrogance and lack of historical and geographical knowledge remains a problem with the U.S. – also highlighted in the run up to your presidential elections. Take your so called Baseball “World Series” – world indeed !!! Your facts are as reliable as a Mickey Mouse watch or those of Greenpeace. My historical knowledge is not selective it’s just that the Brits have a history, unlike those across the pond. Additionally it was you and not I that raised the subject about America entering both WW’s (late I have to add) etc. etc. I am glad that RDS gobbled up Shell Oil, just a pity that so many of their staff came over with their / your type of arrogance. Can’t wait for you repetitive response, unfortunately I will now be away for 3 weeks and no doubt “Ikari” will fill up the blog long before I return so that I miss your reply.
To LondonLad: As long as you brought up the subject let me remind you that we Americans got into those two world wars ‘late’ because you Brits made such a cock-up of the operation you were in serious danger of being thoroughly whipped. You fools started those wars, we had to finish them for you. Fortunately, WWII finally bankrupted your morally bankrupt empire. And if we Yanks had not been around to cover your stiff British butts you would have been calling one another ‘Comrade’ long ago. I won’t discuss Vietnam with you because I served in the US Army during that war and you don’t have a clue as to what you are talking about. Fortunately, we Americans had the good sense not to help the Dutch try to regain their lost oil rich colonies in Indonesia (the Dutch East Indies). And as for RD Shell, if it hadn’t been for the rich dividends Shell USA paid out on the stock RDS held in Shell USA during the 1950′s and 1960′s you folks wouldn’t have been able to rebuild RDS, Nigeria not withstanding. I find your view of history to be somewhat selective, as it is with a good many older Brits. The sun set on the British Empire and its outdated notions of class, privilege and race a long time ago, and thank god it did. Have a good day.
My prime gripe “Relieved” is with Nigerians who pontificate about their present situation and in doing so blame all and anybody for their own begotten ills. This includes the British and international oil companies like Shell. Stupid comments from yourself regarding various wars add up to naught. Yanks being LATE on the scene in both World Wars does not really help in this discussion, neither does your failed attempt in Vietnam. Still you want to go that route. Thank goodness we beat the All Blacks – something you girls could not do!!
To LondonLad: Some of you ignorant retrograde ‘Redcoats’ never have gotten over having your sorry butts kicked by a bunch of uncultured colonists. Get a life laddy, that war was over a very, very long time ago. In fact, that war became pretty much a world war with the French and Spanish involved as well. And you Brits lost it, and with it the entire North America continent. I Say, good show, old Chap. What? And don’t forget we Americans bailed your sorry Imperial colonizing butts out of two very ill considered world wars in the last century, not to mention the Falklands conflict. Your most glorious moment in those four wars was the evacuation at Dunkirk. Hail Britannia. Cheers, pal.
Well Ben “if-that’s-your-real-name” Ikari, it would seem that you and “Yankie-doodle-dandy” Relieved have solved the world’s problems!! I for one am proud to be British and proud to have worked for Shell for 30+ years. The American’s are the modern day colonialists for whom corrupt Nigerians would appear to have found an affinity. Wonder why?!?! Nigerians have destroyed Nigeria, NOT shell, NOT the British. Shell has spent so much money on trying to help communities (at times I wonder why) and all they can do (like you Ikari) is attempt to bite the hand that feeds you. God help Nigeria if it was left to the Nigerians to run the country. I await your one thousand word response.
To Mr. Ikari: It has been my pleasure.
Dearest Brother “Relieved,” my pleasure. Meanwhile, facts or evidence, argument without counter-argument (like knowledge without test and expansion based on proven evidence and persuasion wrapped in honesty and the truth)is no argument. I have enjoyed and shall always enjoy every minute spared for the truth to be tested and known. Thanks so very much!
A Brit; what is this thing with hiding your names,or is this your real name? Well, true that when the British left there might have been organized infrastructures. It’s also true that, the infrastructures in place today despite the craziness of African/Nigerian leadership have surpassed what the British might have left. Again, why did the British went there to terrorize our people and territories in the first place? Please tell us why. If you couldn’t then the answer is the legacy that has become commonplace today-force, power exhibition,fraudulent acts other illegalities, exploitation and usurpation of resources of others for the betterment of the powerful(the British first and now so-called leaders of Nigeria/Africa) to the detriment of the weak and disadvantaged poor. Why has the British government/companies continued to manipulate and sometimes impose rulership there; do you forget $hell,a British blood-sucking company? Finally, if we take all the blames of African problems from Britain and overall Western exploitation,imposition and maneuvers, we must not be honest to ourselves. Why? Because legacies stays, even though positive things may emerge thereof. It’s like a child’s upbringing. Though the child may evolve and find him or herself when grown, the experiences or lessons from childhood aren’t lost. They, for the most part form important aspects of adulthood, therefore the issues we speak to.
To Mr. Ikari: It has been an interesting dialog. My best to you.
Thats right Ikari, blame the British for your current problems. classic deflection mentality. When the British left Nigeria it was prosperous and had a well maintained infrastructure. Pity that can’t be said right now.
Dear “Relieved,” you have spoken very well. I agree with you and I am glad you have seen the effects of colonialism first-hand in Africa. Also glad to note you said you are American. There is no difference between both countries: they are like father like son! Meanwhile, the future of Africans/Nigerians is in the hands of the peoples like you said. If we be honest, we will also agree that the British colonial lumping of different groups, which have distinct territories and have no cultural similarities, thus speaks different languages (we know that language binds than not) as represented in Nigeria and other African states play important role in the lingering African problem. Therefore, the continent’s problems and backwardness can not be completely divorced from British colonialism as the intended colonial gains have continued to trickle down to the masters. The British legacy of violent, forceful and illegal intrusion and fraudulent manner of land and property confiscation has been imprinted on ethnic groups and politicians/leaders who wield power in Africa,Nigeria in particular. Yet we demand that The Africans must move forward, learn from the past to avoid colonial mentality and the implications of oppressive, violent and corrupt acts introduced by colonialism. We can attest how difficult it seems to move away from such acts, because telling people who have been drunk and become intoxicated eating where they do not sow like colonialism to stop. Stopping is, however possible with collective grassroots enlightenment and action by the people. Help is also needed from the international community, if foreign governments and groups can for once put aside the benefit they get from the African nuisance or lunatic leadership, which some help to impose.
To Mr. Ikari: FYI I am NOT British. I am American. But I have worked with a good many Brits, Aussies, Kanooks, etc., over the years, and have picked up a few of their manners of expression. I do not take issue with what you have to say about colonialism. RDS has a terrible neo-colonial attitude amongst the staff. It is quite obvious to us Americans. And I have worked the West African oil fields, so I have seen the legacy of past colonialism. It is not a pretty picture. That being said, I will again say that the future of Nigeria and of Africa is in the hands of Nigerians and Africans. Nothing can be done about the past. You folks need to take command of your own countries and futures. Nobody can do that for you. In my opinion you folks are your own worst enemies.
Hello Relieved,are you British? That is, assuming your name is real. Well, it isn’t unfashionable to see people who have so much to answer for their destruction of others to select issues or points that touched on their nefarious acts. So I’m not shocked. Now, I’m not arguing that the British colonial ship according to you didn’t sail long ago. I’m also not completely blaming colonialism/Britain, etc. I have written pieces asking Africans, especially Nigerians to move on and stop allowing strangers such as $hell to come to their home and dictate how o run their family. We should also agree that colonial mentality or hands forcing what doesn’t belong to them still affects colonies such as ethnic nationalities that make up Nigeria, like slavery. Example, $hell (then BP) came as colonial British economic vehicle. It’s still in Nigeria terrorizing Ogoni and other Niger delta communities, and helping to deepen the corruption pits. Britain and America, others of the west still provide Nigerian leaders arms and advice to kill their own people for oil to flow unabated. Yet, Nigerian leaders (if real leaders exist) should by now know better to send such advice and arms, including $hell, the colonial tape-worm packing and making better the lives of their people. Hope you wouldn’t be surprised to learn that colonial mentality has eaten deep into Nigerian politicians/leaders therefore, their violent and corrupt attitude.
To Mr.Ikari: I sympathize with your allegations and contentions about British colonialism, etc., etc., ad nauseum. They are well based in fact. The history is not disputed. However, that ship sailed long ago. The simple truth is that the fate and future of Nigeria is in the hands of Nigerians these days. Unfortunately, you folks are buggering up very badly. You now have no one to blame but yourselves. It is not RD Shell’s fault, although they clearly contribute to the corruption within the country. You can always run the SOB’s out of town if you wish, it is your country. You folks need to take charge of your own country. Peacefully, if you can, by force of arms if you cannot. But it is time to stop the complaining and get on with it, already.
Good “Londonlad!” If you aren’t “deltastic,” who are you,since Londonlad isn’t your real name and if you aren’t wobbling and confused with different names? Let me be clear once more. I haven’t disputed and will not dispute the fact that Nigeria is corrupt. For me, Nigeria is the most corrupt nation on earth; it’s an illegal country founded via fraudulent means by British colonialists. This is, of course a fact. That is how about 350 diferrent ethnic nationalities were forced at gun point to form the union for the economic benefit of Britain which continue to date. I have indeed criticized and accused Nigerian leaders/politicians of hyper-corruption and went further to do an article that says European,American and other governments, their health facilities should stop allowing Nigerian politicians/leaders to their clinics so that they may develop the death-traps called hospitals at home. I can’t even count how many articles I have written on the ills of Nigeria. I went on to write that sovereign national conference is the true cure for the nation’s problems and also advocated its disintegration between now and 25 years years. You may have searched Ben Ikari and Ben Wuloo Ikari, respectively. If not just do yourself a favor to know my stand on issues affecting Nigeria and the world. More importantly, what I want you and other $hell’s surrogates to know, if you truly don’t is that, Ogoni isn’t Niger delta, though considered aspect of the latter because it’s an oil producing nationality. Also Ogoni struggle isn’t Ijaw or Niger Delta militants: Movement for the Emancipation of Niger delta (MEND)struggle. Ogoni struggle is only a microcosm or an expression of what other oil producing communities in Nigeria (Niger delta) are experiencing. Also, Ogonis are one group of people who have continued to demand openness,honesty, competence and accountability among other veritable traits from their leaders. We’ve refused to cover them up (even though we might not know everything happening)like others do. Ogonis understand that he who goes to equity must do so with an open hand. Lastly, Ogonis are known for their (our) nonviolent principles and we’ve used and will continue to use constitutional, civil cum legal means to seek redress from Nigeria and $hell, etc. If you have any case/evidence of Ogoni leaders extorting money from $hell and other companies please expose it since neither I nor some other Ogonis may not know everything happening.
Well Ikari, yet another waffled rant from you. It’s often said that to hide the truth say 1000 words rather than 10 – you have proved the point. Ogoni’s need to look at themselves AND their dishonest leaders, not just try and blame Shell for their own ills. Nigeria is corrupt – fact. P.S. I have no idea who deltastic is, seems yet another who can see through your waffle.
John: Read your article about Shell management not being concerned about the safety of floating LNG facilities. I think they should reconsider the consequences of some disgruntled Muslim type sending a few well aimed RPG’s their direction. Such a facility is a very inviting target for those wishing to ‘make a statement’.
“Deltastic,” because some of you $hell guys have chosen the fake names, your name makes me curious as to its originality or credible and legal status. Or you just change from “LondonLad” which is another fake name to Deltalic?
Well, you have to research and understand the Ogoni people and their (our) issues before writing publicly about or against them. I noticed you are ignorant of the Ogoni issues, therefore confusing the Ijaw militants or so-called Niger delta militants (MEND, etc.) and Iaw struggle with Ogoni. Ogoni has a record of its nonviolent struggle, thus we are known for using constitutional/civil means to seek redress or remedies. Other than Chevron that is another company, which had presence in Ogoni (less presence), $hell, your precursor has been that monster company Ogonis have issues of human rights and the environment with. There is no record of Ogonis or the elders, chiefs or politicians/leaders scheming money from $hell and other companies that could be found in Swiss bank as you claimed.
Ogonis have taken $hell to court and will continue to do so until justice is satisfactorily served. Legal resolution of issues or conflict is a constitutional or civil approach any civilized people,including the British people, Americans, Chinese, Australians and others will apply (and have been applying) if in our shoes. Ogonis going to court to seek human rights violations and environmental damages caused by $hell can not be tantamount to extortion or illegal means to reaping where we did not sow.$hell knows Ogonis are honest about the charges against her, but will stop at nothing to give us a fight as mostly corporations do in developing countries especially. You can attest that neither $hell nor BP fought the American government or people in the reserve scandal and Gulf of Mexico spills, respectively. They obeyed, accepted guilt and paid all penalties to avoid negative consequences.
Meanwhile, if you have evidence to show Ogonis extorting money from companies please show it to make your case or continue your lies like your master, $hell. Also note that before January 4, 1993 when Ogonis formerly took their case to the public or world, we asked $hell to pay accrued royalty and rent and that it also clean our environment and pay us for the deprivation of our sources of livelihood, which are fishing and farming its operations destroyed, $hell refused. It only asked for a shopping list that was sent and nothing has been heard from her to date.
Even when $hell settled the Wiwa et al out of court because it could not withstand the evidence against her and other backlash, Ogoni plaintiffs did not approach the company, rather the company approached plaintiffs’ attorneys and the case was settled one day or more after the first trial date $hell did not appear because it was seriously pushing for settlement. If $hell choose to lure and pay some Ogoni chiefs, leaders or politicians as a way of disrupting the Ogoni grassroots movement (MOSOP), thus dividing and ruling (can not conquer Ogoni), that is its own volition. Finally, in English language repetition comes with emphasis and depends especially on the kind of writing or issues. If at all there were repetitions in my response below they were for emphasis. More pertinently, all you need worry about is to write your own response based on what you know. That is with facts or evidence to make the truth known, and not worry about the length of my response because you have no control over my thought nor right to freedom of speech and expression. You would agree with me if honest that everyone’s post on Shellnews.net or other blogs are not same in length.
Common sense that is not too common dictates that, when one see a message or writeup he/she do not like, maybe due to length or content (or the byline), such could be ignored and deleted. I hope you have common sense; or you just lost it like the killer company $hell?
John: A year or so ago one of your contributors wrote an editorial suggesting that Royal Dutch Shell was at its core a racist company. I saw it on the web. I think we now have an answer.
John: Read your article about Shell Oil’s (USA) support of the apartheid regime in S. Africa during the 1980′s. This was during the tenures of CEO’s John Bookout and Frank Richardson. This story does not surprise me one bit. I do believe John Bookout was knighted by the Dutch Queen shortly after retiring from the Shell USA CEO position in 1988. It was also during this time period that Shell USA was fighting the USG over the cleanup costs of their Rocky Flats pesticide (their ‘drins facility) production facility. Shell tried to shift the costs to their insurance companies but lost on the grounds that the pollution of that site was done knowingly and deliberately. The 1980′s were not a proud period in the history of Shell USA. I know because I worked for Shell at that time.
John: Noted your stats on hits and views. They keep increasing. Congratulations.
Forgot to add – how much of the money screwed out of various companies by the Ogoni “elders/leaders” has actually been received at the coal face? Very,very little I would imagine. Most has no doubt been put in some fat Nigerian’s Swiss/UK bank account. All these guys do is to aggitate the youths to cause problems (aka the “area boys”) and then reap the rewards from the aftermath.
Ikari, you need to shorten your response!! Way too much waffle & repetition. Bottom line remains as others have already stated – Nigeria is rotten to the core and the Ogonis aren’t much different.
LondonLad? again with Ogoni in your mouth. Well,if you have an iota of the truth in you, you’d agree Ogonis have a solid record of championing a just and nonviolent struggle against the nigerian govt/$hell. Your anacondic precursor, $hell has a principle and teaching in Ogoni/Niger delta that says people can lie, destroy their very existence to be able to eat. This is because $hell has exploits and siphons the peoples’ resources in conspiracy with the nigerian govt, thus destroyed the peoples’ livelihoods by degrading the environment to making poverty and diseases endemic. This sad development permits weakness and gullibility. To say the least you’ve continued to be prevaricatious with frivolous or spurious assertions about my Ogoni people. I bet you will fail like $hell has continued to fail! When I asked you how many percentage of oil spill $hell has caused in 46 years (1958 to 2004) before the issues of oil theft, which $hell and the govt are reportedly involved and sabotage find their way into Nigeria’s lexicon you couldn’t reply to date. Saro-Wiwa’s work will stand the test of time to show how he stood up to the Nigerian govt I have numerously lambasted for its incompetence, corruption and deadliness among other ills. $hell, which designs most of nigeria’s oil industry legislation that favors not Ogonis and other oil bearing communities was also exposed by Saro-Wiwa due to the unholy alliances between the govt and her. Saro-Wiwa died because he refused $hell’s overtures and didn’t bow to its threats. Some Ogoni politicians and $hell lured/groomed leaders are susceptible to $hell’s bribery and corrupt practices and so could parley with your master. What do you expect in a country where $hell rules; a place where $hell’s-led corruption and violence for profit-making is an epidemic? Notwithstanding the corruption practices enshrined and instilled by $hell, Ogonis, which include myself have continued to demand openness, honesty, direct and competent communication, accountability from Ogoni politicians and leaders. The record is obvious. Therefore, stop lying against the Ogoni people,even though we aren’t perfect people,and no group or people have been nor will be perfect. $hell’s influence is corrupt and violent influence, but where there is a government as the current Obama government corporations such as $hell,BP are made to cough some of their blood money from Ogoni/Africa out, though they still use most Republican party lawmakers to seek legislation that may protect them from doing the right things.
