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Why Shell Oil is staying in the U.S. Climate Action Partnership

So why has Shell Oil Co. remained an active member of this important organization?

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The View From Big Oil

THE WALL STREET JOURNAL

MARCH 8, 2010

Peter Voser of Royal Dutch Shell talks about the kind of energy legislation he’d like to see

These days, giant oil companies find themselves trying to balance two big pressures on their business. Governments are trying to slash carbon emissions—but the world’s thirst for oil is growing by leaps and bounds. Peter Voser, chief executive officer of Royal Dutch Shell PLC, is navigating the situation by joining a business-backed effort to push for global-warming laws, and making sure Shell has a strong exposure to natural gas and alternative fuels.

Mr. Voser sat down with The Wall Street Journal’s Alan Murray and Kimberley Strassel to talk about the future of climate-change legislation, the company’s push beyond oil, the prospects for electric vehicles and more.

Here are edited excerpts of their discussion.

Chief Executive of Royal Dutch Shell, Peter Voser talks about what kind of a future oil based energy can have in an environmentally conscious world.

ALAN MURRAY: I’d like to start by asking you about U.S. CAP [the U.S. Climate Action Partnership], the business effort to push for global-warming legislation. You are the last oil company there. Many of the other majors never joined to begin with. BP joined and then pulled out because it didn’t like the direction that it was going in. Why is Shell alone among the oil companies in continuing to push for this?

PETER VOSER: We have a belief that we need a market-based energy legislation in this country. And by the way, in all the other countries as well. We feel that we can do more by being inside U.S. CAP together with the other stakeholders represented there in order to actually achieve the right outcome.

KIMBERLEY STRASSEL: What kind of bill could you want or expect that would actually be good for your industry?

MR. VOSER: What we want is energy legislation that drives supply security in this country, which drives the country to lower fuel emissions, which generates new jobs but also preserves old jobs.

To then go further down, we are a keen proponent of market-based energy legislation. We will quite clearly look out for natural-gas developments, which we see as a long-term source of energy that has a lot of positives.

And in general, I think our industry is facing an interesting challenge that the demand in the world will double, but we have to provide that energy at a much lower cost to the environment. This will drive technology developments, innovation developments, etc., and that’s normally where our industry has always been in a leading position. And that’s what we want to see in the legislation so that we have certainty on the carbon price, certainty on, let’s say, legislation that will stay for a while so that we can operate.

MS. STRASSEL: What odds do you give passage of a cap-and-trade bill this year?

MR. VOSER: I’m still hopeful that we get something passed. I know the timing will be longer than what we expected maybe 12 months ago, but we will do our part in order to make sure that we get something that the industry and the country can take forward. But I think we are in for a longer period before we get something.

New in the Pipeline

MR. MURRAY: We talk about Shell as an oil company, but you’re very close to becoming a predominantly natural-gas company, aren’t you?

MR. VOSER: That’s absolutely correct. Shell started quite a while back, actually, to put a lot of emphasis on gas. And by 2012, we will have more gas production world-wide than we have oil.

So this has been a journey of 20, 30 years that we have used our technology and innovation in order to drive the gas development on a world-wide basis because, let’s face it, it has 50%, 70% less CO2 than coal, for example, and that’s exactly where we see the long-term benefit.

MR. MURRAY: And in your view, is that the big answer to our environmental problems for the next 50-plus years?

MR. VOSER: I don’t think there is one answer.

On a global perspective, the energy demand will double—this is pretty much proved now—by 2050. So we will need most of the energy forms that we know today.

MR. MURRAY: What percentage of your capital spending goes to renewable energy sources, roughly?

MR. VOSER: It is not the capital intensity that drives renewable energies and alternative energies. It’s what you spend in technologies and in innovation. Roughly 25% of our budget at this stage goes into what we call alternative energies from an R&D point of view.

MR. MURRAY: And of the 25% of your R&D budget that you spend on renewables, what in that portfolio do you personally think is the most promising?

MR. VOSER: We are focusing a lot on biofuels at this stage. We just announced a few weeks ago a big joint venture in Brazil where we are bringing our first- and second-generation biofuels technologies together with Cosan, a sugar ethanol producer there, in order to speed up the second-generation capabilities because we need to speed up that process. So biofuels is one.

