By John Donovan
Printed below is a transcript of a self-explanatory exchange at the Shell AGM this morning involving Desmond Kane representing whistleblower company OSSL and Jorma Ollila (Chairman) and Ben van Beurden (CEO) representing Royal Dutch Shell Plc.
Note that Ben van Beurden repeatedly stresses that there is no evidence to support the allegations OSSL is “fond of making.”
What he does not say is that the alleged events never happened.
And what about the evidence of the OSSL invoice to Shell? Is Shell saying that the OSSL invoice is a fake? If so, Shell should call in the police. It would be their duty to do so.
ROYAL DUTCH SHELL AGM 20 MAY 2014 (11.15 UK TIME APPROX)
Unofficial Transcript of exchange between Desmond Kane speaking for OSSL and Jorma Ollila and Ben van Beurden speaking for Shell.
Mr Kane introduced himself and said that although he is Scottish there should be no need for a translator (comment prompted some laughter)
5 years ago this week I was summoned with my colleague who is also in the room to a meeting with the CEO of Shell E&P Ireland at Leeson Street in Dublin. The gentleman informed us that there was grave concern with some of the instructions that were being given to our company by Shell to carry out work for certain people in that area. He said it was a Shell problem and Shell would sort it out. Could we give him two weeks… that was 250 weeks ago… The problem has not been resolved. I addressed this meeting last year and Mr Voser sent a special envoy to meet with me in Dublin… A Scottish gentleman who listened intently to all we had to say… shook his head in shame at what he learned… said that more proof would be preferable… We informed that we can only give him proof by getting in a car and going visiting what we were stating had happened… He said that would be not necessary because it would only bring alarm to the police force involved and the local people involved and that he would make his report based on what he had heard. In the xxxxx meeting he took no notes… he wrote to me a fortnight later and said goodbye we don’t know what you are talking about…
Can we have a meeting with someone who can put this situation right or at very least give us a fair hearing to clear up this matter…
Thank you for your question and I think we have Ben to respond to this very very detailed situation was has already been in last years meeting in a similar way
Ben van Beurden
Thank you very much I am indeed aware of this particular dialogue and I am also aware of another comment that Mr Voser made in that same meeting by the way. I think the matter that you are referring to has been investigated time and time again… had been the subject of an independent investigation inside our company and indeed there is no evidence, no proof… nothing whatsoever to substantiate the allegations that have been made out there.. I am perfectly happy to again have a discussion with you outside but you understand what it is that you can bring to this… but if there is no evidence… no evidence whatsoever, I am not entirely sure what it is we need to do. I know we have been in a commercial dispute for a long time and that commercial dispute has been settled… I suggest we leave that to one side but if there needs to be a further dialogue wherever that dialogue needs to be I think we will have that but I would also ask you to come forward with evidence of the allegations you are so fond of making
There is ample evidence in if we put the effort in with you with someone who is willing to listen they will see the evidence and will understand more fully what happened
Understood, okay, I think we have taken your message we’ll look into it… I’ll have a discussion with Ben
If I can get confirmation of the date of a meeting
I will have a discussion with Ben on how we can proceed here
Thank you very much
In a way that brings this to a happy conclusion so we will not have the same discussion for a third time next year