Absolutely correct and well stated “old EP hand”, I have often stated such facts before on this website, particularly to those such as the Ogoni’s who cannot vent their anger & frustrations with their own dreadful government and therefore rely on attacking the likes of Shell. Another clear objective is to take Shell, and others, to court in order to make as much money from them by attempting to sue on often fictitious facts. Most notable is the pollution in the Delta region (which I admit is awful) that is now caused primarily by the locals who attempt oil theft and vandalism of the pipelines. Corruption, corruption, corruption is the cancer of Nigeria, but, as you say, Nigerians will blame anybody but themselves. Having spent time in Lagos over many years it is awful how a large majority of Nigerians are just out for the quick (now-now) fast buck and are totally unwilling to help their fellow Nigerian. I remember helping out at the “Friends of the Disabled” for a number of years and if it wasn’t for external help (e.g. Shell, the occasional foreign volunteer) these people would have been totally discarded by the state and local community.
John: I read the recent exchange between Nigeria Laddy and Old EP Hand with some interest. Having worked for Shell for years, and having worked the exploration plays of West Africa, I think that I have some knowledge about the problems in that terribly screwed up part of the world. The truth is that both of these parties are correct. Nigeria is in every sense a failed country. But Africa is in every sense a failed continent. However, the past is water under the bridge and nothing can be done about it. Life is not fair, if you have not yet noticed. Nigerians and Africans cannot go on forever blaming the white man for their failure to get their act together, take charge of their futures, and put together functional governments that serve the needs of the people. Nobody is going to do this for them. So, these people indeed need to quit ‘whining and whimpering’ and get on with the business of building a future for themselves. The time for excuses for is long over.
Nigerian Laddy, my brodder! How now, how de Madam? Eeh, my headengine, him go disappoint me big-oh how you be talking to your brodder. No peppersoup and goatstew wid de foo-foo for you today!
I cannot let your silly remark go like that. I have looked after many good Nigerians in my time. And I have looked (like many others) after the wellbeing of your country as much as possible. But you must admit that your country is about the most corrupt in the world and going down the drain rapidly. This is the root of all the problems. So, you go to your village and stop the extended family palaver and instead you go fix the big ogas in YOUR government. At all levels. And if it does not work via the democratic ballot box (which it won’t) you take up arms. Plenty arms around, just look at all the gangsters running Lagos. Area boys they call themselves.
No point looking at others to solve YOUR problems. Those problems are indeed very big. I wish you good luck. And don’t wait for my pension to be wasted on the Nigerian corruption. It could be the most beautiful and rich country in the world, but you people have chosen to screw it up and I can tell you, you have succeeded! And in good fashion you blame it on the white man, the Syrians, the Lebanese, the Ghanaians, slavery, other countries, churches, koran, bible, the Igbo, the Yoruba, the Haussa or whatever else and then you hold up your hand begging for a hand-out. It never appears to be you guys who are to be blamed yourself. I have no time for your whining. I read the book of Peter Enahoro ‘How to be a Nigerian’, I suggest you do the same. Enahoro was a decent man, who saw very clear what was wrong. And he had a great sense of humor!
So, Peter Voser think there is enough gas to largely replace petroleum and provide cheap fuel for at least 250 years. Hmmm…. At the rate climate warming is occurring we will need all that gas for air-conditioning.
John: Heavenly intervention ?? What does the Book of Revelations say about the form the Anti-Christ will take ?? Hmmm…Me thinks Sir Phillip is a wolf hiding in a sheepskin. Keep a close eye on your valuables.
Old EP Hand: It’s guys like you that screwed up Nigeria years ago – that is what my friends here tell me. Thank you very much. Don’t blame management of today – go look in the mirror. Perhaps giving back your pension would the decent thing to do instead of bad mouthing the current generation, incl. management.
To ‘Old EP Hand’: Amen, Brother. Shell is nowhere near the company it once was. And as a result I don’t think its future is anywhere as bright as senior management would like everyone to believe.
While you may not appreciate John’s ‘blasts from the past’ I find them interesting. They are an excellent source of information that allows one to compare current corporate conduct with past corporate conduct. As far as I can tell, not much has changed in the last ten years or so. At Royal Dutch Shell it is still ‘business as usual.
FYI – I too used to fly, although my license was limited to fixed wing aircraft. The notion that Shell would not specify that it contractors have aircraft equipped to fly in the adverse conditions routinely encountered is appalling. It clearly demonstrates a lack of regard for the welfare of not only contractor personnel, but also its own employees. As I said in a previous posting, conduct of the part of Shell management is not only grossly negligent, but close to being criminally negligent.
Inference remains from “Outsider” – no legal action taken by the authorities, nobody killed, more up-to-date conversation on this website. Job done. Off to watch Braga then to NY for some R&R – have a quiet week. XXX
Inference was made by “Outsider” – quote “Shell sent….” Would have been more honest to state that “the PHI operated choppers being used to transport Shell staff etc.” Again tabloid reporting. I am sure there is probably some 100 pages of requirements for flying in icy conditions let alone 10 pages. Point is that it would be great to have a clear statement from the authorities that PHI Inc. flew illegally – I do not think the newspaper article inferred this illegality. REPLY BY JOHN: As I said, you are trying to defend the indefensible. You seem to have about as much regard for the safety of Shell offshore employees as Shell does. Touch F*** All. Let other visitors be the judge.
Having now read that excellent article from that well known rag, the “Anchorage Daily News”, it would appear that the PHI Inc. operated choppers (NOT owned by Shell??) were working within the law. No mention is made of the legal requirement to have de-icing equipment in the area at that time of the year in those weather conditions. So I again believe that my comment about “Outsider” rumour mongering are correct. REPLY BY JOHN: No one said the helicopters were owned by Shell. They were however carrying Shell employees as passengers. “Outsider” is a pilot and has the expertise and experience to comment on such matters in an authoritative manner and in fact has kindly supplied me with a 10 page document by the Joint Aviation Authorities Europe entitled: “Operation of Helicopters Certified for Flight in Limited Icing Conditions.” “Outsider” has a personal interest having been on board a Shell helicopter in the North Sea when the crew lost control due to icing. Don’t you think that Shell has a responsibility for the safety of its employees when traveling on Shell’s business as helicopter passengers? Should Shell not have ensured that the helicopters were equipped with “critical deicing equipment.” With all due respect, I think that you are trying to defend the indefensible. “Outsider” has also made the following points: (1) Flight in icing conditions requires de-icing equipment, and additional certification of the aircraft/helicopter (2) Shell is responsible for specifying the level of de-icing equipment installed on the helicopters provided by a subcontractor (3) the fact that the helicopters contracted by Shell could not fly under the prevailing conditions suggests, yet again, that Shell’s planning was grossly inadequate (4) the absence of a “known band of positive temperature” in the Beaufort Sea precludes the use in icing conditions of helicopters certified for flight in “Limited Icing Conditions”
I wonder if “Outsider” can supply his source (newspaper article / date) of the rumour about Shell flying helicopters without de-icing equipment? Of course with all this hot air about the Arctic warming up etc. maybe the temperatures at the time of the helicopters flying were above that when de-icing equipment was legally required? OR, maybe this is just another piece of rumour-mongering by an individual who has a problem with Shell? Still, “Relieved” seems to believe in the tabloid rubbish. Talking of tabloids – I see that 40% of the articles published on this site are from 7 or 8 years ago!! REPLY BY JOHN: I can only guess that you did not read the linked Anchorage Daily News article. Here is the relevant extract: “All too often, fog socked in the helicopters Shell used to rotate workers on and off its vessels, stranding them for extra time at sea or onshore in Barrow and Prudhoe Bay. While the choppers, operated by PHI Inc., have instrument-flying capability, they weren’t equipped with critical deicing equipment that would allow them to soar into the clouds. And whenever fog rolled in — as it does roughly half the time in the summer — it was often impossible for the helicopters to stay below the clouds while still flying sufficiently above the water. The solution next year will be to put rotor heating on the equipment, allowing Shell to keep the helicopters flying on a more predictable schedule.” So no “rumour-mongering” but reported undisputed fact by a major title belong to Hearst Newspapers. As to the publication of archive material, it serves as an excellent reminder of Shell’s past exploits, including some that you have commented on and one occasion went as far as “welcoming“. Re-publication of past Royal Dutch Shell corporate sins hopefully makes it less likely that they will be repeated.
Read the comment about Shell’s Helo’s. Where the devil was the Coast Guard and FAA. Those things should not have been allowed to fly in Alaska. Helo’s don’t tolerate icing conditions very well. In fact, they don’t tolerate them at all. They simply drop from the sky if not properly equipped. Let’s hear it for Shell’s management team. They are operating on the edge of criminal negligence.
Shell sent helicopters to the Arctic that were not equipped with de-icing equipment? Presumably because de-icing equipment is not needed in the Gulf of Mexico? Maybe someone should have told them that the Arctic is a little colder. Aircraft icing is a problem anywhere the temperatures approach freezing, and helicopters are particularly vulnerable in icing conditions. Maybe Shell could have spoken to their colleagues in the North Sea?
To Outsider: Everything is OK now ???? I wouldn’t bet my life or my pension on it.
Interested observer: your comment seems to refer to the Sakhalin article, but this is from 2005. In the meantime Shell has been through several transformations, so everything is now ok
Does anyone but me get the idea that Royal Dutch Shell management has a VERY serious lack of project skills ??? If Shell doesn’t get control of the cost over-run issue on big projects they are going to get a big kick in the a** on profitability in the not too distant future. This problem in scandalous, and it calls for a serious house-cleaning amongst the ranks of senior management.
With regard to the article about plans to export vast amounts of US natural gas in the form of LNG. Don’t bet on it. That gas will be needed in the future here in the US.
Re the Motiva article, so true…..How prophetic that the picture of Voser and the senior execs are sitting there opening a valve at the ceremony…. and ultimately, a valve just like it allowed caustic to get into the unit. This project was terrible from the start…bad idea started by Tom Purves….. Bad project team, led by Tom’s buddy forrest Lauher, who had no idea how to run a project of this size, bad leadership throughout the project….. Tom decides to come save the project when in fact he has never worked on a major project and has no skills to actually deliver what he promised…. his cronies were dropped onto the project in various jobs…..Hartsock, Funkhouser, all with promises of making a difference…. meanwhile no one would speak up for fear of losing their job. The project finally falls on its face, only after Tom gets shipped out to Siberia. Everyone thought he would get paid a nice severance and retire but after this embarassment, the senior Shell execs couldn’t pay Tom a nice payday. Tom then had to move on to Canada where he is now head of mining….. laughable. And his buddy Funkhouser is working on the next mega project…laughable…. he will somehow work his way up to Canada to be with his daddy Tom…. I’m sure he will wait until it warms up…. and old Forrest is now off in El Paso working for a small refinery company after being run off from Shell….. This is Shell’s finest. Tom, you are a joke. I hope you enjoy your stroll to the bank. Everyone else will when you leave.
Seems like we can expect some good profit margins to be announced from Shell. Good news for us share holders eh!! Almost as good as Chelsea getting beat 3-2.
John, Your ‘blasts from the past’ are interesting. By way of comparison with todays news they show that not much has changed in the fundamental way RDS does business.
Exxon must be laughing at all the energy Shell is expending trying to perfect the company. Still it has been three years since the last one.
Engines and Super-buckets. Shell management and their consultants are not much for imagination. Me thinks the engine stalls and knocks a bit, and the buckets definitely leak.
Hmmmmm, LondonLad? Well, if you’d followed my thoughts or writings you’d agree I’m even more hard on the Nigerian government, politicians or cabal than $hell sometimes.
If a real government and not submerged in greed, corruption and especially incompetence of gross proportion. It will not allow $hell Oil, a foreign monster to overtake and dictate for her how it deals with its own people. $hell is most powerful in Nigeria than the federal government. And the government acknowledges this fact. $hell get the best of treatment and protection from Nigeria against its own population. The company takes advantage of ignorance and greed couple with the ethnic division and tension in the country.
Meanwhile, the corruption you pointed to and other ills are noted as common in the country.
But mountainous evidence also shows $hell is at the center of most corruption, bribery and violence. Lastly, your claim of locals involved in donkeys of years oil theft is vague. It’s only reminiscent of $hell’s attitude of scheming, spinning and tricking with a mischaracterization and misleading intention.
Can you honestly point to when your company, $hell started reporting oil theft or sabotage in Ogoni or Niger delta? This is, bearing in mind that these issues weren’t heard of during Ken Saro-Wiwa’s campaign that preceded the Ijaw-Niger delta militancy we saw emerged in 2004 due to $hell/government’s irresponsibility, greed and neglect.
Yep, Shell absolutely correct when it states that theft and sabotage BY LOCAL NIGERIANS is a prime cause of loss of production. This has been a problem for donkey’s years and will continue until NIGERIANS stop thieving and vandalizing private property/products. Additionally this is now the prime cause of pollution in the Delta region. Hey ho at the end of the day Nigerians deserve all they get – corrupt politicians, corrupt “chiefs”, corrupt State Governors, poor infrastructure, poor education etc etc. Such a shame when so much could have been made of the country by NIGERIANS. Of course they blame everybody but themselves for the shambles the country is in. Pity they don’t use their undoubted skills in working for the country rather than for the individual. At the end of the day I really wonder what will happen to all the money they no doubt will get (and have already got) from the US/Dutch courts from Shell. No doubt in some fat Nigerians bank account in Switzerland!!
$hell should stop lying and spinning because they will not stick.
It’s the same environmental pollution caused by $hell oil spills, unchecked 24 hours a day gas flares and other unprofessional practices Ken Saro-Wiwa exposed and he’s killed when he refused to withdraw his campaign at the request of $hell is that, which exist in Ogoni today. This high level and first of its kind pollution was confirmed by UNEP report and not the frivolous oil theft case the killer company makes of late. $hell’s claim about oil theft,thus calling on the Nigerian govt to help stop the act as reported herein, is a big ruse.
The company and the govt are the popular oil thieves. They stole Ogoni/Niger delta oil at gunpoint and with draconian laws made possible by $hell and other multinational/Euro-American corps since 1956/1958 to date.
$hell should honestly tell the world when oil theft started or when it first reported the incident. It claims between in the last 5 years less than 30% of oil spills were caused by its recklessness. Meanwhile, how many percent of such spills happened between 1956 and 2008 (last 5 years) or when militancy started for the company be blaming the locals for spills due to alleged theft? Also, is it not $hell’s greedy policies and the take-all syndrome of the company and govt (both in joint venture) that led to militancy; meaning poverty and hardship created by $hell while it rolled billions of the peasants money into its coffers?
There is no way $hell can truly and legally escape liability, but for its influence and connections. By the way reports have it that $hell staff, govt officials and politicians including officers of JTF $hell is praising are involved in organizing this theft since they no longer openly extract oil in Ogoni. In other parts of Niger delta their gang of govt-prone and corporate thieves have also engineered the elicit trade of stealing oil and then look for locals who are granted local implements to refine so as to have the premise of making such frivolous claims $hell makes. Finally, the same environmental pollution Ken Saro-Wiwa exposed and he’s killed by $hell and Nigeria exist in Ogoni today. These spills and gas flares took place between 1958 and when $hell began reporting oil theft recently,when Ijaw-Niger delta militants struck due to $hell and govt’s lackluster attitudes,greed and genocidal policies.
Ms Dilbert, It is half time for Voser. So he is putting on his thinking cap to change out some players who are not performing. Dont worry about the engines. It is all about people and delivery. We hope he got it right this time.