We are in wind. We have gone out of solar. We tried both silicon and thin-film solar, but we can’t see that as being something that we can scale up globally and get the economies of scale. So we leave that. It’s a technology that will be developed, no doubt, but we leave that to a smaller, medium-sized players.

Driving Ahead

MR. MURRAY: For your oil business, transportation is obviously a key to the future. How long do you think it will take for electric cars to become a significant part of the vehicle fleet?

MR. VOSER: We think between now and 2050 we will go from one billion cars to two billion cars world-wide. So it’s quite a growth there. We think by 2050 that roughly 40% of those two billion cars will be electric cars.

But there is a but to this. Which means in the meantime we will need all [types of environmentally friendly cars]. So we will need low-carbon-fuels cars, more-efficient engines. We will need the hybrids. There will be more electrical cars coming in. There will be fuel cells, there will be hydrogen. So I think there will be room and space to develop all of them.

Looking to the Market

MS. STRASSEL: You talked about how you wanted legislation here in the U.S. to help with the certainty. But as a global company you already operate in regions that do have climate restrictions. How has that affected your business?

MR. VOSER: I would like to have a market-based system that actually works on the global environment. Because the world, the trade flow today, is a global trade flow, so you cannot cut between frontiers, boundaries, countries, etc.

So while I think it is OK to start country or regionally, we need governments working together, and that’s where I think Copenhagen would have been a good way to achieve a global agreement. We didn’t get it. I’m not too disappointed because I think this is a journey. We will need more time.

The politicians or the governments also have to learn to bring some reality into the discussion from time to time. So we get biofuels legislation, for example, and two years later they change because they realize technically it’s not possible. I think that’s where governments, companies, NGOs can work together to set the right frames.

MS. STRASSEL: Some people say instead of all the negotiations and the offsets and the carbon trading, just put a carbon tax, in particular a gas tax, and see where that goes.

MR. VOSER: I would say you need a market-based system where you can actually give the right incentives for those industries that are affected to make sure that they can lower the CO2 over time and they can lower the costs to achieve that over time. You need an incentive there, and I just struggle to see that a tax is an incentive.

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Shell’s Voser: Climate Bill ‘Needs More Time’

THE WALL STREET JOURNAL

March 4, 2010, 12:55 PM ET

By Jim Carlton and Neal Lipschultz

Despite recent defections of two other oil majors, Royal Dutch Shell PLC has opted to stay in an influential lobbying group that has focused on shaping climate-change legislation, Chief Executive Officer Peter Voser said.

Mr. Voser, speaking Thursday at the Wall Street Journal’s ECO:nomics conference in Santa Barbara, Calif., was asked why Shell remained in the three-year-old U.S. Climate Action Partnership (USCAP) after two of its peers, BP PLC and ConocoPhillips, pulled out last month. The partnership is a broad business-environmental coalition that had been instrumental in building support in Washington for capping emissions of greenhouse gases, and the defections came amid growing debate over climate change.

“We feel we can actually do more being inside USCAP to achieve the right outcome,” Mr. Voser said.

But Mr. Voser agreed with a growing number of skeptics who don’t believe a climate change bill will be passed on Capital Hill this year. Asked how much money he would put betting on such an outcome, the CEO smiled wanly and said: “I think I can spend my money somewhere else.” Earlier at the conference, Michael Morris, chairman, president and CEO of utility giant American Electric Power, had pegged the chances of a climate bill’s passage in 2010 as “less than 50%.”

“The timing will be longer than we expected, but we will do our part” in influencing the bill, Mr. Voser said. He added Shell favors a market-based system of controlling carbon emissions, and that “I would like to have a marketplace that works on a global scale.” Mr. Voser said he believed eventually there would be carbon legislation in the U.S. and many other parts of the world, despite the failure of the Copenhagen climate talks to achieve a consensus.

“I think this is a journey,” Mr. Voser said. “We need more time.”

When asked about the theory of “peak” oil in the world and whether that theory was now dead, Mr. Voser said “I think what is dead is cheap oil.”

You need more technology, innovation and will find oil further away from markets, Mr. Voser said. More will be spent to get oil and consumers will pay, both for oil and gas.

Mr. Voser also said oil price volatility is here to stay. More money is flowing into commodities and there are more players in the market.

Shell, meanwhile, has been moving to become more of a natural gas supplier and continues to invest in alternative energies like biofuels, he said. With global energy demand expected to double by 2050, Mr. Voser said the world will need many sources of fuel, including oil. He predicted electricity would be needed to power 40% of  the world’s automobile fleet by 2050, when he predicted it would double to two billion vehicles from one billion.

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Electric cars will get more popular -Shell CEO

REUTERS

By Poornima Gupta

SANTA BARBARA, Calif., March 4 (Reuters) – Royal Dutch Shell Plc (RDSa.L) expects electricity-powered vehicles to account for as much as 40 percent of the worldwide car market by 2050, Chief Executive Peter Voser said on Thursday.

Voser, speaking at The Wall Street Journal’s ECO:nomics conference in Santa Barbara, said technological improvements and increases in the cost of producing gasoline will give a boost to vehicles that run on alternative power.

“We think between now and 2050, we will go from 1 billion cars to 2 billion cars worldwide,” he said. “We think by 2050, roughly 40 percent of those 2 billion cars will be electric.”

In the next 40 years, the market needs low-carbon fuels, more efficient engines and hybrid vehicles, Voser said.

“I think there will be room and space to develop all of them,” he added.

Gasoline demand in developed countries like the United States has started to decline, partly as vehicles running on alternative fuels have entered the market. Companies such as Shell and BP (BP.L) are spending more money on those newer technologies, including for next-generation biofuels.

Automakers such as Ford Motor Co (F.N) and Nissan Motor Co Ltd (7201.T) are racing to launch electric cars, betting these will be the environmentally friendly transportation of the future. Small players like Tesla Motors already sell electric vehicles.

Voser said Shell was investing 25 percent of its research and development budget into renewables, including wind power and biofuels.

Shell has bet big on ethanol by striking a deal with Brazil’s Cosan (CSAN3.SA) to create a $21 billion a year ethanol joint venture.

The 50-50 joint venture, with almost 4,500 filling stations nationwide, will better position Cosan and Shell to compete with the two top players in the market, state oil giant Petrobras (PETR4.SA) and Ipiranga, a unit of Brazil’s Grupo Ultra (UGPA4.SA).

(Reporting by Poornima Gupta. Editing by Robert MacMillan)

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Peter Voser, CEO of Royal Dutch Shell

Eric Wesoff 03 04 10

“It’s fun to be an oil and gas CEO.”

Santa Barbara, CA — Peter Voser, CEO of Royal Dutch Shell, traveled a long way to speak at the Wall Street Journal ECO:nomics show this morning.  To give you an idea of the mindset of this particular audience, when polled on their expectations of future fuels, the winning response was nuclear, followed by natural gas.  Which is probably accurate but not the response you’d get from a bunch of enviros.

Shell expects global demand for energy to double by 2050.

Take note: Shell has transformed into a natural gas company.  Since 2004, the oil giant has invested more than $15 billion in natural gas in the United States.  By 2012, they will have more gas production than other fuels, in what he referred to as a twenty- to thirty-year journey.  This is a telling trend.  Wind and solar are nice, but natural gas is what is going to keep the world powered.

Voser reminded the crowd that natural gas produces 50 percent to 70 percent less CO2 than coal and that Shell has been somewhat surprised by the volume of natural gas deposits in the U.S.

In Voser’s words, “We need gas, conventional oil, and all other sources.”  He added that we need coal with carbon capture and sequestration and electromobility.

Shell knows about automobiles and the CEO quoted a few facts, the scariest of which was that his firm expects the number of automobiles to double to two billion by 2050.  He shocked the crowd with his forecast on electric vehicles — Voser said that 40 percent of automobiles will be electric by 2050.   But if EV electromobility is powered by coal, “then we are shooting ourselves in the foot.”

When it comes to renewables, Shell is focused on biofuels and trying to get second-generation biofuels to be economical as well as working on wind power.

Not solar, though.  They have gotten out of solar, both in silicon and CIGS thin film.  Shell can’t see solar as something that they can scale up.  They are “leaving it to smaller and medium size players.”

They are also doing work in tar sands — although he likes the term “oil sands” — which accounts for 2.5 percent of their production.  He thinks of it as a technology of last resort.  They’ve waited 40 years to go after this resource and expect that oil sands can have the footprint of traditional oil.