LondonLad: The ‘silly story’ about Jiffy Lube is not so silly. Many thousands of their customs have suffered serious damage to their auto’s because of the way these clowns do business. Humdreds of people have had their auto engines damaged beyond repair. Jiffy Lube is one of the worst ‘quick service’ outfits in business, and they should be put out of business as far many a State’s attorney is concerned.
Its been nearly 4 years since the last ‘transition’ I wonder if these superbuckets are just a way of preparing us for yet another org change
Why the “Fred the Red” picture associated with this silly story about Jiffy Lube? I think that if Mr. Donovan has invented this link between the two then that nice Sir Alex Ferguson, and many millions of MU supporters around the globe, will turn their backs on this website.
P.S. much better versions of Fred can be found :
This “green” surcharge that was applied is getting to be more and more commonplace and would even appear to be an excuse for raising taxes for various Governments around the world, particularly here in the UK In the UK many garages are adding similar charges for “disposing” of old engine oil, old tyres etc. Some of these practices are probably fair enough as long as the punter is told upfront about such charges and if they have a legal foundation.
Shell super bucket? If Voser runs Shell like a business, then he should quickly revert to the Country buckets in most developing countries. By doing that, he will remove at least 30% of super overheads and super frustration of poor accountability.
Superbuckets, growth pipelines, funnel strength, capability focus, optionality, powering progress together, CVP, commercial mindset, core engines. Looks like someone has been reading Dilbert, Peter! What on earth happened to ESSA?
To LondonLad: Hmmm. Got up on the wrong side of the bed, did we? Or did YOU forget to take your Exlax last night? At least you have a sense of humor, on occasion. Have a good day.
Say “Relieved”, have you ever worked in Nigeria? I guess not by the way you pontificate erroneously about the problems in the country!! Keep taking the exlax as at the moment something is going in the wrong direction in your body.
BBC America just did a nice piece on Royal Dutch Shell and Nigeria. It was well worth watching. Needless to say, Shell took a big hit on the way they conduct business in Nigeria.
One thing this ‘bucket list’ does is reiterate Shell’s intention to continue operations in Nigeria for many years to come. This policy is key to understanding why Shell is trying so hard to limit litigation under the Alien Tort Statute. A Shell loss before the US Supreme Court would require Shell to clean up the way they do business in Nigeria or face further litigation in the future. It is obvious that Shell wants to continue to do ‘business as usual’ in Nigeria. They have gotten away with plundering the country, rape, murder, etc., and made 10′s of billions of US$$$’s in the process. Why would Shell want to change a business model that has been and continues to be so profitable ???
Is this ‘bucket list’ a list of wishful desires before something or someone ‘kicks the bucket’, or is it just a very poor choice of metaphors by mentally challenged HR types?
Looks like this article / leaked email has stirred up a hornets nest!! For one of the few times (and do not let this go to you head Mr. Donovan) I welcome this publication. It would be interesting to know if other majors (e.g. Exxon) or FTSE 100 companies are weighed down by this HR nonsense. Anyone know?
Read your blog about Mr. Voser’s message. Now you know why I left that company long ago. At times management suffers from collective mental incapacitation, runs amock and turns the organization into a ship of fools.
With the concept of buckets, Shell is preparing for the ever shrinking volume of production (despite the preachings of the former beloved Bearded Brinded to the opposite). If they continue on this reorganisation for reorganisation sake, they need only a few buckets to move all oil they produce.
The fact that Voser was prepared to put his signature under all this drivel shows he has lost it. If he has lost his marbles, perhaps those can be passed around, I am sure he can find a consultant to design a learning event on the theme of passing marbles.
Or is Voser shrewder than most and is this the start of another major upheaval that will see more americans in the key and high paying jobs?
Let me point you to this youtube: in 1960 it was described already how it will go by Harry Belafonte: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yD-ffhvefsw&noredirect=1
“Superbucket” motivational message from Voser : Have to agree for the most part with the source of the leak that this once again highlights not only contractors attempting to show their worth, BUT, also Shell’s HR department trying to justify their vast numbers within the organization. It really is a continuing case of “Buzzword Bingo” – most of which remain from the time I was working for Shell. The main outcome will be that minions down the system will have most of these buzzwords engrained on their end-of-year scorecard and will therefore help the technical staff to take their eye off the ball for what should be their main driver – technical excellence. So, more meetings, brain storm sessions, camp fires etc. etc. and all for HR to pontificate the added value they (HR) have created!! It really is the case that 90%+ of these buzz words were being “discussed” ad nauseam 10 years ago – time to tell the Emperor that he has no clothes on.
I note that Peter Voser’s encouraging words make no mention of ethics, integrity, or competence.
Read your interesting piece of history about the power of protest. I also note that the Dutch courts recently reaffirmed that right in The Netherlands, despite the desires of Royal Dutch Shell.
I would note that Allseas is a Swiss based corporation. It is therefore no surprise that connections with the Nazis of a bygone era should crop up. The Swiss were heavily involved with Nazis. And truth is not slander. So, let the fact speak for themselves.
Great article in the Sunday Telegraph (by Christopher Booker) “The great Arctic ice scare melts away as Antarctic ice hits record highs”. Yet another piece of evidence that the likes of The Guardian, BBC and of course Greenpeace will attempt to refute. This time it’s satellite evidence from NASA that has shown : (1) a severe cyclone this August played a key role in the Arctic ice melt (i.e. not global warming), (2) the Arctic was far warmer in the 1930’s than today, (3) last week Antarctica’s sea ice area was only just short of the greatest extent ever recorded at either pole. Bottom line for Shell is that they had better get drilling before the next Ice Age appears.
To LondonLad: I do enjoy trading barbs with you, but all good things must end eventually. No I am not on Garden Leave, but I could use a good vacation. Unfortunately, I have too much work to do and not enough time to do it. So, it seems I must bid you a fond farewell. It has been interesting. Perhaps we shall do this again some time. Best of Health and Luck to you, even if you are a rabid RDS fan.
Do you have anything on your web site or can you send me to a place where I can get
information about extending the life of a well?
Seems like “Amused” has plenty of time to twaddle and block up Mr. Donovan’s blog – lost your job and on “Garden Leave” ? On a more serious note, I am glad that pump petrol prices in the UK are going to be investigated by the “powers-that-be”. Indeed they do not really appear to follow crude prices too well. Costs me a fortune to get up to Old Trafford now.
So Shell has decided to harass Greenpeace, and is all this lawsuit is about – harassment. While Dutch courts have jurisdiction in the Netherlands they have no jurisdiction in the US or US territorial waters. Shell needs to sue in the US. But the best way to handle this is the US is to obtain a temporary restraining order. IF RD Shell thinks they will intimidate Greenpeace leadership I think they are sadly mistaken. The PR angle on this is that Shell is opposed to freedom of speech and assembly. And given their stance with the US supreme court, is in favor of legally indemnifying corporations for criminal misconduct. Shell is making itself look like an organization run by thugs.
Read the article about Shell’s argument that corporations should have no liability for human rights violations. Is that so?? I thought this issue was dealt with at the end of WWII when I.G. Farben, and it management, was held liable for their participation in the wholesale extermination of Jews, Slave, and other forms of ‘sub-humans’. But then Shell ratted out its Jewish employees to the Waffen SS and they went to the slave-labor work camps and the ovens. I take Shell management doesn’t think there should be any criminal liability for that kind of behavior. Gee, what a great company to work for. Sieg Heil !!!!!
To Shell Veteran: Who I work for now is none of your business. However, you are clearly curious about my background so let me tell you something about myself. I did work for Shell for over a decade, and I did very well. I left Shell because of my dissatisfaction with the way the company was being managed, which in turn was leading the company into a financial crisis. I discussed my reasons for leaving with several GM’s and VP’s at Shell, because there were somewhat surprise at my decision to leave. To a man they wished me good fortune in my future endeavors and stated that if they were my age they would do that same thing. Within two years of my departure Shell USA did indeed have a serious financial crisis, resulting in annual operating losses and significant layoffs. None of this was necessary. A few years later Royal Dutch Shell went through its reserves scandal. I have absolutely no regrets about leaving Shell. I could never have accomplished, personally or professionally, what I have had I remained at Shell. I most certainly would never consider going to work for the company today. It was a far better company to work for when I left many years ago than it is today.
To Shell Veteran: I am doing very well, thank you. Long time Shell employees, and you appear to be no exception, are noted for their very limited perspective. I know and have known, many long time employees of Shell and your opinion is not universal shared. I would also say that the very high historical turnover rate amongst Shell employees, and I am now referring to professional staff, speaks volumes about the company.
I would like to repeat a warning I have mentioned before about postings on this blog. Websites allowing aliases to be used are especially vulnerable to manipulation. That includes Wikipedia and blogs, such as this one. It follows that I can only vouch for the bona fides of postings made in my name or by contributors such as Paddy Briggs, who choose not to use an alias. Some contributors using an alias have built up credibility over the years e.g. “Outsider” and “LondonLad/Musaint.”
REPLY TO USCitizen: There was 10 hours of filming at multiple locations in the UK and Russia involving several people, including my father. All edited down by the TV people to what you have seen. So far, there are two versions broadcast. A film crew from the USA have also spent several hours filming an interview with me. Still to be broadcast.
John – saw your interview – thanks for the entertainment. Did not even mention your dad?? Wow!!
Amused – who do you work for??
To the newcomer from Devon – sorry your time at Shell did not work out. It has worked out for many of us. Many friends who have worked here over 30 years and many people who came from elsewhere and appreciate Shell. To Amused – good luck to you – you need it.
John: Read the article about Shell’s containment vessel tests. One can only imagine what could possibly have happened if the Coast Guard was not involved in the certification process and that vessel had had to deal with a real problem. After 5 years you would think Shell could have done better than this.
Anyone know how to get the latest E&P organigram for senior Shell staff at Group level – surely this isn’t too much of a secret? REPLY BY JOHN: It is self-evidently not information entrusted to you. If you don’t think its too much of a secret, why not ask Shell? Though I wouldn’t bother doing so unless you use your real name.
For USCitizen: I used to work for Shell USA but now work for DEVON ENERGY. There is NO comparison. It would take a court order, a team of mules, and a gaggle of Sheriff’s deputies to drag me kicking and screaming back to Shell. Wake up Dude.
To US Citizen: You are quite correct, Ignorance is Bliss. That is clearly why you are so happy working for Royal Dutch Shell.
Amused – why do you make this so easy.? So you want to hold the folks who developed the global warming theories to the sames standard as you do Shell. Look up the data manipluation that London Lad referred to, quite ethical huh?? Geez, do your homework.
For USCitizen: There is an old saying that goes something like: ‘Ignorance is bliss.’ Cheers, pal.
For Amused – you would know huh?? LMAO. This is too easy. Come talk to some of our recent joiners who can Contrast Shell with others, they would never go back!
To “Amused” or perhaps that should be “Bemused” – global warming is indeed happening (although not today in the UK as it’s certainly a bit chilly), but, is not all down to the oil companies and those of us that burn/use fossil fuels – do you burn/use fossil fuels or perhaps you produce enough hot air yourself to keep warm!?. Historically global warming and global cooling have occurred – fact. Interesting to note that people have falsified the data to attempt to prove a point e.g. http://www.forbes.com/sites/peterferrara/2012/03/01/fakegate-the-obnoxious-fabrication-of-global-warming/
As I have stated many times previously, people like yourself and others that hug trees seem to want to put us back to the stone age and make us live in caves. The majority of us want to develop ourselves, travel, have some fun and to do this we require the use of fossil fuels and their by-products. This Corrib project is a good example of “green” idiots refusing to realize the vast benefits to the community & country if this project goes ahead. Now I hope that you breathe slowly when responding else you will burst your blood vessels. Breathe in one-two-three, breathe out one-two-three.
To LondonLad & USCitizen: I know you guys (rabid RD Shell fans both) probably don’t or refuse to believe the scientific data linking the burning of hydrocarbons to global warming. I have only one comment : Even little birds are smart enough to know that it is fatal to sh*t in your own nest. This fact seems to have escaped you two.(No, I most certainly did NOT infer that you guys are ‘bird brains’. No compliment was intended).
I just love the picture of 3 (yes THREE) people demonstrating outside “Corrio House” – just goes to show the amount of support these demonstrators have in Ireland over the Corrib project. Perhaps the sensible majority realize that developing a gas field close by to Ireland can bring jobs and wealth to a lot of people. Might even reduce the cost of gas to the consumer. REPLY BY JOHN: Hello LondonLad. Have added another photo, this time with 150 protestors according to RTE News Ireland. Anything to please you.
Prices in Europe are indeed much higher in the State because of government taxation. But here in the States it is much easier to manipulate markets because there is far less government control of them. Price gouging is not new here, and the BIG OIL companies are not at all bashfull about playing the trading game to their advantage.
To “Curious” : I also worked in the oil/gas sector (yes, “Amused” it is past tense!!) and the local market is indeed also a factor, BUT, this is driven by market traders, of the Stock Market variety primarily, and not by Shell or other oil companies. THE problem in pump prices remains the taxation rip off the customer has to pay to the tune of 60% of total cost in the UK.
P.S. Phew that was a close call at 24-21 ………….. worked it out yet!!
John: A short while ago you posted a series of articles about Shell’s deliberate theft of IP and an ongoing lawsuit between Shell USA and the owner of that IP. My guess is that in a Texas state court the owner of the IP would have no problem winning a case against Shell based on the expectation that Shell would abide by its publicly stated business principles. In the state of Texas your word is your ‘bond’, literally and legally. Texaco discovered this to their dismay in the 1980′s and it cost them something on the order of $6 billion (about $12 billion in todays $’s).
I read the letter from Mr. Wiseman with great interest. RD Shell and Shell USA might want to rethink their policy, particularly in the state of Texas. Texas is an unusual state in that for legal business purposed your ‘word’ is your ‘bond’ and is legally binding. Case in point, the legal dispute between Texaco and Pennzoil over Texaco buyout of Getty Oil way back in the 80′s. The CEO’s of Texaco and Pennzoil had agreed that Texaco would not interfer in the takeover/buyout of Getty Oil by Pennzoil. This was a ‘handshake’ agreement. Unfortunately for Texaco they decided to go after Getty, and eventually took over the company. Pennzoil sued for $6 billion for ‘breach of contract’ in Texas courts and won. Texaco had to fork over $6 billion in cash to Pennzoil. Joe Jamial was the attorney for Pennzoil. So, in the state of Texas Shell’s stated business principle can be taken as their ‘word’. i.e., a publically stated business contract, on how the company operates by any of their partners, suppliers, etc. Shell can be expected to follow those principles, otherwise they are engagin in deliberate fraud. Failure to follow thos stated principles could cost Shell very dearly. I don’t yet think anyone has yet challenged Shell on this concept, nor do I think it has been tested in Texas state courts, but the day is coming given the way Shell operates. And I expect that Shell could find itself on the wrong end of the legal stick. Fraud is fraud.
I worked in the Oil and Gas industry at one time. I know all about what you mentioned.
But you missed the point about local market manipulation. Try again.
To “Curious” : the ones who are (to use your words) “buggering the public” are the Governments at either end of the supply chain. Petrol costs in the UK comprise of more than 60% in taxation. (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-19489908) Sure Shell (AND other companies) make large profits from the sale of petrol/diesel and other petroleum products, but, the investments required for exploration and production requires eye-watering amounts of money. Drilling a dry exploration well offshore can amount to costs greater than $50m. At the end of the day these companies require these profits to : (1) keep shareholders happy and (2) discover & produce oil/gas to keep the consumer (such as yourself) happy and cosy in their little world. Big problem is the taxation rip-off.
Price gouging by RD Shell ?? What is their PR motto ?? ‘Let’s go.’ As in let’s go bugger the public ??
For LondonLad: Back in the 80′s Shell USA had an unwritten policy of providing lifetime employment for anyone who was or had been in management. As a result they had former managers running log libraries, etc. Those promoted to management but whom proved to be failures were usually exiled to Shell’s Information Center, i.e., it computerized services center. That worked for awhile, but only until computer services became important to the functioning of the company. At that point Information Services became a drag on corporate performance. Shell management had a nasty habit of blaming failures on its technical staff when most of the time it was management policy and decisions that were to blame. The end result was bad long term investment strategy and a host of failed projects. That in turn led to the poor financial performance of the last 80′s and 90′s and the downsizing.
To Amused : Larger organizations do not necessarily mean better productivity. Smaller is often better (faster moving, less bureaucracy, less layers etc.) and is not always the result of poor management, as you are trying to imply with Shell in the U.S. during the 1980’s. Shell unfortunately had way too many staff (1980’s and beyond) with local staff often far too reliant on the expat performing the work. Recent reduction in Shell’s expat numbers, in order to increase the numbers of local staff (and thereby appease Governments, unions and local stirrers) has not always been successful unfortunately. In a similar vein the incorporation of Shell Oil staff over the last 20 odd years into the RDS Group has also often been painful with too many Americans believing they were God’s gift to the company. Some were indeed excellent and great contributors but there were far too many who were not. Really was a case of “over paid and over here”.
Great to see that Shell is reducing its onshore Niger Delta holdings for what appears a good amount of money. Who will the harbingers of doom start to blame for all the Nigerian woes if/when Shell reduces onshore acreage and becomes less of an operator?
John picked up that info thank you watch this space for Shell Corrib Gas Project
Halting bombshell just around the corner not content with jailing local farmers now threatening small local vendors with imprisonment if they reveal
Police alcohol supply details top man in KPMG sent to deliver the threat
I now note that Shell USA has somewhere on the order of 10,000 plus employees. Back in the 1980′s it had over 20,000 employees. Poor management (particularly in the 1980′s) has taken its toll on the company and it has contracted considerably.
John in the uk who is ethics and compliance person within Shell. Reply by John: I have now been able to post the information you are seeking.
With reference to the article on the lawsuit requesting the release of safety data: Someone is wasting time and money with this lawsuit and is completely unfamiliar with the way the US government operates. So, don’t hold your breath and bet on the courts siding with the plaintiffs regards a failure to respond within the statutory time limit for the release of information under FOIA (freedom of information act) requests. The courts routinely side with governmental agencies in failing to release data within the supposed statutory time limit. The courts are very lenient with governmental agencies in this regard. It is not uncommon for agencies to take 2 or 3 years to respond to FOIA requests although the law states they have 30 days to do so. All an agency is really required to do within the statutory time limit is to notify the requestor that they are working on the request and will forward the requested information as soon as they have time and resources to process the request. This is the reality of life in the BIG CITY.
I would like to repeat a warning I have made before about postings on this blog. Websites allowing aliases to be used are especially vulnerable to manipulation. That includes Wikipedia and blogs, such as this one. It follows that I can only vouch for the bona fides of postings made in my name or by contributors such as Paddy Briggs, who choose not to use an alias. Some contributors using an alias have built up credibility over the years e.g. “Outsider”, “LondonLad/Musaint” and our biggest fan, “USCitizen.”
To LondonLad: Nobody is forcing you to visit this website. If you find it so offensive why don’t you just quit visiting it ?? Or is that not an option ??
For LondonLad: Not ‘conspirators’, my confused friend, but standins for Royal Dutch Shell’s propaganda organ.
For once, well done to the Obama administration for backing Shell against these environmentalists who merely want a fight because they see mileage in it and thus allow themselves to justify their own existence. There are far far too many examples of these idiots, and Nigerians, attempting to make money from US courts. Earth Rights group really need to look at themselves seriously and be honest as to how much time (and tax payers money) they are wasting with some of their nonsense. They complain about Shell (and no doubt other companies) trying to influence governments, but, what do they ALSO try and do!! Assume “Relieved” is still taking the exlax and that “Amused” is still attempting to connect all contributors to this website who attempt to defend / argue for Shell as conspirators. Finally, why are so many articles continuing to be from 7 or 8 years ago – so very repetitive and I fear show that there aren’t enough negative articles in the press to attempt to slag off Shell. REPLY BY JOHN: You are of course entitled to your opinion. I have already explained the circumstances behind the archive material being republished. It is in my view a good thing to remind Shell senior management of past sins and I will continue to do so. Anyone who visits this site regularly knows there is no shortage of negative news emerging about Shell. We also publish or provide links to ALL positive news stories about Shell.
To Wck Waldo: Way back in the late 1980′s Shell USA was facing the embarrassing prospect of posting the first annual operating loss in the history of the company. To avoid that problem Shell sold its facility at Woodcreek (which was originally named Turkey Creek, but the PR guys didn’t think that name appropriate). This sale was not announced to the staff but the information leaked anyway. So, my question is this: Did Shell buy back this piece of property, or are they simply leasing it ?? I suspect it is still being leased.
So it appears Shell Real Estate didn’t get the email about saving money. Only weeks after spending millions on landscaping at Woodcreek they announce they are going to dig it up to make way for roads and walkways to Woodcreek Alcatraz Blocks E and F along with the long awaited basketball court. Amazing planning !
John: I would pursue whatever legal action is appropriate with regard to any threats you have received. The issuance of such threats is meant to intimidate you. Without any direct knowledge of this situation it is my educated guess that they are motivated by Royal Dutch Shell. REPLY BY JOHN: I don’t think Shell has anything to do with particular matter.
Sgayoyo: There is a program beging aired on American television (through the PBS system I believe )that documents on film the environmental damage done by Shell in Ogoniland. What I found to be particularly interesting was the large number of abandoned oil wells that have never been plugged. The wells still have tubing in them and the well heads are so old they suffer from severe corrosion. The corrosion is so bad the wells leak both gas and oil. The gas pollutes the air and the oil pollutes the well sites, soaking the soil and running off into streams. Shell apparently didn’t want to bother with the expense of plugging these wells, so they just walked away from them. This is completely irresponsible conduct of course, but who is going to hold Shell responsible ?? Not the Nigerian government. It will cost millions to plug these wells properly, and millions more to clean up the damage, but Shell isn’t going to spend a dime doing so unless the government forces them to do so. That is not likely to happen in the near future. So, the uncontained release of gas and oil into the delta environment continues. If Shell were to pull this stunt in the States they would be fined billions and put out of business.
on Aug 22nd, 2012 at 15:38
USCitizen: You are back! The world of Shell loyalists has missed you terribly. Where oh where have you been? Vacation? Finishing school? Oh, well, it doesn’t matter. LondonLad needs help fending of the anti-Shell barbarians that clutter this blog with their anti-Shell propaganda. You two should team up. Come to think of it, I bet you guys already know one another.
You would know if you bother to ask pal, there are many many Shell folks who are very proud to work for this company. Many have come from other companies and are very pleased with the choice they made, I do not blame them. Have no idea who he is, could be one of thousands bud. I check this site once in a while and the need to comment on repeat drivel is not worth it, just like your bashings. Enjoy your life, I do!!
I find it indicative of Shell leadership’s understanding (or lack thereof) of their financial responsibilities to their shareholders, etc., to operate safely in a very high risk Arctic environment that senior management decides to resurrect (on the cheap) three beat-up and rotting derelicts ready for the breakers to form their Arctic drilling and spill containment fleet. And now, after 7 years of work and what – 4.5 billion ??, They still don’t have their rusting bird roost barge/spill containment barge refitted for Arctic service. Who planned this operation ??? So, guess what ??? Shell might not be able to drill this year. How much will this cost the company ??? Great going guys !! Let’s hear it for the water-walking management team running this show. Is anyone really surprised ??? Time to promote these people to positions where they can do no harm. All I can say is that I am glad I own Exxon stock and not Royal Dutch Shell stock.
USCitizen: You are back! The world of Shell loyalists has missed you terribly. Where oh where have you been? Vacation? Finishing school? Oh, well, it doesn’t matter. LondonLad needs help fending of the anti-Shell barbarians that clutter this blog with their anti-Shell propaganda. You two should team up. Come to think of it, I bet you guys already know one another.
Oh yeah , the advertisement with Shell name and the Nazi emblem is copyright infringement. Our lawyers will be calling you, oh never mind you talk to them every day!!
Whew – I sure am glad we were able to hold off that Total hostile takeover, had me nervous. Sure am glad this weakened company has survived!! And I am distraught to hear that we spent a lot of money on security in Nigeria, wow, never would have guessed. Keep up the good work!! These 10 year old news flashes are keeping me current!! PS – Why are you advertising for the Nazis gas company on your web page??
Jeeeez this website and more particularly the likes of the Guardian / tree hugging societies need to get realistic. So what if Shell (and many other oil companies in Nigeria) spend vast sums of money trying to protect their (AND shareholder) property/facilities from trouble makers and activists / thieves. I am sure that most law abiding people on this planet would like to do the same to defend their investment / prpoerty. Bottom line is that the Delta region is uncontrollable at the moment due to corruption and inept Governmental control (local and country). At the end of the day, even if the likes of the Ogoni’s and other tribes got what they wanted (i.e. independence from Abuja), the Delta tribes would continue to bicker, argue and “fight” each other. It’s just a continuation of past history. Yes, Ben Akari, this has nothing to do with “colonialism” but is a typical African tribal problem where everybody else is to blame but themselves. Seeing people killed by whoever is NOT acceptable. However, people AND companies have the right to defend their livelihood from thugs and thieves (be they politically motivated or otherwise).
P.S. I do NOT like this guy Fellaini. REPLY BY JOHN DONOVAN: “This website” is not responsible for any of the articles relating to Nigeria. We publish or provide links to all articles, positive or negative about Shell. Since you have raised the subject again, I would make the following points. A Shell VP Ann Pickard, bragged to American officials that Shell had embedded spies throughout the Nigerian government. A confidential independent report prepared for Shell by experts admitted that Shell activities have “inadvertently” fueled corruption and feeds the violence in Nigeria. It is also a matter of record that Shell has broken pledges to end gas flaring in Nigeria. Of course it is tough to do business in Nigeria. You have cited some of the reasons. Is it not right, under the circumstances, that Shell should have announced long ago that its business principles, pledging ethical trading, including respect for people, and environmental impact, do not apply in Nigeria. That would be a more honest approach. Shell cannot have it both ways.
Dear LondonLad : I read your note to Jim Footner of GreenPeace. Tsk, Tsk. Life is too short for this sort on nonsense. I would suggest that perhaps you need some anger management counseling. Peace, brother.
To Jim Footner, Head of Greenpeace climate & energy campaign, can you please confirm if you spend time, energy and money liaising/meeting/campaigning with governments and various “powers-that-be” over various “green” issues in order to try and persuade these governments and organizations to believe some of the ideology and clap trap you pontificate about? If you do, how do you do this? Walk? Bicycle? Of course not, you fly / wine & dine like everyone else on this planet who wants to put across their case. Bottom line is that once again Greenpeace / Guardian advocates one rule for themselves and one for others.
Got to end there as it’s so hot here (climate change and all that) and switch on the aircon.
P.S. Saints won yesterday and hopefully Utd. do the same tomorrow – these are THE important aspects of life not Green peace & Alaska
That was a nice article about Shell’s ‘guano’
barge. I could suggest some appropriate names for this resurrected ‘bird poop’ derelict, but I am certain Shell wouldn’t appreciate the humor.
Who would have thought the Girl Scout’s involvement with Greenpeace would have aroused such passionate reactions. Give it a break people. Go eat some of their cookies. They are pretty good. I buy them every year.
To compare Greenpeace to ruthless dictators is a little bit over the top, even for rabid Shell fans like yourself. That is like saying it was Little Red Riding Hood who ate Grandma, not the Big Bad Wolf. I would remind you that it was Royal Dutch Shell that willingly jumped into bed with the Fascist regimes and funded their rise to power in the early part of the 20th century. The end result was the carnage of WII and the death camps. And Shell did rat out its Jewish employees. I wonder how many survived the slave labor and death camps.
Shell’s history of cavorting with thugs when such conduct is profitable is long. It continues today in countries like Nigeria, where millions of children suffer as a result. And let’s not forget how Shell knowingly poisoned workers in its pesticide plants in Brazil after they were force to close their plants in the US because of the well document environmental and worker health issue.
You should seek a job with Shell’s propaganda machine, if you don’t work there already.
I assume “Amused” that you realize that dictators use children in front of their tanks. Greenpeace seem to be no different then by using children in front of their political agenda and to defend their often violent ways. Bottom line is that people still need to use fossil fuels and their by products – even nutters such as Greenpeace. Nobody on Earth can guarantee anything for 100% and in the case of Shell’s Arctic activities I am sure (<100% of course) that they will explore, drill and produce safely and environmentally well. Mother Nature has generally been able to cope with past oil spills – far better than the tree huggers who can’t cope with the situation.
P.S. too many seals around anyway, particularly with this new strain of flu they are spreading.
Royal Dutch Shell vs the Girl Scouts (and Greenpeace). This is something I really want to see. RD Shell has already lost the PR battle. This be would something akin to the clubbing of baby fur seals to death just so you could sell their snowy white hides for a small fortune.
Delusion at Shell? Please say it ain’t so. I remember years back when Shell hired a consultant to give it advice on how to retain top staff and point management problems/failings. Well, guess what. Shell refused to accept the report because it was so blisteringly critical of the ‘Shell way’ of doing business. They paid for the report, of course. But they refused to accept the conclusions and recommendations. This is ‘so Shell’.
Londonlad, well, thanks for your opinion, though Ogonis aren’t fighting any other tribe in Nigeria. You are not honest to have said that.
My honesty saying that there is faction in MOSOP doesn’t construe fighting against other tribes or ourselves. Ogonis disagree like the British,if you’re from there,and other people.
More importantly, Ogonis aren’t seeking independence via Goodluck Diigbo’s MOSOP faction Declaration,but local autonomy or self-rule that is popular in Nigeria and other parts of the world including USA.
If we seek independence we have what it takes to succeed, yet with human imperfections.
Note also that Ogonis have always peacefully and nonviolently demanded their rights; it’s the government and $hell,your seeming precursor which have over the years oppressed the Ogonis and have used communities such as the Andonis, Okrikas as proxies to kill us.
Currently, the many deaths recorded in Sogho,an Ogoni village is caused by the imposed activities of the illegal governor of Rivers State, Chibuike Amaechi, who didn’t contest any election but with long legs or “man know man “as synonymous with Nigeria, he’s declared governor by the court,which claimed he’s the one chosen by his party, same party (PDP),which dropped him and picked someone else as its candidate.
Meanwhile, Amaechi wants to construct a banana plantation Ogoni don’t want, even as he relocate universities and other people-based development projects to or near his village. Because Ogonis are resisting such imposition and disrespect they must die by the guns of local and foreign thugs he employs.
This is the story of the Ogoni people from when the British colonialists illegally and criminally invaded and conquered our people in early 1900, destroying all we have and handed things over to Nigeria,which makes things worse than under the British.
Same as for the Jocks in Scintland, I would really like to see the Ogonis get full independence and see how they progressed / survived ON THEIR OWN. In Scotland they failed centuries ago to retain independence because of continuous infighting and mistrust between the clans. Fast forwarding to present day I doubt very much that the Ogonis will progress as they are continually fighting other tribes AND themselves. Ben Ikari and his comments on Goodluck Diigbo highlight this problem as far as I am concerned. Once again I can only reiterate my opinion that indeed Shell (AND many other oil companies / NNPC) screwed up with oil spillages, but, THE major problem now with the Delta region is tribal infighting (i.e. finger pointing to everyone and anyone but themselves) and locals who want to steal oil from pipelines via sabotage (of course as with most Nigerians they will deny their illegal and dangerous actions). So to Ben Ikari I say go for independence and let’s see who you can blame for any problems that you encounter on the way.
Although Goodluck Diigbo and his MOSOP faction didn’t do this in good faith considering the ill-consultative and awareness creating methods and sharp division in MOSOP.
The Nigerian Tribune and other media should get it right and be accurate in their reporting, as baseless and trouble-shooting hot captions such as the above will take us nowhere.
What the Goodluck Diigbo MOSOP faction in Ogoni declared on August 2, wasn’t Ogoni Republic rather, as the declaration states, was/is self-rule or governance for Ogoni within Nigeria.
This is like the many ethnic groups such as Hausa-Fulani, Yoruba and Igbo or the Ijaws and Ibibio which have self-rule by having multiple states created for their ethnic groups (the first three so-called majority especially).
The media and confused public must therefore get it right. Self-rule or self-determination within the framework of a sovereign state such as Nigeria isn’t an offense or treason and treasonable felony as the Rivers State governor Chibuike Amaechi,Ogoni oppressor and other Nigerians have ignorantly claimed.
Ogoni had self-rule in 1947 under the leadership of Timothy Naakuu Paul Birabi, and within the protectorate under colonial British rule, though it wasn’t the kind of free self-rule it had before colonial control.
Correct London Lad, its almost as sickening as Culpeppers email yesterday to all staff threatening “a more vibrant, engaging and productive workplace” What a joke, and once again so so wrong. People survey talks and Shell doesn’t listen. Chevron tried and failed, lets hope “open plan” goes the same way and takes Culpepper with it.
What sort of Shell HR crap is this “Empowering Innovation through Meditation”!! Hope it’s a joke….. Yet again HR come forth with some brainless idea to take technical staff eyes off the ball. Unfortunately I bet HR have again brainwashed some board member to have it implanted in his end-of-year scorecard so that it gets “forced” downwards through the system.