Voser said, “We need a CO2 price, not a tax,” although he is “skeptical” about energy legislation passing in the U.S. this year.  He added, “What we want is energy legislation which drives supply security and which generates new jobs but also preserves old jobs.”

Voser was in full agreement with T. Boone Pickens on focusing on the U.S.’ own reserves of natural gas “instead of buying oil from our enemies.”

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Shell decides to “stick to its knitting”

Posting by former Shell Executive Paddy Briggs on the article “Shell defends continued focus on fossil fuel-paper“: Mar 2nd, 2010 at 11:20 am

Tom Peters seminal book “In Scarce of Excellence” was first published in 1982 and in it there were eight themes for success in business one of was “Stick to the knitting” – i.e. stay with the business that you know. It has taken Shell quite a while to acknowledge Tom Peters’ truism – ironically as there is no major corporation which has made more of a mess of diversification than Shell. Along the way there have been failed ventures in Coal, Mining, Nuclear Power, Electricity Generation, Forestry, Wind Power, Solar, Convenience Stores, Home insulation…

Take the eye of the ball to try and manage things for which you have no corporate memory and no distinctive competences and not only will you not make these things work – but you will also damage the core businesses. But the really venal behaviour was when so much of Shell’s corporate advertising was focused on the essentially trivial “Renewables” sector. Now Shell has come clean (!) and essentially walked away from this segment entirely. Biofuel has always been an interesting sector and there is a long history of biofuel use in some of Shell’s markets – especially Brazil. But in the main Shell has at last decide to “stick to its knitting” – and about time to!

Paddy Briggs website:http://www.brandaware.co.uk/

Shell defends continued focus on fossil fuel-paper

Reuters UK

FRANKFURT, March 1 (Reuters) – Royal Dutch Shell Plc (RDSa.L) Chief Executive Peter Voser defended the oil giant’s retreat from some green technologies to concentrate on oil and gas production in an interview with the German daily Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung.

Shell withdrew from its solar business because it was not prepared to make the required investments, Voser told the newspaper adding that alternative fuel for cars remained problematic.

Voser said Shell was investing between 20 percent and 25 percent of its research budget into biofuels, an area where the company still sees potential.

But Voser cautioned that second generation biofuels will take years before they become viable arriving on markets, “late this decade…if at all.”

Biofuels, hybrid technology and electric cars still faced difficult technological hurdles, and may even cause other problems, the Swiss chief executive said.

“In the next 40 years, the number of vehicles in the world will double,” he said.

Demand, he said, will come mainly from Asia, where many polluting coal fired power stations generate electricity, there could be a step backward from an environmental standpoint.

Voser said he does not expect massive growth for oil demand in the short-term. “Because 2010 is a difficult year for the world economy, particularly the second half, when stimulus measures come to an end,” he said.

“We will probably also continue at a slow pace in to 2011. But in the medium term, global demand for oil and gas will rise.”

(Reporting by Edward Taylor, Editing by Leslie Gevirtz)

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Showa Shell to invest $1bn in solar panels

Financial Times

By Jonathan Soble in Tokyo
Published: March 1 2010 07:48

Showa Shell, the Japanese affiliate of Royal Dutch Shell, is placing a $1bn bet on the future of thin-film solar panels as it seeks to become the world’s largest producer of the renewable-energy technology.

Showa Shell said the “energy payback time” of its panels – the average time they take to produce more energy than it took to make them in the factory – is one year, compared with two to three years for silicon-based panels.

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BP drops out of US emissions lobby body

Financial Times

By Sheila McNulty in Houston and Anna Fifield in Washington

Published: February 16 2010 20:48

BP, Europe’s biggest oil company, has pulled out of the leading business group lobbying for curbs on US greenhouse gas emissions, a sign of fragmentation in the campaign for climate and energy legislation.

ConocoPhillips and Caterpillar of the US have also dropped out of USCAP, the group revealed on Tuesday. Royal Dutch Shell is now the only large oil company still a member.

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Shell stakes green future on sugar biofuel in $2bn Brazil venture

Peter Voser, Shell’s chief executive, has pledged to concentrate on developing biofuels and clean coal, as part of the company’s attempt to reduce its carbon dioxide emissions.

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