RD Shell does not nourish innovation. It encourages and promotes industrial espionage at any opportunity. Like all large companies, thinking outside the box and being a ‘non-conformist’ entails taking ‘risk’. Taking great calculated risk is what has made Silicon Valley so successful. This is a completely foreign concept to a company full of, fawning, posterior venerating managers whose only real skill is the politics of climbing the corporate ladder.
Well, what can we say about RD Shell’s barge problems ? To fracture a famous quote how about – ‘For the want of a functioning barge a kingdom was lost ? ‘ Perhaps not. But one does have to wonder about the future of a company whose ‘star’ management team cannot get their act together after how many years of planning ? 7 ? Or was it only 5? RD Shell’s poor project management skills clearly threaten the long term health of the company.
Can LondonLad or USCitizen or any other rabid fan of Royal Dutch Shell explain why RDS has failed to waive the $75 million limit on damages related to any oil spill in the US Arctic. Come to think of it, maybe Marvin Odum or Peter Voser would like to comment on this. Me thinks RDS wants to put the USG on the hook for cleanup costs in the Arctic if they should have a major problem. Am I not correct???
Royal Dutch Shell is going to sue Greenpeace where ? In the US. The US is NOT Nigeria. The courts and the law are not for sale in this country. Citizens and organizations do have the right of freedom of speech, and the right of freedom of assembly. That means the Greenpeace folks can run their little boats around Shell’s ships shouting slogans and waving banners, and so on. If Shell has to put up with walruses ‘disturbing the peace’ and making a nuisance of themselves then the same holds true for the Greenpeace folks. Like it or not in territorial US waters US law is the name of the game and Royal Dutch Shell has to put up with Greenpeace.
I see that Royal Dutch Shell is planning to challenge the $5 billion fine for an oil spill. I think Shell is getting off cheap given all the damage they have caused. And I suspect the Nigerians are using this spill to make up for past ‘oversights’. Eventually, the chickens do come home to roost.
for Texvette: you are completely right. But as an old cynic (realist?) I like to remind you of that nice english saying: None so deaf as those who will not hear. I fear this is applicable to most directors in the current world.
A good safety leader would coach Marvin and tell him where he is going wrong. The last two have been incapable of doing that. You are 100% correct though about it starting at the top.
LondonLad: Are you by chance Dutch ? Just curious.
Reply to LondonLad: The quoted statement does not mean that we are in possession of every conceivable item of information about Shell. We do not have the information you are seeking.
Do any RD Shell insiders know when Shell will pull out of the UK completely ?
With the oft repeated advert that this site is the “Worlds leading source of information about Royal Dutch Shell”, can I again ask if J.D. could provide me with an updated organigram of the E&P organisation as the official Shell website no longer allows such information to be open to the public domain.
LondonLad: You have a sense of humor ! Who would have guessed. In case you are wondering, not being ‘full of it’ I have no need for EXLAX. Have a nice day.
I cannot speak to Saro-Wiwa’s case specifically, but I can address the Shell mindset from around 1990 when I worked for Shell Western E & P in Houston (one of literally dozens of Shell entities in Houston). I was commissioned to write event-tracking software for safety incidents and environmental incidents. One quantity to be tracked was exceedances (exceedences? no one was ever certain of the spelling), i.e., cases in which spills or upsets of dangerous substances exceeded legal thresholds for those substances. How did the project manager decide to handle exceedances? He created a number called “opportunities for exceedance,” the number and total amount of spills that could be committed without exceeding the law. For each relevant substance, my program was to report not just the number and quantity of spills, but the number and quantity that could have been committed without violating the threshold set in law. Of course the laws were lax, and always made Shell look good, however many spills there were.That was their corporate attitude, and my program was required to reflect it… I had no say in the matter. It does not surprise me that Saro-Wiwa’s life was regarded primarily as a business matter for Shell. That seems to be the nature of multinational corporations, and Saro-Wiwa paid with his life for fighting against one of the largest of them.
With an acronym like “Relieved” I assume you have great experience of Exlax??!! Whilst I’m at it, can John D. provide any update on the Shell E&P organigram? – used to be able to piece bits & pieces together when the Shell website (the real one that is) was more “open”, however, it seems impossible to find out who is where and doing what.
LondonLad: You need to take your EXLAX on a regular basis. It will do wonders for your overall disposition. Sorry, but I don’t have a remedy for intellectual constipation.
After the BP Oil Spill in 2010 Shell laid off people only over 40 at their IT office in Houston, TX (OST). Denied it was discrimination, denied it was because of the Oil Spill then implimented a policy in effect now, not to rehire any severanced employees. Shell Oil just needs to take it down hard and leave. I will never, ever buy Shell gasoline or any other product from Shell or one of their many Joint Ventures or sister companies.
nice video from Deutsche Welle. For other viewers: fast forward to 20 minutes.
You are doing a great job, keep trucking!
To Also Relieved: You seem to imply that sacking the safety manager will improve safety. Safety has to be the focus of the top leader of the organization. I cannot understand how Marvin Odum continues to have one of the worst safety records in Shell (perhaps industry) and all he does is change safety managers and focus on the use of handrails on the stairs of the Woodcreek cafeteria. The “tone” for safety HAS to start at the top. This is not — and has not been happening in Americas EP
“or other fraudulent scheme” – covers a multitude of sins and thus legally will not allow any suing. Jeeeez Donovan what sort of journalism would allow you to encourage such actions?!?! AGAIN the chip on your shoulder appears to be very very large indeed!! You also use the words “over-excited” – you need to look at yourself in the mirror occasionally. At the end of the day I hope Shell sue these idiots who make fake videos and make a lot of bullshit statements. REPLY BY JOHN: Hello LondonLad/Musaint, you seem rather agitated. I have explained the precise grounds on which the people behind the fake adverts may have a legitimate claim for defamation against Shell. Since we have successfully sued Shell twice for libel, I have some credibility in such matters. What precisely are your suggested legal grounds for Shell being able to sue the perpetrators of the campaign? What credibility do you have. Have you ever sued anyone for libel? Are you a barrister? Or are you just an undeclared paid or unpaid Shell spokesperson defending the indefensible, as you often do here. You even attempt to defend its conduct in Nigeria when an independent 93 page report prepared and paid for by Shell, made a series of admissions about the companies dire impact on Nigeria. Yes, there are background problems in Nigeria in terms of endemic corruption and yes Shell does have to compete against its rivals. But it should drop the claim to operate within a set of business principles pledging honesty, integrity, openness etc when it actually engages in all kinds of unethical activity, including arming Nigerian police spies and conniving with Nigerian militants, embedding spies in the Nigerian government and repeatedly promising to end gas flaring, but failing to do so. As for operating in a country with endemic corruption, my guess is that Shell much prefers it that way. It has expertise in handing out big bribes e.g. to the Sultan of Brunei.
So Hurricane Denise finally blew itself out and ran out of energy. Such a shame it did so much damage by not listening to people. One year on and the Americas safety performance is worse and a lot of good people benched. At least Marvin did the right thing.
Ah, LondonLad, you possess some degree of curiousity. My remarks were clear and stand as is.
Assume “Relieved” that your last sentence applies to just the PR group of RDS? If not you are way, way, wide of the mark. That said, have you, or do you work for Shell? If that’s a no then how do you manage to make such a pontificated remark?
Londonlad: You need to face reality, boy. The fact of the matter is that RDS’s genius media guru’s got brilliantly stung, and big time, by GreenPeace. So, much for the ‘Let’s Go’ campaign. This is, of course, a huge embarassment for RDS. Face it, RDS doesn’t have the ‘best and brightest’ working for them in their PR group. Lot’s of shameless, groveling suckups YES. Talent NO.
Strange that if the idiots from Greenpeace conduct an elaborate (and illegal??) hoax against Shell it’s met with stupid comments from this Gabrielle Levy such as “yet another successful viral campaign” and “pranksters” – hardly madam. These people again act illegally and defend their actions as though once again (and incorrectly) they are defending the majority. Adding the word “brilliant” to the headline story is once again tabloid journalism!!
I love the sub-article in Wikipedia on Greenpeace : “They have worked to create awareness of important environmental issues since the 1970’s, but their methods, accuracy, and effectiveness have ranged from controversial to comical to scandalous. Greenpeace activism is based upon the simplification of complex issues into epic battles between good and evil. Rather than devoting a lot of resources into educating the public, Greenpeace, like most political activist groups, tries to create sensationalist drama to grab attention and put simplistic issues in the headlines.”
Better informed than Greenpeace and tree-huggers at times. I still chuckle when I think of the vast volumes of pollutants Greenpeace stated were in Brent Spar. Bottom line at the end of the day is that most normal people want / need fossil fuels to lead a life they desire. Even Greenpeace use it to fuel their ships, fly around the world to tree-hugging conferences and drive to Shell petrol stations to create havoc. As for being paranoid and intolerant, that should be levelled at the likes of Greenpeace and other “scruffy” organizations who, as a clear minority on this planet, seem to want to dictate to the majority that their views are the correct way ahead. Wonder how many votes a “Greenpeace” party would get in a countrywide vote – very few aka other UK Green parties.
P.S. well done to John in his speed of posting – pity it’s not an Olympic event!!
For LondonLad: Back again ! Great ! I do so enjoy your opinionated and ill informed posts. FYI – I am a hugger, but I am not into trees. You, my friend, are paranoid and intolerant, and appear to have been watching too many cheap and cheesy corporate propaganda flicks. Tree huggers are generally harmless folks, no matter what you may think of their views on politics or the environment.
LondonLad: I think you’ll find that many of the people contributing work in the oil industry, and simply resent the damage done to the reputation of all in the industry by the actions of a few unscrupulous incompetents.
Methinks that some of these “contributions” below concerning Shell drilling in the Arctic are from Greenpeace and “tree huggers” as they have suddenly / rapidly been posted (OR is someone asleep and not posting these quickly enough?). As far as I am concerned (yet again) these buffoons have to travel around the world to make their complaints so how do they travel? – by bicycle? All I can say is watch out Bradley Wiggins for these tree huggers – yellow jersey in the Tour de France for the uninitiated. REPLY BY JOHN TO MUSAINT/LondonLad: Your contribution was published within 9 minutes.
Ancient Mariner: fair point, although the published specs for the vessel show 10 identical anchors. If Dutch Harbor is known for poor holding, why were no suitable precautions taken? Why was no pre-laid mooring available? Was anyone on watch on either the Discoverer or the tugs? Even the cheapest marine GPS units have a facility to warn of a dragging anchor. And this all took place in broad daylight. It seems all too similar to the Exxon Valdez, albeit without the spill. Poor planning, and unprofessional execution.
It is clear from your article on the risk Shell is taking in its Arctic exploration program that investors and shareholders are being misled. This is no different than the ‘reserve fraud’ scandal that shook Shell 8 years ago. Shell management has a bad habit of engaging in deliberate deception when it suits their needs. A major spill in the Arctic could take the company down, but have investors and shareholders bought into this policy through informed discussion. No. Shell management is hiding the ‘downside’ potential of these activities.
This is for Shell’s propoganda organs regarding the grounding (yes the darn thing obiously was grounded) of the Noble Discoverer :
“Lier, Lier pants on fire …..’
Now, if this ship had been a US Navy ship, or a Royal Navy ship, the entire wardroom would have been relieved for gross incompetence. I presume Shell is going to insist on a change in the command structure for this vessel. Or am I p**** into the wind??
Presumably Shell will now prosecute everyone on the beach at Dutch Harbor for breaching the court ordered exclusion zone?
Insider, the Discovery was not using the same mooring system as it will use during drilling operations. The drilling operations are controlled by the use of a 8 anchor system not the single one used for mooring the vessel in Dutch Harbor. Many ships have problems anchoring in Dutch Harbor as it has very sandy bottom and as such does not have good holding.
London Lad – Where oh where have you been ? It is so good to see that you have not disappeared on us.
You state Donovan that : “Some contributors using an alias have built up credibility over the years e.g. ‘Outsider’ “ – so only those who choose to bemoan Shell for this that and the other are credible. Hmmmm what about MUSaint who spoke such words of wisdom.
I am sorry, but, Paddy Briggs at times has got a very big chip on his shoulder against Shell – it would be of great interest to know why!! At the end of the day there are many who have worked for Shell or have a vested interest in Shell (shares) who support the work they are doing worldwide. The oil industry is, at times, unfortunately a “messy” business that requires oil companies to (including Shell) join in the necessary business approach. This includes the likes of Signature Bonuses, Corporate Boxes at sporting events and most importantly the giving of vast sums of money to countries to attempt alleviate the lack of funding by corrupt countries (e.g. Nigeria) on their own people for basics.
Gawsh, I wish I had a corporate box at Old Trafford…… REPLY BY JOHN: Paddy Briggs seems to be very well thought of by Shell colleagues bearing in mind that he was elected to his current function as a Trustee of the Shell Contributory Pension Fund. All of his postings here have been in his own name. That says a lot. He is prepared to take responsibility for what he says. I am perfectly happy to acknowledge you and MUSAINT as being examples of alias users who have built up credibility here. As previously mentioned, I have suspicions that you are one and the same. Certainly share many opinions including on Shell in Nigeria. Comments above would then amount to self-praise…
If the Discoverer’s mooring system cannot even hold position in a 35mph wind, what is this rig doing in the Arctic? Loss of position while drilling, and especially during a well control incident would create a very dangerous situation.
Shell bought the Discoverer through its subsidiary Frontier Drilling and operated the vessel for several years before selling the rig with Frontier Drilling to Noble in 2010. It is therefore somewhat disingenuous of Shell to blame Noble for the failure to meet the emissions standards. Does anyone really believe Shell’s comment that there are no generators on the market that meet the current emissions standards?
On April 27, I described as “a gushing farce” Shell’s supposed “impressive achievement” in managing to “clock up just shy of one million Facebook fans in under two months?” There is now a question mark over the possible manipulation of “Likes”in regards to brands featured on Facebook. Websites allowing aliases to be used are especially vulnerable to manipulation. That includes Wikipedia and blogs, such as this one. It follows that I can only vouch for the authenticity of postings made in my name or by contributors such as Paddy Briggs, who choose not to use an alias. Some contributors using an alias have built up credibility over the years e.g. “Outsider”.
Everyone working in the refining business (I have never worked for Shell) knows that refineries can be dangerous places if you don’t stay on your toes. So, can you Port Arthur Shell guys tell the rest of us non-Shell guys what happened to Shell’s process hazard reduction plan ? Surely, they have such a plan at that new $10bln facility ? Hello ? Can anyone in Shell management explain what the F*** happened ? Or perhaps simple, wonton, gross imcompetence on the part of senior management is the only and best answer.
Shell knew all along that their drilling ship couldn’t meet the required clean air standards and apparently made no effort to upgrade and meet those standards. Switch and Bait ???? This is way beyond that. This is utter contempt for the regulatory system and the pristine environment Shell will be working in. They are scaming the system and making the requlating proffesions look like ITS all their fault.
The Discoverer is a 1960′s era vessel – it should come as no surprise that it cannot meet current emission requirements (any more than a 1960′s vintage automobile would be able to pass a current emissions test)
This Shell porn thing is too good to let go by without making a few more comments. One can imagine how the terminology and slang of the oil field will fit into Shell’s new business. These terms take on a whole new meaning. For example, ‘dry hole’, T&A’d, ‘nipple up’, ‘gusher’, ‘exploratory test’, ‘blowout preventer’, and so on, and on. I better stop or John won’t print this. Sorry, folks but this was too good to pass up.
Read the article on 5 years and $10b later…. this comment is made….
I’m really having a hard time wrapping my mind around what happened at this Motiva plant. A few things puzzle me. ….
This is not a puzzle to us that are here. This project was bad from the start…. Tom Purves put all of his old cronies on this project to allow them to end their career on a high note…. He was told repeatedly by people in the know that Bechtel was the wrong choice…. this issue with the caustic was missed in the PHA…. Also, his biggest crony, Jeff Funkhouser, a fundamental joke, was brought over here to get him out of Norco and apply his heavy hand on the leadership team who was here trying to make this project / plant run. Jeff has no clue and neither does Tom for that matter re how to run big projects. Yet they were the two leads at the end of the day on this project. This project flopped at the end of the day, is a big embarrassment to the owners….and where are Tom and Jeff now? Are they being held accountable for this mess? Nope. Tom is now in Upstream. He left as soon as they swept up the confetti from the celebration. Jeff is now in Global Solutions working on….Operational Excellence in project startup. This is so Shell. Jeff is such a part of the problem on this one and he rides out under the night cover to do it again in another part of the world….and we wonder why Shell has this big fiasco.
Tom and Jeff should both be fired…. Shell is not and will not change because of their terrible leadership at this point in time. A great company in the past but not anymore.
Tom, you should be ashamed of what you created.
Jeff you should just be ashamed.
My comments on Bruce Culpepper were just my opinion, I respect that others may have different ones. Personally, I’ve seen him do the right thing on a couple of different occasions where there have been difficult individual & HR issues. Obviously not things i’d share on a website, but I assure you that when i’ve seen him have the chance to screw someone over or use the system to get the fair answer, he did the latter.
Obviously others have seen a different side, but I stand by my view.
For TexasExpat: You must not have been around Shell much. Culpepper is one of the biggest “suck ups”/”yes men” in the company. He presents a facade that he is representing the employee, but he is 100% “company”. Please give examples of when he stood up to his bosses in The Hague that resulted in a change.
I was going through the links on the porno article and ran across comments about the ‘Baptist Mafia’ at Shell USA. It is there, no doubt about it. And it was there in the early 1980′s when I first went to work for Shell. Many a promoted incompetent got his ‘reward’ for simply being ‘one of the true believers’. And many people, particularly support staff took in the teeth at evaluation time if their conduct was deemed to not be ‘morally sound.’ The situation has worsened over the years. It reminds of Gulf Oil (which is now extinct). At Gulf you had no chance of any decent career with the company unless you were a Mason. This Baptist thing at Shell has got to go. I agree w/ the Brits and the Dutch. It is like a cancer. These people are the most duplicitous,
First is was sex and drugs at DOI, now it is whips and chains at Circle K/Shell.
Makes one wonder about senior Shell management and their recreational habits.
What an interesting blog !!! How does Shell survive this kind of PR ???
Somebody in top management needs to seek employment elsewhere. Peddling porn ??? Before we know it, Shell will form a subsidiary that will be a ‘private’ backer of the porn making industry in S. California, and will reap the profits that come with porn production. Maybe they already have. Rumor has it that ATT has such a subsidiary, and that it is HUGELY profitable. Selling sex for big $$$ is definitely easier and quicker than exploring for oil and gas.
And another inquiry for some intrepid investigator: Maybe these 240 Shell stations in Florida are also now selling ‘behind the counter adult sophisticate’ magazines. Can anyone verify this ?? It would not surprise me one bit given Circle K’s policy on porn in its branded stores.
Now that we know Shell is attempting to set moral standards when it is profitable to do so, we should probe a little deeper on this issue. Circle K stores also generally have ‘behind the counter’ porno mags for sale. Hustler magazine being one of several. Can anyone verify that these Circle K stores that sell Shell gasoline are still selling the ‘behind the counter adult sophisticate’ magazines ?? Maybe Shell’s moral hypocrisy runs deeper than is acknowledged.
Thanks Bruce for your response! So what is the point of a Shell People Survey if it is going to be ignored ? It is the only feedback forum people have and it is a joke. Fully agree about Hague driven decisions but senior leaders need to grow some and stand up to this. Culpepper is one of the ones who is afraid to do that and is quite happy working from his large office and managing his own career. Has anyone seen any conclusive evidence that open plan offices are more “collaborative” apart from open trading floors. I doubt it, The real truth is that it is all about space occupancy and cost. Yes the sea will come in but the tide will turn back again, unfortunately long after we have lost some great talent and potential.
Thanks for the clarification Regular Contributor. I was exposed primarily to Downstream and I can attest that Rolex watches were not presented as anniversary awards. I fully agree with everything else you said in your posts. Loyalty is a two way street. Shell US used to be totally loyal to it’s employees and the employees were totally loyal to the company. Post John Bookout (primarily during the Phil Carroll tenure) we learned that employees were no longer a “valued asset” of the company. While we still get new employees to join the company, they are looking for a pay check/”punching their ticket” vs. enjoying working for Shell and wanting to pursue a long term career. This is — and will continue, to cost the company from an experience standpoint. While all companies have made a shift from employee loyalty, I know of no other oil major that has done it to the extreme as Shell.
To be fair to Bruce Culpepper, I think someone should put a different perspective across. Firstly, the Shell Real Estate strategy isn’t something that I suspect he gets to define or decide, but like most people has to make the best of what is (I agree) a bad job. I didn’t hear his comments, but I know that there are fights that won’t go anywhere, and arguing against open plan offices in Shell is like complaining at the sea for coming in – however passionately people argue, it ain’t gonna change anything, so the most honest approach is to work out how to make the best of the situation as is really is.
Secondly, I’ve worked around a whole bunch of HR folks, and trust me, he is one of the good ones. Not someone who just focuses on HR and doesn’t have any personality or balls, and given some of the alternatives – i think you guys should count your blessings!
Bigger issue for me would be the constant flow of Hague dominated decisions that then can’t be stopped, even at these senior levels, when the don’t make any sense on the ground, outside of Holland.
To Texvette – You have got to be kidding me. This was standard procedure in E&P operations for the professional staff when I went to work for Shell USA in the early 1980′s. A very nice dinner was included where senior division management attended the award. Surely, you must have seen senior Shell personnel wearing Rolex watches with a Pecten and diamonds on them. It was quite a common site when I worked for Shell. But then Shell USA was a different company than it is today. People actually used to like working for Shell. It was fun. I loved working for Pecten Int., Shell USA’s international division. Shell treated their valued staff quite well. And Shell only very rarely hired experienced personnel from outside the company. They preferred to hire them straight out of college, train them in the ‘Shell way’, and to promote from within. Exxon still follows that method.
In my day at Shell, John Hofmeister (remember him) would NEVER have been hired or given the position he was. It would have been absolutely unthinkable. He knew little if anything about the oil industry. Shell trained personnel were also in great demand within the industry, and it was difficult to keep good staff. And in a perverse way, Shell management used to say that they had trained half the people in the oil industry. There was a good deal of truth in that statement. For several years I taught both exploration and production engineering courses at Bellaire Research Center. Those were much different times, it was a different generation, and clearly it was a much different, and much better company to work for.
TO: “Regular Contributor” – Could you please let me know when Shell US presented Rolex watches to commemorate a service anniversary. This is the first I ever heard of this and I have great grandparents, grand parents, parents and relatives that have worked for Shell and never heard of this. I do agree with your comments about Shell totally and completely ignoring the results of the Shell People Survey. Like Culpepper, the Survey is a joke.
And while I am making comments, when I first went to work for Shell I had my very own office, with a real desk, 3 office chairs, a large book case for my technical reference material (I am an engineer) and two full sized filing cabinets, along with a private phone line. Hello???? What the F*** is HR up to these days. Get your heads out of your backsides and breath some good air for a change.
There was a day when Shell USA handed out a Rolex wrist watch for the 10th year anniversary of loyal service. After that they handed out diamonds that went on the watch for every additional 5 years of service, I believe. I did stay around long enough. Shell has really gone down the tubes if all they hand out for 10 years of service is crap like photos. They might cost $10.
Mr Culpepper strikes again and tells senior leaders to suck it up and support the new Shell Real Estate vision of the future. The new open concept is a tremendous step backwards for all of those less than LC but is widely supported by senior management. So Culpepper, why do you not listen to the staff on these issues, is it just pure arrogance when you totally ignore the last three years of Shell People surveys, which quite obviously show you that people DISLIKE their working conditions. Instead SRE go off on a multi million-dollar campaign to plant trees and flowers to make Alcatraz Woodcreek Branch look appealing. The truth of the matter it that it is the inside which needs to be changed. Do you really think we like sitting three feet away from each other. Are we expected to lay eggs next? Where is the Employee Value Proposition which has been quoted so often in the past? In my opinion it has been so eroded and then you wonder why we struggle to recruit new staff. How many graduates would be thrilled when they see their new portable office ! No desk of their own just a portable container. Wake Up Culpepper, start listening for a change. Oh and while I am ranting do you really think Upstream people want a picture of a gas station as a long service award !! I recently got my 10 year award and was so disappointed it went in the trash. A gas station!!!! Just shows you how out of touch HR is as well.
Indeed Shell was not mentioned in the article, however, they have repeatedly been linked to fracking by yourself and tree-hugging societies in the past. I should have used your approach and “added” the title : “Shell effectively given go ahead for fracking by expert societies”.
Seems that you missed an article on fracking in today’s Daily Telegraph (but still continue to produce old stories about Shell due to lack of negative material against them). It states that scientists from the Royal Academy of Engineering and the Royal Society say that the method for extracting gas should be approved, subject to tight regulations and continuous monitoring. They also state that fracking can trigger small earthquakes but that at ground level these tremors would be no more than those caused by a lorry passing a house. Additionally the chances of water being contaminated were very low. Of course I will no doubt get some tree-hugger telling me they know more than the Royal Academy of Engineering and The Royal Society – very much like Greenpeace got the “correct” numbers (NOT) for the pollution potential of Brent Spar!! REPLY BY JOHN: Added a link to the article you mention, which does not include any reference to Shell. That must have been a tongue-in-cheek comment about a lack of negative material bearing in mind current articles e.g. the $10 BILLION Motiva debacle. Due to IT incompatibility I am currently manually importing over 7,000 articles from an earlier incarnation of this website. Will be doing so on a daily basis until end of April 2013. Currently transferring articles that appeared on 29 June 2004 and 29 June 2005. Consequently many articles covering the relevant Shell AGM’s held at that time each year, the 2004 AGM dealing with the reserves scandal and the 2005 AGM, the unification arising from the scandal. Almost all articles negative about Shell. Sometimes give into temptation to feature some of the juicy ones in current news. Now that I know it upsets you, the temptation will be even greater.
Port Arthur — Shell UPPER MANAGEMENT at its “finest”!! How many more bi$$ion will it take before you get it right !?!?!?
Re: Motiva Refinery Debacle – Unbelievable. Lock-out, Tag-out, the most basic safety rule, strikes again. The same thing that blew-up Piper Alpha. Caustic – the same thing that blew up Norco. Unbelievable. And Caustic doesn’t just pit stainless, it causes cracks in stress areas. They will have to use advanced ultrasound techniques on every millimeter of hundreds of miles of piping because a hidden crack will propagate and cause a failure days or years in the future. Might as well melt it all down and start over.
The image of Marvin Odum with pecten shaped bubbles emanating from his lower back says it all…. (See article Marvin Odum blathering on)
Let me comment on the Niger Delta’s Environmental Problems and gas flaring in general. If half of the bile directed at the oil majors had instead been directed at the Alams, OBJs, Odilis, etc, perhaps the people of the Delta would have had a little breather from the perpetual flames of the gas flares. Instead, they continue screaming their guts out at Shell, Chevron, etc, when in fact it is the responsibility of the State (FG) to improve infrastructure in their poverty-stricken region, to enforce tight environmental regulations, etc. I believe the oil companies are doing exactly what other multinational companies anywhere would do – taking advantage of lax laws in a region with some of the poorest black Africans anywhere. What profit-generating company would not do the same. These are, afterall, the most nameless, faceless, voiceless people in a voiceless country. And as long as the people of the Delta continue turning out in the millions to welcome Alams, Odili, etc from prison or the drag-ball (in the case of Alams), it’s business as usual.It is not Shell’s responsibility to build houses, hospitals, roads, or to guarantee the quality of air in the oil producing regions. Indeed, it is not their responsibility to put an end to gas flaring by building gas pipelines into a country that essentially has no industrial capacity, particularly when a substantial chunk of Nigeria’s money-generating industry is faraway in Lagos. The FG is responsible for enforcing these laws, and even here in the US, when (in the early 1970s) it became clear that lead (in leaded fuels) was bad for three-way catalysts that removed unburned hydrocarbons and also could get into drinking water, the Feds enforced the laws – they did not wait around for ExxonMobil and oil companies to change their stance on leading petrol. That’s a Government. Nigeria hasn’t got one.And as for the people of the Delta, they can keep screaming their guts out. They’d better get used to the death, destruction and oppression they’ve been saddled with for the past 50 years. There’s plenty more where that came from, and as long as the world has its insatiable thirst for oil, it’s coming!
Well, for Motiva, CEP isn’t woth $12B if the crude unit can’t run. It was filled up with caustic and caustic washed the whole unit. There are thousands of feet of pipe that have to be replaced. The fire started due to leaking pipe. What a mess. So ironic to see Uncle Tom Purves talking about us getting rates up to planned levels as we are bringing the unit down. This unit was the worst part of the whole project. I guess we will get to see Jeff Funkhouser come over to “help” the new leadership team. Tom won’t since he got the hell out. Needless to say we won’t be starting this unit up anytime soon. We got it up in time for the senior execs to get off the clock and then back down to rebuild the unit. Geez…..
Is anyone surprised with the current issues with the new crude unit at Port Arthur. Word has it that: 1) the problems are much more severe than being reported, and 2) this is just “the tip of the iceberg”. Some wonder if the new $13 billion worth of units will ever start-up
I completely agree with you in your presentation about the involvement or complicity of the Nigerian government in the $hell’s crimes against Ogoni and Niger delta. I have, of course, repeatedly mentioned this involvement or slick, killer alliance. My current campaign focusing on Nigeria and not $hell alone speaks to this effect. In short, I have a protest coming up at the Nigerian Embassy in Washington DC, Wednesday, June 13, at 10am. This is to let the embassy know what Ogonis and their friends in the US know about the role of government in the crimes against our people and the degradation of our environment. We shall be sending a message to the government in Nigeria through the Ambassador.
Meanwhile, it is instructive to note that most of government’s behavior in Nigeria as they relate to oil and the people are influenced by $hell, which evidence shows places its staff everywhere in government that is sensitive to its business so as to influence and manipulate decisions, laws or rules and regulations affecting her interests. One example is the current petroleum minister, Alison Madueke, who is reported to have been trained in school by $hell. The joint venture between government and $hell makes matters worse. In nutshell, both government and $hell are responsible for the predicaments of Ogoni and so are liable, thus must be held accountable. Nigerian government is one of such baby or kitchen governments in the world, which allows corporations to dictate the lives of their own people. This government is not worth calling a government, but shame and sham-a corrupt ,deadly and ever incompetent entity.
While I believe SHELL should be held responsible for ruining countless Ogoni people’s life and degrading the environment in the Ogony land, I believe the SO CORRUPTED Nigerian Government must be held accountable as well. It is sad that all of these slaughtering and complice to corruption have been ongoing for more than 5 decades and the world is just now learning about it. Ben, I command your courage and determination in getting the word out, and shedding some lights into SHELL’S practice in Nigeria. Practices that are unacceptable, shameful, and for which it is totally fair for you, Ogony people,to seek justice for. But, just for your information, SHELL wasn’t the first, nor the last that have taken advantage of AFRICAN people’s wealth,and contibuted to degrading the environment carelessly in Africa. ELF oil has done the same thing in the Democratic Republic of Congo in the past, and got away with it, leaving those Congolese in the poorest health conditions. It is only fair to seek for justice and I wish the Ogony people Good luck.
Well, finally…. not the announcement that we all wanted to see, but good enough for us. Tom Purves…GOOD RIDDANCE. He is going to Upstream as an Operations Excellence VP. What a fall for this guy!!! We had hoped it would be a retirement notice. He now can slither off down I-10 and go ACT like he is adding value to Shell’s Upstream. This gets him finally out of Motiva and out of Port Arthur. Tom, your legacy is a joke. You leave us nothing. This project ended up being overspent( $12B, not $10B as Shell says in the media) and 2 years past due. Tom, you ruined many people’s good careers in this march to the top of Mount Purves Ego. I hope you look in the mirror and see the real Purves one day and can live with what you have done. Good riddance. You are a non event and that is how you will go out. Buried in Shell with a nothing job…. But, you were actually good at doing this your whole career so it will work out fine. To see you being operations excellence VP over projects is a joke but typical Shell. Do us all one last favor and take Funkhouser with you. We all know where he will go if you do…. We also know where he will go if you don’t.
With respect to the WSJ (one of Rupert Murdoch’s stable of unimpeachable “journals”) article on the strike in PDO one glaring error stands out. PDO is 60% owned by the Government of the Sultanate of Oman. Shell’s share is 30%. Shell discharges a role of technical adviser and seconds a (diminishing) number of staff to the company which is directed by a 12 man board, seven members of which represent the government. The Chairman is the Minister of Oil & Gas, someone who does not shrink from a leadership role. This picture does not fit with the statement “Royal Dutch Shell PLC (RDSA) – led Petroleum Development Oman.
Motiva CEO and Saudi Aramco states that cost for the expansion are in the range of $10B…… give or take $2B. This sounds like the rubbish that Purves keeps feeding these goons. Purves, you looked old today…. Go home and cash in your worthless Shell stock. Enjoy your tea!!!
“Londonlad,” well you dodged my question about your name like $hell will dodge every genuine attempt by Ogoni to ask for respect and that it adhere to its own business philosophy of honesty, integrity…
Be informed, and you may have known by now that Ogonis are victims of $hell business.
The company has made billions of dollars like the Nigerian government. Or do you forget that the government do not know the actual number of barrels of oil $hell extract daily; that $hell just give what it pleases?
Finally, Ogonis are not interested in getting anything from $hell rather, we are rightfully seeking justice for the harm the company has done us. It is factual that $hell collaborated to kill Ogonis and poisoned, degrade our environment. It was at $hell’s behest that Ken Saro-Wiwa was murdered-the facts are there; Abacha was only used by $hell to achieve that. The company thought once Saro-Wiwa was out of the way it can rest from Saro-Wiwa’s campaign that exposes the degradation, which UNEP report confirms and other abuses (human rights violations) caused by $hell. The company’s spy network and deadliness, even lies and other corrupt practices are not synonymous with Ogoni situation alone. Records are revealing the company exhibit similar attitude everywhere except its home-countries of Britain or UK and Netherlands, other states of Europe and America.
Interestingly, the Ogoni struggle is just and so will succeed in exposing $hell, demanding justice and adequate compensation. Where there is a crime there is remedy, and where there is law there should be justice. All Ogoni seek is justice and not an extraneous wealth we do not deserve.
Re Motiva Port Arthur, I hope people don’t believe the propaganda that the CEP project created 300 permanent jobs. It did create some new jobs, not close to 300. It also doesn’t account for the many jobs that were lost. The only way this project pays off is if Port Arthur brings on the additional capacity with the same basic fixed costs that the facility had prior to the project. There are 2 jobs that the project does need to eliminate, Tom Purves and Jeff Funkhouser. That may help pay for some of the overage of the project costs. I’m sure we will never hear the true costs of the project. Clearly over $12B.
As regular visitors will be aware, it is not our practice to censor postings on this blog. Unfortunately we have received a posting from “Esther” which we will not publish because it contains threats of violence.
To “Ben Ikari” – I think I understand your rant, however, as ever with Nigerians the attempt is to blame everyone else but themselves. The approach is almost always of attacking the foreign companies and at the same time attempt to extract as much money as possible from them via the courts. The Ogoni’s often appear to be no different in this respect. The undeniable problem with the Ogoni’s AND other tribes in the Delta region is YOUR OWN GOVERNMENT. They have denied you a proper education, decent housing, basic medical care etc. etc. Above all they have taken billions of US$ out of the country that should have been invested in the place. Foreign companies (particularly Shell) have invested and given billions of US$ into the Delta region – no doubt some of that has also been siphoned off by corrupt Nigerian officials. I have said most of these points before to you and others, it seems like we’ll have to agree to disagree. I do agree that the killing of Saro-Wiwa was an awful and unacceptable crime. The perpetrator of this however was your very own Sani Abacha not Shell. Again it’s a case of blame everyone else rather than your own ex-dictator.
To Donovan – I hardly think my comments are defamatory, more like honest. I have to say I liked your response of “sometimes totally unfounded” – so sometimes I am right then Some of your articles with the added tabloid headers clearly show you do not always want to merely challenge/object to Shell’s activities but would rather attack them at every opportunity for every alleged misdemeanour. Shell does a great deal of excellent community work around the world, particularly in places like Nigeria, but like every organization run by human beings is prone to mistakes and errors. As to me using a pseudonym this is what any website with a blog element should expect, including yourself, so tough-luck with that. I have to say however that in this respect well done to you for posting comments. REPLY BY JOHN: The truth is that you don’t always get it right and neither do I. This is the reason why despite the bluster on both sides, I have always appreciated you putting time into offering criticism and balance. The same applies to USCitizen. Your views, particularly on Shell in Nigeria, are strikingly similar to a person who posted here for many years under the name of MUSAINT before declaring he would no longer visit the site because he objected to the focus on Shell’s connection with the Nazis. COMMENT BY “OUTSPOKEN” (A FORMER SHELL EMPLOYEE): Hey London Lad:
You need to read your articles more carefully. There is nothing the royaldutchshellplc.com article about William Hague that is not already in the public domain. And my goodness, but you truly have a mean streak in you. Where do you find the time and emotional energy for all of this? Me thinks you need to get some sort of private life. Have you considered consulting a ‘pshrink’ about your irrational anger toward someone you have never met? Maybe an anger management course is in order here. Might help you a great deal. However, I think you don’t really exist and are simply a fake spokesperson for RDS’s propoganda organ.
Have a Nice Day.
Mr “londonlad,are you really a londonlad? Candidly, is this your real name? If no, why can’t you unmask? If yes, proof by an affidavit. Meanwhile, Donovan is right to state that William Hague is trying to help $hell, which looks like your precursor get away with murder. The rogue and deadly company will not escape justice even after the US Supreme Court. If in doubt or think Donovan is wrong and should or could be sued, start by presenting an alternative fact to wit Hague is innocent and not a former $hell’s employee. How I wish you were Ogoni to see and feel how our shoes hurt, and the many lifeless bodies Ogoni has dug to mother earth due $hell’s recklessness and racism. You are not Ogoni and will not be, so will not understand despite the fact that the same blood that run through oppressed Ogonis run through you and your people, wherever you may come from. Ogoni deaths orchestrated by $hell and now backed by the British government is beyond politics and so stop attempting politics with it. You will not be happy watching your people and their environment die because of the recklessness of Ogoni, if there was any.
Hope you get sued Donovan for that stupid and outrageous add on comment about William Hague trying to help Shell get away with murder. Once again it shows you to be someone who has a severe chip on your shoulder over Shell allegedly screwing you in the past. Next move for you is the nut house I think!! REPLY BY JOHN DONOVAN: That’s the difference between me and you. I make a statement in my name and the parties at whom my statement is directed are free to sue me for libel if they contend that what I have stated is untrue. You make frequent defamatory comments about me, sometimes totally unfounded as per your previous posting, but always hide behind an alias so that you cannot be held responsible. And when you are dead wrong, as you were last time, you don’t even have the grace to apologize. The Sunday Times did not mention that William Hague is a former employee of Shell. I believe that information is salient. I have no fear whatsoever of being sued for libel by Hague or Shell. The UK and Dutch governments have gone to a lot of trouble in the hope of preventing these matters (Shell’s crimes in Nigeria) being aired in open court, so the prospect of Shell or Hague taking any action that would result in that actually happening is ZERO.
This is amazing. This story is getting exactly zero coverage in the mainstream press of the United States. While I am not exactly surprised it is just one more incidence of keeping Americans ignorant of the true nature of the oil world. Thanks for your efforts to inform and educate. All the best. (ASSUME THIS COMMENT BY SAMOU RELATES TO THE SHELL TOX STORY)
Executive pay. Dear Anon, I happen to have been around when Linda Cook was the token woman in Shell. Let me tell you one more time: she did NOT make any clever decisions. She behaved like a czarina. Her meetings were something to be seen, she had more testosterone and hate in herself than most other male directors. Her presentations where completely pre-cooked. Never seen so many yellow stickers on the plastic viewgraphs. She did all the management things that she read in a management book: walking up and down in front of the audience. Smiling all the time. Not wanting to be interrupted with questions since this would disturb the flow. And every question was answered with ‘ that is a very good question but unfortunately I cannot answer it now since I did not read the plan (or some other lame excuse). And when she got stuck, up popped Lew Watts or another slave of hers and answered it eloquently. And then the time was up and she had to leave. Busy, busy, busy. I would not be surprised if she shagged Phil Watts, they were never more than a few meters apart and adored each other.
I asked many americans who knew her career in the US what was so special. There has been zero response, they simply did not know. She did make a promise (which was broken of course) that exploration costs would remain low forever and EP would grow forever. This is what Phil Watts (sorry, SIR Philip) wanted to hear.
She was simply a social climber, making full use of the fact that Shell wanted some token women. All clever work was done by others, she just did not have the brain to do it. And nice projects you mention, both came in 4-6x the projected cost and are only saved by the high oilprice…..
Good riddance of her, bonus for the guys who decided she had to go.
Marvin Odum has consistently had one of the worst safety records in Shell. How does he continue to get by ? Firing your Health, Safety and Environment Managers does not fix the safety culture, nor does “making a scene” when folks do not use handrails on the way to the cafeteria. Good safety practices should be followed EVERYWHERE !
One year on and I wonder how much longer Marvin will wait for his safety record to improve.
Will Denise follow Libby?
The oil companies are right to flare off gas – it’s very cheap to do so. Apparently because it’s cheap makes it right for them to right? A dictator was right to commit mass murder and plunder the economy because it was easy for him to? (I will resist all temptations to name you appropriately for making such a nonsensical argument). I find your line of reasoning absurd: The people of the Niger delta asked for it by welcoming Alamaesigha in their number? What has that got to do with anything? I agree that the people of the Niger Delta are responsible mostly for what is going on now. The major misfortune of the Niger Delta is the failure of its present leaders and those of it’s recent past. Here are some things to consider: They were conveniently ignored during the decades of Scholarships Abroad from FG (believe me, there were a multitude of school cert holders who were willing but who had to make do with little jobs in Lagos). The culture of Looking out for your tribal brother didn’t help the idea of federalism. What I am trying to say is that the level of illiteracy in the Niger delta hasn’t been entirely without cause. Try to think Here is really the question I want to ask: Is it the responsibility of the Niger Delta citizens to negotiate with oil companies issues about pollution, environmental regulations? Does the government not owe that duty of care? Isn’t it the government’s duty to insist on cleaner technology? If the Niger delta is expected to take care of itself in this sense, shouldn’t it as well be self governing? I know fully well that The Federal Government will rather have the oil companies pay the fat penalty for not meeting up to standard, which also is cheaper for the company which would rather not invest in costly cleaner technology. Lastly: There are no affirmation actions or free rides to Federal universities for people of the Niger delta. No such things exist. Scholarships are being claimed and used. And the universities there are flooded with students, as badly maintained as they may be.I wish we had time for facts, numbers, so we are more empirical instead of all the unnecessary emotion. I am not denying the senselessness of the Niger delta politician (thieves all of them). Or that illiteracy is rife and poverty too. Nice breeding ground for crime, gangs etc. Niger delta people need to get off their lazy asses and stop crying victim. Yar’adua needs to know what he is doing. And you need to try to understand first. We all the need to ask the right questions before we can get right answers. Else we all end up with wayward results. Plus Ken Saro-Wiwa was something of a literary giant and intellectual. Many young people of the Niger Delta will join that list. You watch and see.
i want to thank everyone of you who has been iettresend in this our struggle with shell.i want to say it here that we are not only demanding these that is already on the news but i want to personally see that shell nigeria and international is brought to an international court to bring shell to justice and make them pay for the destruction of our ecosystem.gas flaring,Oil spills and every other environment pollution due to their oil exploration and exploitation we need help and all the links to take shell to court especial a court in the USA..as shell has been made to pay the ogonis so i did want shell to pay us .your support and links will help us to take shell to court in a foreign..shell dont obey court rulings in nigeria this is why we desire to have them prosecuted in a court in the US if you are willing to help us in this please feel free to contact me.PASTOR RANAMI AFAGHA.EMAIL:[email protected]
It is totally uelvbienable that a world highly respected organisation such as the UNEP could collude with Shell and the Nigerian government to condemn the natural owners of the resources that has sustained the country for over 50 years. I think that Mr Mike Cowing should re-examine his position rather than planning to take more money from Shell and the Nigerian government to do the remediation work. The UNEP claim with destroy stakeholder trust instead of building good relationship with the communities that has been persecuted for their resources. The Ogoni people are calling on the international community and all people of goodwill to come to their aid to stop their being stigmatised as polluters of their own environment. Oil operation started in the Ogoni area in about 1956 and the campaign that Mr Ken Saro-Wiwa wages against oil pollution could not have been caused by Ogoni people. the so-called oil bunkering started only about 5 years ago and every investigation carried out by Ogonis and the authorities have revealed that these bunkerings are supported by the same cabal who have always being in-charge of spending or mis-managing the national resources.
I doubt the letter is genuine. The excerpts that were published makes it sound as though it was written by an activist group. Shell employs thousands of people in Nigeria, and it is unlikely that the only people who know the truths as to what Shell is doing in Nigeria are a few activist groups, Shell’s brutal management elite, and nobody else.
So the title of this somewhat misleading article (“Shell admits funding Niger Delta warlords”) was NOT made by you but by Ben Amunwa? REPLY BY JOHN: The headline came with the article. It was not made by me. Just click on “SOURCE”.
“Shell admits funding Niger Delta warlords” – yet again this is tabloid titillation Donovan and not what Sunmonu said!! All he states (in your reprinted article) is prefaced by “could have”. Yet again an expansion of the facts to suit the objective of this website. As an add on Donovan, I am sure you (and probably a large percentage of the UK population) have inadvertently contributed in some way to causes that are illegal, dodgy or unliked. By using the word “could have” the person is being honest and realistic. Your reporting at times with these tabloid add-ons is not honest. REPLY BY JOHN: You see to be getting over-excited again. I am not the author of the article in question. I have not changed a single word of what the author stated. I have not added a single word to the article. Only a link to a related article. The author is careful in what he has stated and provided links to a video containing what he describes as an “admission”. Visitors are able to watch the video and draw their own conclusions.
On the IT reorganisation of 2004. It would be nice to hear from some insider whether the huge IT reorganisation (or was it change for the sake of change) in 2004 and beyond has achieved what it set out to do and if not, what lessons were learned? I have the suspicion that it all turned out much more costly and did not achieve its objectives. It did create a lot of pain with the IT staff involved and the benefits for the business were not too clear. I seem to remember there was a lot of management speak and the leading lights of that day presumably have looked after themselves and moved on, leaving a mess behind.
Rumour has it that Shell Canada is planning to sell Retail unit
Nice John, just another attack – you stick your neck out the way you do and people will respond. Do you see us running a hate Donovan website ??- we certainly have enough reason and material too, but we do not. Enjoy your hatefull life, I can not imagine letting unjustified hate run my life. REPLY BY JOHN: Glad to see that you are still paying attention. If you set up a Hate Donovan website will it be presented in your own name, so that you take legal responsibly for what you publish, as I do, or will you still hide behind an alias? For the record, I don’t hate anyone or any company. I am simply campaigning for Royal Dutch Shell executives to act at all times in accordance with Shell General Business Principles which include the claimed core principles of honesty, integrity, openness and respect for people in all of Shell’s dealings. This is surely not an unreasonable ambition given that the principles were devised by Shell, are promoted by Shell and are supposedly current and binding on all Shell operations everywhere. In other words, we are only asking Shell executives to do what they already claim to be doing. The SGBP is being used as a PR tool to promote undeserved confidence in the scruples and honesty of Shell senior management. For example, the SGBP featured in the Form 20F Declarations filed with the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission thereby generating confidence in the proven reserves volumes which had been inflated i.e. were false.
While Shell execs continue to make pledges of ethical trading which they flout, we will continue our humble efforts to expose their hypocrisy.
Hmmm. Seems like Donovan has accepted defeat and now doesn’t want me to make any further comments on this biased site. Heh ho his loss. REPLY BY JOHN: Visitors can read my responses to your recent postings and decide for themselves if I have conceded defeat as you claim. I have told you before that your postings are welcome because they provide some balance. The same applies to USCitizen, the other unofficial spokesperson for Shell. If you choose to make a personal attack on me, then I will point out that it is a cowardly act on your part when hiding behind an alias. Something I have never done. You said that I had tried to stick the murder of Neil Heywood onto Shell. That allegation was completely false and you are self-evidently not enough of a gentleman to withdraw the allegation. As to this site being biased, it certainly is towards pressing Shell management to act at all times in accordance with Shell’s own Statement of General Principles, pledging honesty, integrity, transparency ect in all of Shell’s dealings. If Shell management had done so, it would not have been responsible for so many scandals, including the reserves securities fraud when Shell was found guilty of market abuse and received massive fines from the US Securities & Exchange Commission and the UK Financial Services Authority.
Not hysterical or a troll just sometimes fed up with the tabloid “reporting” you make with innuendos, titilation and insertions with the word “Shell” highlighted to try and make the reader believe Shell are full-on involved. Why do people that disagree with such reporting have to be trolls? Seems that most of the hysteria on this site is generated by its owner!! REPLY BY JOHN: You make personal comments about me hiding behind an alias. Comments that you do not have the courage to make under your real name. With regards to this particular story involving corruption, I have never accused Shell of being implicated in the murder of Neil Heywood. I have had an acrimonious relationship with Shell for nearly two decades and have seen the dark side of the company. I do not believe that the current (or any recent) Shell management would have anything to do with murder. Shell does however have a track record of getting involved in corruption in host countries e.g. paying a $48m fine for corruption in Nigeria. Also sponsorship of sex, drugs, gifts fueled corruption of USA regulatory authority employees. It has a track record of close association with Hakluyt, the sometime employer of Neil Heywood. It has used Hakluyt for undercover operations on an International basis. Shell is still a client of Hakluyt. Shell’s global head of security returned to Hakluyt not long ago. Shell also has a track record of infiltrating agents into the governments of host countries e.g. Nigeria. Shell has done business with the China National Petroleum Corporation, which until this scandal broke, was under the control/influence of the faction mired in the corruption scandal. It seems likely therefore that it has done business with the faction accused of corruption. It does seem reasonable, given Shell’s track record of getting involved in intrigue and corruption in host counties to put the questions I have to Shell about any possible connection with the unfolding events in China. Remember Shell preaches openness, but for some reason is tight-lipped on this subject. Why? One final comment to LondonLad. You knew full-well that your comments would generate further focus on this “tabloid” story. My guess is that Shell management would prefer for you to refrain from comment on this subject.
Why don’t you start writing a new series for the X-Files for TV Donovan? With your ability at trying to stick all sorts of crime on Shell (e.g. the murder in China of Neil Heywood) fiction seems just right for you!! REPLY BY JOHN: LondonLad, you seem to be turning into a hysterical troll, making nasty comments and an outright false allegation all directed at me personally while hiding behind an alias. Please point out where I have alleged that Shell is implicated in the apparent murder of Neil Heywood? I put legitimate questions to Shell based on the background facts, as stated in the articles I published. If Shell had replied to my first email giving a categorical denial of any connection with Heywood/Hakluyt in relation to Shell’s activities/plans in China, that would have been an immediate end to the matter as far as I am concerned. I have no idea why Shell has treated this as a taboo subject instead of responding as it has many times in the past and did so on two other matters I raised in correspondence at about the same time, replying on one occasion when no response had been requested. One final important point: Shell’s name had already been brought into this matter by the news media before I published my first article.
motivawatcher: You’re absolutely right, the Motiva guys and gals that got the big fat bonuses were the happy bunch, especially those who were secretly approached by their manager and asked would they accept a severance package if one was offered before it officially came out. The severance program was not suppose to be a volunteer program, but some managers conveniently rated some people low or redundant so they could receive a severance package. This information was leaked out by several of the folks that received a severance package.
oldwhitemale: and what about all the Motiva guys and gals that got big fat bonuses?? Seem to be a happy bunch but nobody mentions that.
sure will be interesting to see how far a lawsuit against Shell for age discrimination goes! i say: not gonna happen.
Motivawatcher, I recently read on this website about the employee at Motiva Port Arthur who has a pending lawsuit against Motiva Port Arthur for age discrimination. I
Motiva staff (at least some) seem to a bunch of whingers. Get a life and do some decent work for a change.
Actually spoke to this person last week about the lawsuit. Motiva tried to get it thrown out but they were not that lucky. A trial date has been set by the court for sometimes at the end of the year, and he is not backing down. From what he was telling me the company does not have a leg to stand on. Joey D did so many crooked things that I would not be surprised if more lawsuits start appearing.
To Outsider: these eco-activists are not the public opinion, they try to influence the public opinion to their side. That is exactly what happened with Brent Spar – if Greenpeace would have gotten their facts right and understood upfront that the proposed solution was the best one for the environment overall, they would not have created a fuss and Shell would not have been in the horrible situation they were in… The eco-activists, but also all other types of such movements (anti-globalists etc.) sell 1 product – fear & distrust. And if a couple of truths have to be killed to achieve this, then that is “just” collateral damage. I do not say that Shell or any other large corporation is better than this, but what insults my brain is that these eco-warriors claim the moral high ground while in reality they are at best just the same as the corporations…
I agree that Carol Pierson needs to check her facts – for an environmentalist she seems remarkably ill informed. However, even if the environmental activists may not have all of their facts 100% correct, they are no less guilty of spinning the news and holding politicians to ransom than Shell. Shell may have been right about Brent Spar from a purely technical/economic perspective, but they were horribly wrong in their assessment of the public’s reaction to the idea of simply dumping the platform in mid Atlantic. The environmentalists knew exactly what they were doing, and in contrast to Shell were completely in tune with public sentiment.
This latest article from Carol Pierson again clearly exposes how the treehugging community does not base its actions on facts nor does the effort to get a good understanding of them first… Some examples: 1) there are no penguins in the Artic, they only live on/close to Antarctica. 2) there was no Shell CEO named James Smith – if I recall correct there was someone with that name in Shell holding the position of UK Countrychair. 3). Shell is not suing anyone, as far as I understand they are asking the court for confirmation that due process was followed and that people/organisations that dispute have to come forward now and not at the last minute – of course the treehuggers are upset that they apparently are outsmarted and the legal system is used so they can’t abuse it… 4) reference is made to the Brent Spar case but nowhere is mentioned that Greenpeace in the end had to admit that the initial Shell-proposed solution was the best – technically and environmentally. but as was proven not from public opinion point of view.
I am not here to blindly defend Shell, although I work for the company in a technical position outside the USA. My post has nothing to do to defend whether or not Shell should be allowed to drill (I have my opinion on that one though), but to expose the sneaky way the treehugging community is waging their war (they call it relentless activism..). Even during my student days several years ago I got upset with this way of influencing the public opinion with lies/cheats/half-truths by the treehugging community. I was active in one for some years in my highschool time and I can tell that they are just a business as Shell is. They don’t do it for the betterment of all, as they claim constantly, but just to proof their existence and ability to keep themselves employed with salaries paid from the donations they get… Michael Crichton wrote a book about this “business” – he is not far from the truth how he portrays.
If anyone is counting, power outage #3 in the past few weeks happened again for the motiva port arthur facility. Tom, why aren’t you adressing this? or are you too busy with getting feed in to the new refinery so you can get off the clock? It’s a shame that we are starting this new refinery up with a flat tire. Hilton, are you counting how many times we are in the flare?
“You self-evidently decided against commenting and have only done so now after being cornered. If you have done nothing wrong, why not reveal your identity so that your admitted track record of accepting valuable gifts from vendors can be investigated?”
I had not seen it, correct. I am flattered that you used my comments. I did not comment because there is nothing to comment on, my orginal posts speak for themeselves. Do not have any energy to debate with someone who does not listen and use rational thoughts. You are beyond hope with your blind bias.
PS – you just do not understand executive compenesation so, enough there, you are wrong, but can not see it. Later , done with this conversation #losingbattle
REPLY BY JOHN: As I said in the article, I believe you are sincere in your views about Shell Motiva managers accepting gifts from vendors. You do not, as I do, consider it to be a slippery slope. On the other subject, you are right in saying that I do not understand executive compensation. It is a mystery to me how some execs get away with colossal sums e.g. the reported $400 MILLION package for Lee Raymond on his retirement from ExxonMobil. He was not even a founder of a company, just an grotesquely overpaid employee.
Londonlad, Ogonis will not get justice in Nigeria or any other part of Africa. In short, such law as the ATS isn’t anywhere in Africa. In Nigeria, $hell controls everything that has to do with its interests. It will use its fiat to stop the case as it’s tried many times in USA. The govt is a conspirator, so will not allow the case proceed. So what’s wrong with using the law provided in USA, which foresaw such crimes as $hell’s? Also, be informed that Ogonis didn’t even know they’re going to sue $hell when they (we) arrived USA. When the ATS presented itself ten years ago (2002)we applied it. American lawyers helped and still helping us. Importantly, where there’s law there’s justice, so we are seeking it. Greed, as synonymous with the Nigerian state and $hell isn’t the foundation of our suit. Holding $hell accountable so corporation will change the way they do business in the so-called Third World, is the reason we’re in court. Yes, we didn’t sue $hell because we want money. Rather what we want and will always ask for is justice. Note also that Ogonis are far different from other Nigerians. On the one hand Ogonis are distinct in language,culture, landmass and territory. On another hand, we don’t have the luxury to extract or benefit from our oil and gas. So corruption, which isn’t synonymous with one group alone, but all peoples isn’t prevalent in Ogoni society. Also, Ogoni don’t have a state nor had the position of governor of Rivers State, where we are located (as our national location) not by treaty but by British colonial imposition because we’re forced into the Nigerian contraption. The few Ogoni politicians may have tasted corruption, but not without National/state government, party approval. In short, they’re caught up in the corrupt Nigeria system. Our fate in America is, however, different from other Nigerians, as Ogoni is, of course, different from other Nigerians.
Interested to read that Greenpeace (they who overestimated the Brent Spar oil volumes!!) have boarded a Shell contracted icebreaker in Helsinki. Wonder how they got there
Other $5.27 mil
Stock Gains NA
Total Compensation $9.735 mil
Good lord John, how can you compare apples and oranges so badly. This does not include his long term stock options; Which Peters did.
Rex W Tillerson Ownership Of ExxonMobil
Stock Owned (% Of Co) 0.03%
Stock Owned $129.1 mil This his total Stock ownership granted over several years. I did not see what each years breakdown was, but as you can see this is huge!! By the way it has gone up $70mm in two years, compare that!
Ps – Vosers base pay with bonuses and other compensation, not the long term stock grants comparable to Tillersons was 7.0 mm. Again – Apples to Apples is the Key john.
Ps – I just ignored your other posts – tickled pink that you exposed your self trying to compare my posts to taking bribes, any sane person will read those and laugh at you!!
REPLY BY JOHN: The total compensation of Tillerson in 2011 was $9.73 mil. The total compensation of Voser in 2011 was $16.3 mil. Straight-forward comparison. With regards to corruption at Shell/Motiva, I provided links so that readers could see for themselves your defence of the vendor sponsored freebies/bribes and draw their own conclusions. Guessed that you had read the article, as you now confirm. You self-evidently decided against commenting and have only done so now after being cornered. If you have done nothing wrong, why not reveal your identity so that your admitted track record of accepting valuable gifts from vendors can be investigated?
Good lord folks – at least do some homework, what was the Exxon CEO paid, have a clue? Over 2.5 times what the Shell CEO was paid, and historically has been 5-8 times what the Shell CEO is paid. Is Exxon 2.5 times or 5-8 times bigger than Shell. I thought not. Do not hurt your brains coming up with the your reply. Shell CEO pay is not the one you want to use for excess complaints, many many worse examples out there. What do you think they should be paid wise ones?? RELY BY JOHN: Voser received substantially more for the last year ($15m package approx) than Rex Tillerson at $9.73m . Surprised we did not receive any comment from you in regard to the article: “Alleged bribery and corruption at Shell Motiva“?
Nothing to attack Shell with so we now have to revrt to articles from 11 years ago!! Jeez, even the tabloids seldom stoop to these sort of levels of “jounalism”. REPLY BY JOHN: The Reuters article published yesterday referred to the spying by Hakluyt on behalf of Shell and BP, which was the subject of The Sunday Times article. Flattered of course to be equated with journalism when we are mere bloggers.
There was an interesting article and a link to documents describing a race discrimination lawsuit by a Motiva Norco operator a couple of weeks ago on this site. I can’t seem to find it anymore. It stated that an operator was terminated for breaking one of the life saving rules at the Motiva Norco Coker Unit. He was terminated by his supervisor Joey D. It went on to say that two black operators had broken the same life saving rules some time later and were not terminated by Joey D. The operator that was terminated was a white male. I guarantee that this will never make it to trial. They will settle out of court with a gag order. REPLY BY JOHN: Have now found the article you are seeking: Motiva refinery worker files discrimination lawsuit
With Malcolm B retiring, Andy B coming..lets hope there is good changes coming.
By the way , What is there to handover?
To Malcolm- Happy Retirement!! write a book- see who are your friends after you retire. Save the trips , let the business do their work.
Cronies of Malcolmn – Watch out – you are next.
To Andy- show us you mean real business, you are not another Fade. Clean up HR and IT, reorganise new businesses and exploration..there is so much wastes and fuzzy accountability.
Well Ben, some very fine words indeed. However, I think you have missed my point. The US are international bully boys and their legal system is there to make money as much as it is to attempt justice
Londonlad, Great name indeed! Ok. If $hell had committed the egregious crimes it committed in collaboration with Nigerian govt (against Ogonis)in your country (where ever it is), would you prefer the company go unpunished? If yes, good for you, but the law of crime, especially when the culprit is visible and unrepentant like $hell doesn’t apply if in a yes case as could be your position. If no, then you’d be speaking to why Ogonis are using this American law that helped to reduce the speed with which such crimes occurs. Keeping the law will checkmate greedy and deadly corps such as $hell.
As you can see, another power outage at Motiva Port Arthur. Going to really be interesting to watch this new albatross come up on rates and then have this 100 year old power supply keep shutting it down. Tom, why didn’t you fix the electrical system when you had the opportunity? Too busy counting your stock options I guess. Let Jeff do that for you and try to make a difference in your final days.
About time the American legal system did
With Brinded now gone, might CIO Alan Matula now come under scrutiny ? The parallels are there: years of over-promise/under-delivery, aggressive suppression of bad news, and the intimidation of critics through behaviour bordering on the psychopathic. There’s little doubt that the cost of Matula’s vanity projects is playing a significant role on the demise of Downstream, where businesses like Retail make margin on cans of Coke. It’s sad to see DS businesses being divested, but at least one can share their sense of relief as they leave Shell and start divesting themselves of all this junk.
The article re Brinded and Nigeria on “why Shell can’t build a refinery in Nigeria” is comical. Though the justification is correct, the reality is Shell can’t build a refinery anywhere. Just look at our own Port Arthur project. Under Tom Purves’s leadership, this ill fated concept got hatched. Everyone was happy in the early days, taking Port Arthur back to the glory days. Alas, the cit leaders didn’t plan on Tom and the project team bringing global help in here via Bechtel to do the work and therefore not impact the locals nearly as much as what had been advertised. Now, some 2 years late on the commitment for start-up and a price tag that will ultimately grow to $14B, Shell might just as well say ” Forget Nigeria…we can’t build a refinery anywhere. ” Tom’s legacy goes down the toilet with this project. He would do well to retire and at least give our team half a chance to run it well.
By the way, for any that are watching…. Tom’s #2 boy, Forrest Lauher, aka Forrest Liar, resigned from Shell as Botts sent the anticipated note out yesterday. Forrest was in over his head from day 1 on this project, given to him by none other than Tom Purves. He lost control of the project and got removed back in 2009. Should have been fired. Instead he got saved and was placed in our plant manager seat. Again, couldn’t handle the top job and they pulled him last year. We can only wait for the notice on Tom’s #1 boy Funkhater and then ultimately Tom himself. 2012 is starting to be a great year!
John, the EU oil sanctions don’t take effect until July, so I guess that Shell are in full compliance with the letter, if not the spirit, of the sanctions. And Shell will no doubt continue to buy as much oil as they can until the very last minute… REPLY BY JOHN: The US embargo of Iranian oil announced in December will come into effect on 28 June. It may not be wise of Shell to upset President Obama by continuing to buy Iranian crude in the meantime bearing in mind Shell’s plans to drill in the Arctic Ocean. Iran is a very hot topic with Obama this weekend. Shell would be well advised to also bear in mind that given the overall circumstances, many will view its conduct as immoral. Shell is well aware of how bad it looks, hence its furtive conduct.
The quote from a named spokesman for Shell PR (quoted here, but also on Bloomberg and many other sites) that the directors had
Oh dear oh dear. Now who are
Good Riddance to Bully Boy Brinded! The biggest mierenneuker imaginable. A very nasty man, arrogant, conceited and a downright bully. Shell will do well without him. Stay off Network rail trains with Brinded on the Board!
It appears that Voser finally got fed up with Mr Overpromise/Underdelivery. Despite all the nice words about him, he is clearly kicked out. Plenty of sycophants around him are now fearing for their jobs and positioning themselves whom to kow-tow now.
This bearded fellow wasted his great brain on very small details and he was unable to delegate. I think his only real good project was the SLIM project. This was many moons ago and launched him to the top jobs. And there he failed as frequently and eloquently pointed out on the Donovan site.
Big brain, a micromanager on par with the pointy haired boss in Dilbert, a vicious and vindictive attitude to those that were of no use to him or that might talk back.
In summary: Good riddance and now the legal system of Scotland can go after him. But I doubt they will.